Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Jackalope89 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:02 am

Artorias wrote:I agree with the sentiment that is being expressed by many that Full Power Broly getting stomped is weird and disappointing, but at the same time....does anyone else feel like this is really meta? 99% chance it's not actually self-aware Toei, but this is the only thing about Broly that was brought over from the old films. And this big, dumb, iconic form that defined the character and represented everything wrong with him for decades just getting pooped on immediately strikes me as hilariously self-aware and the ultimate meta commentary.
Considering, from the promos, its Broly's first ever actual fight against sapient people, I'd say he did pretty well. Pushing Goku and Vegeta to not only fuse with metamoran dance, but go blue and keep pushing his power higher and higher....

One can only wonder how far Broly can go if he had half the training Goku and Vegeta have had.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:02 am

YamiGoku wrote:New Music Video

For a second i thought they would show the whole movie.
The Song is slowly growing on me, the movie looks absolutely Stunning!
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by JazzMazz » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:18 am

Artorias wrote:I agree with the sentiment that is being expressed by many that Full Power Broly getting stomped is weird and disappointing, but at the same time....does anyone else feel like this is really meta? 99% chance it's not actually self-aware Toei, but this is the only thing about Broly that was brought over from the old films. And this big, dumb, iconic form that defined the character and represented everything wrong with him for decades just getting pooped on immediately strikes me as hilariously self-aware and the ultimate meta commentary.
I think this is something that's more related to Toriyama ,since his the one who came up with the scenario and engaged with how the scenario would play out...

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by PFM18 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:20 am

Artorias wrote:
zarmack wrote:
Artorias wrote:I agree with the sentiment that is being expressed by many that Full Power Broly getting stomped is weird and disappointing, but at the same time....does anyone else feel like this is really meta? 99% chance it's not actually self-aware Toei, but this is the only thing about Broly that was brought over from the old films. And this big, dumb, iconic form that defined the character and represented everything wrong with him for decades just getting pooped on immediately strikes me as hilariously self-aware and the ultimate meta commentary.
It doesn't work as intended meta commentary. Because if it was, they would have reused the personality traits and storyline of the old Z-Broly for the film to (in)directly call out and mock it, instead of just having him get beat up in is most famous form.
I know its almost guaranteed not actually meta, I just found it poetically funny that the one major thing from the old films gets promptly stomped out.
It is still stupidly, insanely strong. A SSB fusion being needed to take you down is an honor in and of itself IMO. So in a way he isn't portrayed as weak but it kind of is at the same time.

But it is nice to see a fusion actually get something done in "canon" for once since ever.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:47 am

Other than preferring they'd have had a close fight, I'd take this scenario if maybe we had Goku, Vegeta, and Freeza vs LSSJ Broly. At least then we coulda gotten to make the iconic form look cool before being demolished by Gogeta.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by goku the krump dancer » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:02 am

I'm not fully absorbed into the spoilers... I only know of a few things but I like Blue Gogeta moping Broly, its great redemption after Vegetto got made to look like a chump in the Super Anime and the Heroes Shit-Fest. Goku/Vegeta fusions should always be OP especially when it's at its maximum or close to it.

Edit: Blizzard has grown on me even MORE since my last post lol :mrgreen: It didnt sound very Dragon Ball at all when I first heard and it still doesnt in the grand scheme of things but it does fit the tone of the movie upbeat yet dramatic in a good way.
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Post by MCDaveG » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:53 am

Modern Japanese Dance music is usually pretty bad... and I really don't like music by Flow.
I must say, that for the first time, Blizzard is actually catchy and good pop song.
Finally, after these years, I like something that is not by Kageyama :)
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Post by Draconic » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:13 am

I really didn't know what to say about this new song... But damn if this music video didn't sell me on it.
Check out the videos below, made by yours truly!

Goku vs Beerus BOG/Super mash-up https://gofile.io/d/kKKnMe

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Lukmendes » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:54 am

zarmack wrote:Full Powered Broly getting completely thrashed by Gogeta Blue is really underwhelming and completely devalues Broly as a threat. It would be much better if it was a near-even all-out fight, with Gogeta Blue getting the upper hand towards the end. Something like SSJ1 Goku vs 100% Freeza or MUI Goku vs Awakened Jiren.
I get the feeling that if an anime adaptation happens, Broly will get some buffs, holding his own against Gogeta better, and maybe Gogeta will go Beyond Blue Kaioken to win, or some bullshit like that lol.

Either way, as others pointed out, fact that he had to push a fusion that far is still enough of a feat and puts him up there, so he doesn't look that bad.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:08 am My man, all Goku had to do was go SSJ3 and shock Vegeta so much the M on his head would have turned into an L and Buu would have never happened.

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Post by MKCSTEALTH » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:14 am

I'm honestly okay with Broly not lasting so long in his FPSSJ or "Berserk" or "LSSJ" form against Gogeta. This new Broly is no longer just a hulking, green haired mess of rage and yelling Kakarot. He's more than his iconic form.


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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:57 am

MKCSTEALTH wrote:I'm honestly okay with Broly not lasting so long in his FPSSJ or "Berserk" or "LSSJ" form against Gogeta. This new Broly is no longer just a hulking, green haired mess of rage and yelling Kakarot. He's more than his iconic form.
I'm happy that they made Broly a more human, grounded and somewhat more relatable character. It adds a greater nuance to the usage of his hulking SSJ form beyond being mad a Goku, and makes it more of an emotionally based form that erupted from his darkest personal hour relating to the wellbeing of his personal kin.

I dig that.

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Post by MKCSTEALTH » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:03 pm

This might have been something that was previously addressed, if so I missed it. But do Broly and Paragus have their tails in the present day? If not, is that addressed at all during the movie?

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Post by Mister_Popo » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:10 pm

Lukmendes wrote:
zarmack wrote:Full Powered Broly getting completely thrashed by Gogeta Blue is really underwhelming and completely devalues Broly as a threat. It would be much better if it was a near-even all-out fight, with Gogeta Blue getting the upper hand towards the end. Something like SSJ1 Goku vs 100% Freeza or MUI Goku vs Awakened Jiren.
I get the feeling that if an anime adaptation happens, Broly will get some buffs, holding his own against Gogeta better, and maybe Gogeta will go Beyond Blue Kaioken to win, or some bullshit like that lol.

Either way, as others pointed out, fact that he had to push a fusion that far is still enough of a feat and puts him up there, so he doesn't look that bad.

I really hope they keep the action scenes from the movie embedded in the anime adaptation, otherwise it can only feel underwhelming.

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Post by dbgtFO » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:24 pm

MKCSTEALTH wrote:This might have been something that was previously addressed, if so I missed it. But do Broly and Paragus have their tails in the present day? If not, is that addressed at all during the movie?
Broly doesn't because Paragus cut it off, as to prevent him transforming into Ozaru and going out of control.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:12 pm

The animation looks gorgeous and the song was dope but still can’t bring myself to care about this movie.

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Post by Miracles » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:24 pm

MKCSTEALTH wrote:I'm honestly okay with Broly not lasting so long in his FPSSJ or "Berserk" or "LSSJ" form against Gogeta. This new Broly is no longer just a hulking, green haired mess of rage and yelling Kakarot. He's more than his iconic form.
The classic Broly embraced being evil. While this Broly seems to be a victim. According to the spoilers but I take everyone of them with a grain of salt.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Lord Frieza » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:11 pm

Miracles wrote:
MKCSTEALTH wrote:I'm honestly okay with Broly not lasting so long in his FPSSJ or "Berserk" or "LSSJ" form against Gogeta. This new Broly is no longer just a hulking, green haired mess of rage and yelling Kakarot. He's more than his iconic form.
The classic Broly embraced being evil. While this Broly seems to be a victim. According to the spoilers but I take everyone of them with a grain of salt.
In a way every saiyan Goku has met from his universe has been in contrast to his character.

Raditz, Nappa, Bardock and Turles were all stereotypical saiyans, showing what Goku would have been like if raised among his own kind in the original continuity.

Vegeta is also this, in the elite sense, but unlike the others has the same drive to be get stronger, but it originally came from his dark pride and sense of entitlement. A dark reflection of Goku along with the other symbolism one could attribute to him.

Classic Broly is the ebodyment of the Super Saiyan Legend, not saiyans a a whole, a rampaging beast who lives to destroy. A strong contrast to the focused, righteous fury of Super Saiyan Goku on namek.

Goku Black is a very different play the idea of "Evil Goku", partly because he's not. Yet Goku's body and Zamasu's obsession with him makes for a very intreasting dynamic. It also shows what could Goku's power accomplish in the hands of a truly evil being.

Shin Broly, as I call him, carries the raw destructive fury of the LSS of his original counterpart but his new upbringing brings another lay that can also be contrasted to Goku. What if Goku was good but raised in a bad environment, purity corrupted by the evil of others.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:38 am

They should have just revealed Gogeta in the third and final trailer. That being said...

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!! THAT LOOKS SO AWESOME!!!

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