Could Cell Absorb Super 17?

Nikkolas · Post by **Nikkolas** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:19 am

What would happen if Cell attempted to absorb the fused Android 17s from DBGT?
Would it simply not work? I know S17 is way stronger but not taking that into account and just thinking of the..."mechanics" of it all if you will, would it be possible?

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:38 am

Nikkolas wrote:What would happen if Cell attempted to absorb the fused Android 17s from DBGT?
Would it simply not work? I know S17 is way stronger but not taking that into account and just thinking of the..."mechanics" of it all if you will, would it be possible?

Why not? Anything can happen in GT.

Horgus · Post by **Horgus** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:17 am

I always thought that story arc in GT would have been a great deal more interesting had it involved Cell absorb Super 17 and rehash some of the old (and admittedly more interesting) drama with Gohan/Goku, while Frieza having somehow gained power in Hell, invades the living realm and fights a battle with Vegeta/Trunks/everyone else, raging through whole cities and mountains, urban centers being nuked and whole islands turned to ash.

Yes, I've thought about how GT should have been.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:53 am

Horgus wrote:I always thought that story arc in GT would have been a great deal more interesting had it involved Cell absorb Super 17 and rehash some of the old (and admittedly more interesting) drama with Gohan/Goku, while Freeza having somehow gained power in Hell, invades the living realm and fights a battle with Vegeta/Trunks/everyone else, raging through whole cities and mountains, urban centers being nuked and whole islands turned to ash.

Freeza matching Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta?

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:20 am

Rocketman wrote:Freeza matching Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta?

To be fair, they did have decades to train in Hell.

Although in the manga of DragonBall, they were all put through a cleansing process and reincarnated.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:48 am

Conan the SSJ wrote:To be fair, they did have decades to train in Hell.

And Vegeta's stronger than SSJ3 Kid Goku.

Nikkolas · Post by **Nikkolas** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:52 am

IMO, I never found Frieza "interesting." He's evil....what else is there to it?
S-17 was nice because of his relation to 18 and his internal struggle with the "good" 17 and all that kinda thing.

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:23 am

Nikkolas wrote:IMO, I never found Freeza "interesting." He's evil....what else is there to it?

Sometimes thats all you need. Frieza was ruler of most of the universe and the strongest being for a long time. He commited horrible attrocities all the while being a gentlemen. I don't need a backstory where King Cold never hugged him enough or Cooler pissed in his mouth as a child.

With all the stupid things that happened in GT. Kid Goku beating up Cell and Frieza easily is the most infuriating. He should have at least of been forced to turn super saiyan to deal with Cell.

Though with his saiyan dna, Cell should credibly of been able to increase his power to match Goku.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:28 am

Nikkolas wrote:IMO, I never found Freeza "interesting." He's evil....what else is there to it?
S-17 was nice because of his relation to 18 and his internal struggle with the "good" 17 and all that kinda thing.

...

Yes because Super 17 had so much more depth of character in the three or whatever episodes he was in GT, opposed to the thirty odd episodes Freeza featured in.

/sarcasm

Nikkolas · Post by **Nikkolas** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:17 am

Well..
Frieza's character:
1. Scared of Saiyans.
2. Sadistic.

....
Am I missing anything about his personality? Should I add in more cliche evil things like
3. Arrogant.
4. Power-hungry.
Etc.?

Far as I can tell, 17 has at least as much depth.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:54 am

Nikkolas wrote:Well..
Freeza's character:
1. Scared of Saiyans.
2. Sadistic.

....
Am I missing anything about his personality? Should I add in more cliche evil things like
3. Arrogant.
4. Power-hungry.
Etc.?

Far as I can tell, 17 has at least as much depth.

Freeza was a tyrant (How one dimensional of him), but it was his condescending yet polite demeanor that made him great fun to watch (Ryuusei Nakao did an amazing job) , seeing his air of civility crumble until it was a meaningless facade as Goku slowly humiliated him, he had an epic back story, he essentially subjugated and then destroyed an entire race rather than risk an uprising, yet still received his comeuppance in the end.

Freeza:

-A back story

-An actual personality

-Was a catalyst for events to come.

Super 17:

-A rehashed character from Z (who's claim to fame was killing his "creator" and was then absorbed by a monster from the future)

-Came out of nowhere, and for no reason in particular.

-Lasted like three episodes.

-Had long hair.

I can't see any other points to make in his favor, unless you're talking about the cliche "Inner struggle" that was tacked on the end as an afterthought.

FindKenshi · Post by **FindKenshi** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:59 am

Nikkolas wrote:IMO, I never found Freeza "interesting." He's evil....what else is there to it?

www.freewebs.com/freezahq/

Spend at least a half hour here. You'll change your mind about Freeza. I am certain.

Nikkolas · Post by **Nikkolas** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:55 am

I would like to discuss 17 vs. Frieza more but that's really not relevant here and I'm very curious as tow hat people think about Cell absorbing S-17 and if it's possible.

Neon Z · Post by **Neon Z** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:49 am

GT Cell apparently could even absorb Goku (though he ended up crawling through his tail), so he should be able to absorb Super 17...

Nikkolas · Post by **Nikkolas** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:19 am

But I don't mean like Perfect Cell.
I'm asking what if Semi-Imperferfect Cell got 18 first and then went to try and absorb Super 17.
Would it make him Perfect again? Could it work? He was designed to absorb those two and while Super 17 is technically the 17 he was made to absorb, he's also not the 17 he was made to absorb.
See what I'm getting at?

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:53 pm

Cell's system isn't designed to take in 2 #17's. I figure it would just end up screwing up his body rather than helping him in any way.

Kodoshin · Post by **Kodoshin** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:59 pm

Maybe if he absorbed Super 17 it would make him twice as ugly as he was in his second form (is that even possible?)

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:41 pm

His body was designed to only take in two androids, absorbing a third would just give him a power boost.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:12 pm

Is the Hell-17 organic at all? Cell can't absorb him if he's not.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:38 pm

Rocketman wrote:Is the Hell-17 organic at all? Cell can't absorb him if he's not.

Good point. No, he wasn't, it's implied Gero and Myuu built him from scratch in Hell. However, the original 17 was, as we all know, a cyborg.

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