How powerful could Piccolo have gotten?

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 · Post by **Super Saiyan Turlast x4** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:15 pm

We all know Piccolo was more powerful then every SSJ, Imperfect Cell, and was about equal with #17 when he merged Kami. Now, I was wondering; If Piccolo merged with Kami in the Saiyan Saga, how powerful would he be at that point? For his power to increase as much as it did during the Android saga, it would have to do the same in the earlier sagas. I think Piccolo could've been more powerful then SSJ Goku, or 100% Freeza if he merged with Kami after he left Kai's. During the Saiyan saga; Piccolo could've been more powerful then Freeza using half power.

Nail had said; Piccolo would likely be powerful enough to beat Freeza if he merged with Kami, but we don't really know? We also know that Guru was surprised that Piccolo was thrashed by a Saiyan. He believed that a "Super Saiyan" had to be the one to do such, eventhough he was likely referring to the Piccolo being at his "True Power". So, how powerful do you guys think Piccolo would've been?

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:20 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Nail had said; Piccolo would likely be powerful enough to beat Freeza if he merged with Kami, but we don't really know?

Remember that Nail had no clue at all as to how strong Freeza really was. Freeza scares the guy by mentioning that his battle power is 530000, and never brought up the fact that he could transform. How could Nail know the guy could become up to around 200 times stronger than that?

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 · Post by **Super Saiyan Turlast x4** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:25 pm

Nail probably was just talkin about Piccolo being able to beat that Freeza.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:06 am

Be it far from me to say there are any facts on the matter, but I think the fact Piccolo was so monstrously powerful after coming back together with Kami, has a lot to do with the fact his individual strength was within the realm of a Super Saiya'jin already.

So, if they'd done it against Nappa/Vegeta, maybe he'd be around 25,000? Transformed Vegeta would still ruin his shit.

finnishjuoppo · Post by **finnishjuoppo** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:23 am

I just have to ask did Piccolo fight in GT? If he did then I ask how good he was with his enemy(enemies)?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:47 am

finnishjuoppo wrote:I just have to ask did Piccolo fight in GT? If he did then I ask how good he was with his enemy(enemies)?

He survived a Kamehameha from Super Saiyan (2?) Gohan, I know that much.

finnishjuoppo · Post by **finnishjuoppo** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:25 pm

doesn't that make him somewhere near ssj2?

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:36 pm

finnishjuoppo wrote:doesn't that make him somewhere near ssj2?

In theory, it would. But GT's powers are so random it's really hard to tell. The fact that it was SSJ2 Gohan screws with things enough as it is.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:42 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:He survived a Kamehameha from Super Saiyan (2?) Gohan, I know that much.

If it was SSJ1 Gohan, that's not too far-fetched. Gohan was weaker in the Buu Saga than at the Cell Games, and another decade added on that wouldn't help (ignoring the effects of Mystic, since GT does). Piccolo could've survived a SSJ Kamehameha from Gohan even if he was the same as he was when he fought #17.

JohnnyBoy_Z · Post by **JohnnyBoy_Z** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:03 am

Couldn't Piccolo have merged with all of the other warrior Nameks if he wanted to? I don't remember hearing anything about their being a limit. If this is the case, then he could've been way more powerful than he was during the Buu ark.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:28 am

JohnnyBoy_Z wrote:Couldn't Piccolo have merged with all of the other warrior Nameks if he wanted to? I don't remember hearing anything about their being a limit. If this is the case, then he could've been way more powerful than he was during the Buu ark.

There weren't any more, where there? Anyways, it wouldn't be wise to deprive New Namek of its entire fighting force.

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:51 am

Rocketman wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:He survived a Kamehameha from Super Saiyan (2?) Gohan, I know that much.
If it was SSJ1 Gohan, that's not too far-fetched. Gohan was weaker in the Buu Saga than at the Cell Games, and another decade added on that wouldn't help (ignoring the effects of Mystic, since GT does). Piccolo could've survived a SSJ Kamehameha from Gohan even if he was the same as he was when he fought #17.

Gohan was also getting a boost from Bebi at the time.

JohnnyBoy_Z · Post by **JohnnyBoy_Z** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:25 am

Rocketman wrote:There weren't any more, where there?

True. But I was thinking about after the battle on Namek.

Anyways, it wouldn't be wise to deprive New Namek of its entire fighting force.

Also true. Stupid question. My bad. But I'm still curious as to how powerful he could've been if he had done so (out of desperation).

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:14 am

Also true. Stupid question. My bad. But I'm still curious as to how powerful he could've been if he had done so (out of desperation).

Depends, partly, on when he did it, I suppose. If all the warrior Nameks had still been left on Namek and he'd fused with all of them, not just Nail, he could have probably matched at least 50% Freeza.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:07 am

Xyex wrote:If all the warrior Nameks had still been left on Namek and he'd fused with all of them, not just Nail, he could have probably matched at least 50% Freeza.

I doubt that. Nail was exceptional at 42,000. The warrior Nameks weren't over 3000.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:36 am

They were all at about 3,000, sure, but Kami wasn't even in the thousands.

Seriously, though, there were probably at least fifty of them. And considering that 42k + maybe 5k = over 1 million. I would think that over 1 million + 3k (x50 (or even just x5) would equal quite a bit as well.

EDIT:

Just to further this, even though it's pure conjecture, I'm going to do some math. Assuming Piccolo was 5k and Nail was 42k if you do 5,000 x 42 x 5 you get 1,050,000.

So then, you get Piccolo at 1,050,000 fusing with a warrior Namek at 3,000. 1,050,000 x 3 x 5 = 15,750,000. And then again. 15,750,000 x 3 x 5 = 236,500,000 and yeah... we're stronger than Freeza.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:37 am

Merging with that many other Namekians would have screwed with his psyche something fierce.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:47 pm

Reading this made me wonder if it's worth mentioning that in Super Saiya Densetsu for the Snes, it's possible to have Piccolo fuse with Dende when fighting final form Freeza (I think it was final form, anyway... it might have been third form...). Despite that game powerlevels are never to be trusted... I think the increase was something like a million (and I think the game only went up to like 4 million for ssj type levels... which is probably what had me thinking of that as the Freeza fight ranges until coming here...

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finnishjuoppo · Post by **finnishjuoppo** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:58 pm

what kind was Piccolo after fusing with the great Dende?

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:05 pm

caejones wrote:Reading this made me wonder if it's worth mentioning that in Super Saiya Densetsu for the Snes, it's possible to have Piccolo fuse with Dende when fighting final form Freeza (I think it was final form, anyway... it might have been third form...). Despite that game powerlevels are never to be trusted... I think the increase was something like a million (and I think the game only went up to like 4 million for ssj type levels... which is probably what had me thinking of that as the Freeza fight ranges until coming here... ).

Wait, you can fuse with Dende?

Seriously?

I've played that game at least three dozen times and never knew that....

Kanzenshuu

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