"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Grimlock » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:50 am

BrolySSJL wrote:And for now, the actual arc is by far more interesting than the 2 tournaments.
Not actually a feat, sagas with an actual plot are better than tournaments by default.

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Post by Rakurai » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:17 am

Reminder: Toyotarou is teaming up with Toriyama on the story and getting a lot of praise as he's making it. Sounds like it's mainly Toyotarou's ideas coming to fruition, but we don't know how much input Toriyama has on the story/lore either.

https://twitter.com/herms98/status/1068740797263036416

Regardless, credit should be given to both but now we can assume Toyotarou taking a role in developing the story instead of adapting it.
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Post by PFM18 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:30 am

Doctor. wrote:I hope they buff Boo in this arc.
why?

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Post by Chuquita » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:06 pm

I'm happy it's something fresh (that is, not another tournament and not here's Freeza again) and because of that I don't have any major complaints so far.
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Post by IM21 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:18 pm

that train scene reminded me of the Han Solo movie.

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Post by RedHeat » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:20 pm

that heist scene game me Incredibles flashbacks.
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Post by HeroR » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:24 pm

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If you're just using Broly, he's classified as a 'mutant' according to King Vegeta. Which is what Freeza, King Cold, and the Ginyu Force were to their species. Mutant in Dragon Ball seems to be shorthand for a person who have abilities above their race, but also mentally unstable. Like Toriyama cites Freeza and King Cold being mutants as the reason why they're so evil along with their power.
Didn't know Broly was classified that way, that's a pretty interesting concept
This is all going by what King Vegeta said, but it's the closest explanation we got for his power in the movie.
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Post by GokuDragonBall » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:45 pm

Full chapter in Chinese has leaked.
https://dragonballsuper-france.fr/drago ... apitre-43/
The train part is definitively a highlight (could also be a Solo reference). I also found a small DB Broly reference. I got a feeling that Boo will have a major role at some point but I could be wrong. Nevertheless, it's always great to expand on the Galactic Patrol and its members.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:17 pm

PFM18 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:I hope they buff Boo in this arc.
why?
Why not? Having more characters be in the top tier is always welcome. Will be a breath of fresh air. It’s much better than the tired “Buu is gonna fight! Oh nope he fell asleep again.”

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Post by PFM18 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:36 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:I hope they buff Boo in this arc.
why?
Why not? Having more characters be in the top tier is always welcome. Will be a breath of fresh air. It’s much better than the tired “Buu is gonna fight! Oh nope he fell asleep again.”
Why not is because Boo is a boring character that weakens the story almost any time he is on-screen/panel. I loved that they came up with excuses to not have him involved, especially when they replaced him with Freeza who was absolutely magnificent in that arc.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:37 pm

All the latest chapter has done for me is want to see a Galactic Patrol spin-off.

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Post by BrolySSJL » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:57 pm

PFM18 wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
why?
Why not? Having more characters be in the top tier is always welcome. Will be a breath of fresh air. It’s much better than the tired “Buu is gonna fight! Oh nope he fell asleep again.”
Why not is because Boo is a boring character that weakens the story almost any time he is on-screen/panel. I loved that they came up with excuses to not have him involved, especially when they replaced him with Freeza who was absolutely magnificent in that arc.
Buu is not boring at all. One of the best characters of Toriyama.

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Post by Doctor. » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:21 pm

PFM18 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:I hope they buff Boo in this arc.
why?
He has the most interesting abilities out of the entire cast, has consistently some of the most entertaining fights in the series, has limitless potential for good character moments and world building due to his status in the lore and, unlike many characters that got strong for no reason, he has an excuse to get abnormally strong in a short amount of time due to his insanely high starting battle power and absorption gimmick.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:44 pm

Did we ever get any clarification on what this arc is? Manga only? Before or After Broly?

If it's Manga only I suspect they maybe waiting until summer and then for Manga and anime to retell Broly unless this arc isn't very long and Toyo starts Broly in a few months.

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Post by Doctor. » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:46 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Did we ever get any clarification on what this arc is? Manga only? Before or After Broly?

If it's Manga only I suspect they maybe waiting until summer and then for Manga and anime to retell Broly unless this arc isn't very long and Toyo starts Broly in a few months.
This is after Broly.

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Post by RedHeat » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:47 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Did we ever get any clarification on what this arc is? Manga only? Before or After Broly?

If it's Manga only I suspect they maybe waiting until summer and then for Manga and anime to retell Broly unless this arc isn't very long and Toyo starts Broly in a few months.
It's set after Broly, and so far it's manga-only unless they announce the return of the anime at Jump Festa in a few days.
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Post by PFM18 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:45 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Did we ever get any clarification on what this arc is? Manga only? Before or After Broly?

If it's Manga only I suspect they maybe waiting until summer and then for Manga and anime to retell Broly unless this arc isn't very long and Toyo starts Broly in a few months.
It's after Broly. The ToP ends, and they summarize the Broly arc and mention that Goku and Vegeta have gotten stronger and then jump right into this arc.
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Doctor. wrote:I hope they buff Boo in this arc.
why?
He has the most interesting abilities out of the entire cast, has consistently some of the most entertaining fights in the series, has limitless potential for good character moments and world building due to his status in the lore and, unlike many characters that got strong for no reason, he has an excuse to get abnormally strong in a short amount of time due to his insanely high starting battle power and absorption gimmick.
I guess I see your point, but I've already talked ad ad nauseam about how boring of a character I find Boo to be. I've also mentioned this several times, but I think Future Trunks is the only one that really got strong for a reason that isn't especially believable.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:54 pm

PFM18 wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
why?
Why not? Having more characters be in the top tier is always welcome. Will be a breath of fresh air. It’s much better than the tired “Buu is gonna fight! Oh nope he fell asleep again.”
Why not is because Boo is a boring character that weakens the story almost any time he is on-screen/panel. I loved that they came up with excuses to not have him involved, especially when they replaced him with Freeza who was absolutely magnificent in that arc.
I couldn’t disagree more. The excuse was bad enough once, but twice is just lazy writing.

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Post by PFM18 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:04 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:
Why not? Having more characters be in the top tier is always welcome. Will be a breath of fresh air. It’s much better than the tired “Buu is gonna fight! Oh nope he fell asleep again.”
Why not is because Boo is a boring character that weakens the story almost any time he is on-screen/panel. I loved that they came up with excuses to not have him involved, especially when they replaced him with Freeza who was absolutely magnificent in that arc.
I couldn’t disagree more. The excuse was bad enough once, but twice is just lazy writing.
I don't especially care what the excuse is, it's enough for me that an explanation was given at all, because I simply don't care for Boo and would prefer they come up with any reason not to involve him. He should be limited to cute little gag scenes with Satan and not actually given anything close to a leading role. I think his involvement in Super so far has been absolutely perfect. He doesn't do much so he can't annoy the viewer/reader too much, and he was given the one fight against Basil where he won after he got pissed about Satan being collateral damage.


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