Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[Tai Lung]

Although it sounds controversial, I will say that the current bardock is the same as the previous one in essence

because we're going all that mattered in the "movie of bardock" was his rebellion against Frieza and his solitary struggle in space and that Badass moment remained

and the worst of movie it was eliminated like the useless psychic powers or sending babys to planets where they would die of hunger

[Cetra]

So is this the first time in Dragon ball history that Goku refers to himself has kakarot? End of the Broly movie he refers to himself as Kakarot! That's kinda a big deal.Like, WTF kinda big!

Can anyone think of another time? I can't recall.

He did the same thing in the original Broly except he said Broly should not call him that which is kinda ironic.

[Rakurai]

Although it sounds controversial, I will say that the current bardock is the same as the previous one in essence

because we're going all that mattered in the "movie of bardock" was his rebellion against Frieza and his solitary struggle in space and that Badass moment remained

and the worst of movie it was eliminated like the useless psychic powers or sending babys to planets where they would die of hunger

OG Bardock was more than just his rebellion and solitary struggle.

He was your quintessential low-class warrior who didn't give any fucks about family yet formed a close bond with his comrades. He was someone who tried to rally his people up in arms against Frieza, but when they scorned and laughed at him he simply told them to die and go to hell. He was someone who knew how his son was going to grow up, but in the end only cared about Frieza getting his just desserts. A true avenger. His nature and behavior as a Saiyan was so predictable, so ordinary, yet that is exactly what made him so interesting and endearing, coupled with the fact that Goku fell so far from the tree, or his own species as represented by Bardock.

New Bardock has none of that characterization. Minus is a poor retelling of Goku's history, introducing Gine who's even less interesting and take away the traits that made OG Bardock so well-liked in the first place.

[Rakurai]

So basically you just want them to be some one dimensional evil for the sake of it type character who enjoys terrorizing everything in his path with his evil smile on like the rest of the DB villains?

That's fine, but not everyone is you so you should understand why people would want something better, less bland and overused.

Taking an existing popular character and stripping him of what made his character terrifying yet so popular in the first place is not the way to provide something better.

Unnecessary tweaks to personalities and designs and calling them "canon" doesn't make characters better by default.

[Amir]

So basically you just want them to be some one dimensional evil for the sake of it type character who enjoys terrorizing everything in his path with his evil smile on like the rest of the DB villains?

That's fine, but not everyone is you so you should understand why people would want something better, less bland and overused.

Taking an existing popular character and stripping him of what made his character terrifying yet so popular in the first place is not the way to provide something better.

Unnecessary tweaks to personalities and designs and calling them "canon" doesn't make characters better by default.

And what makes you think that's the reason I think new Broly is better?

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

I'm still in hiding right now to avoid any and all spoilers and haven't read anything here. But I just wanted my Melbournian mates on this website to know that the movie will be screening in IMAX at the Melbourne Museum for a week. That means you will be able to watch the film on the current biggest screen in the world. Tickets are available to purchase now. I've sure as hell bought my tickets.

Alright, back to hiding. I'll make sure to return once I've seen the film.

[TheRed259]

English dub of trailer 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8_JWmFiIPs

[IM21]

English dub of trailer 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8_JWmFiIPs

did a fan edit this?... or maybe not a fan, cause even a fan would do a better job.

[Rakurai]

And what makes you think that's the reason I think new Broly is better?

Based on the implications of your response? If you have reasoning to provide, then I would be glad to hear it.

[Rakurai]

He did the same thing in the original Broly except he said Broly should not call him that which is kinda ironic.

I'm surprised more people haven't noticed this twist of irony between the two films. I thought I was the only one.

He also said the same thing against Raditz. But that was all in the beginning so there was a lot to take in and deny at first.

[Lukmendes]

English dub of trailer 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8_JWmFiIPs

Honestly, something's off about this trailer...

[HeartMachine3578]

English dub of trailer 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8_JWmFiIPs

Honestly, something's off about this trailer...

Yeah its really weird sounding

[Gafonso6]

English dub of trailer 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8_JWmFiIPs

Honestly, something's off about this trailer...

Having seen the movie and knowing the lines that go with those clips, it's clear they didn't dub the trailer but instead used the lines from the movie and not the ones from the trailer. That's what makes it seem off, the different lines are messing up the timing of the trailer.

[GokuDragonBall]

So is this the first time in Dragon ball history that Goku refers to himself has kakarot? End of the Broly movie he refers to himself as Kakarot! That's kinda a big deal.Like, WTF kinda big!

Can anyone think of another time? I can't recall.

Could be if he introduces himself as Kakarot from now on rather than it happening once every 5 years or so.

[Tai Lung]

Although it sounds controversial, I will say that the current bardock is the same as the previous one in essence

because we're going all that mattered in the "movie of bardock" was his rebellion against Frieza and his solitary struggle in space and that Badass moment remained

and the worst of movie it was eliminated like the useless psychic powers or sending babys to planets where they would die of hunger

OG Bardock was more than just his rebellion and solitary struggle.

He was your quintessential low-class warrior who didn't give any fucks about family yet formed a close bond with his comrades. He was someone who tried to rally his people up in arms against Frieza, but when they scorned and laughed at him he simply told them to die and go to hell. He was someone who knew how his son was going to grow up, but in the end only cared about Frieza getting his just desserts. A true avenger. His nature and behavior as a Saiyan was so predictable, so ordinary, yet that is exactly what made him so interesting and endearing, coupled with the fact that Goku fell so far from the tree, or his own species as represented by Bardock.

New Bardock has none of that characterization. Minus is a poor retelling of Goku's history, introducing Gine who's even less interesting and take away the traits that made OG Bardock so well-liked in the first place.

-He remains a low class warrior
-the first thing does not make sense to me, bardock appreciated his companions but not by his family and in the end he fought to protect a lot of cretins (even if it was more for revenge).
-demonstrates that most Saiyans are idiots and it is impossible to feel empathy for them and their final destination except perhaps for bardock that again now in the current film that tragedy can really be felt this time because not all were evil giving more "relevance" to fight for his family and colleagues he wants to protect.
- Foolish psychic powers
-Bardock is the "exception" to the rule of his race and out of the typical that most saiyans in the saiyan saga which makes his behavior more logical but retaining the best aspects of his race as your courage.
- The "avenger" thing. I can give you but that's because Bardock did not lose anyone close before his fight in the current movie but there was still the fact that he had been betrayed by frieza...

I like the movie of bardock and I did not like minus.
but for me at least the movie current kept what was great in the first movie with the representation of bardock with the scenes shown I do not need more

[Mister_Popo]

I think the senzu bean-reference is to make the scene when Broly goes 'Ikari' look even more dramatic.
Like 'how the hell are we ever gonna beat this guy?'

I mean, it could just show that he thought he was going to get beaten up or that the fight may get tough from here on out?

Doesn't necessarily mean he thought he was going to lose...

Exactly. TheRed259 is overreading and overreacting to the scene. Vegeta simply saw that Broly is rapidly growing in power and would likely need a senzu bean when its over. He didn't actually give up against Broly.

The suggestion however emphasizes how strong Broly grows when he goes Ikari and enhances the drama of the transformation.
Maye they weren't thinking yet about losing, but they began to realize it was going to be a very tough fight and no a walk in the park whatsoever.
When they had known they were to face that kind of adversary, they probably would have taken senzus with them.

[Hulk10]

I couldn't really see Broly increasing in overall size in the movie. Though there were times he got more muscular but not taller.

[Rakurai]

OG Bardock was more than just his rebellion and solitary struggle.

He was your quintessential low-class warrior who didn't give any fucks about family yet formed a close bond with his comrades. He was someone who tried to rally his people up in arms against Frieza, but when they scorned and laughed at him he simply told them to die and go to hell. He was someone who knew how his son was going to grow up, but in the end only cared about Frieza getting his just desserts. A true avenger. His nature and behavior as a Saiyan was so predictable, so ordinary, yet that is exactly what made him so interesting and endearing, coupled with the fact that Goku fell so far from the tree, or his own species as represented by Bardock.

New Bardock has none of that characterization. Minus is a poor retelling of Goku's history, introducing Gine who's even less interesting and take away the traits that made OG Bardock so well-liked in the first place.

-He remains a low class warrior
-the first thing does not make sense to me, bardock appreciated his companions but not by his family and in the end he fought to protect a lot of cretins (even if it was more for revenge).
-demonstrates that most Saiyans are idiots and it is impossible to feel empathy for them and their final destination except perhaps for bardock that again now in the current film that tragedy can really be felt this time because not all were evil giving more "relevance" to fight for his family and colleagues he wants to protect.
- Foolish psychic powers
-Bardock is the "exception" to the rule of his race and out of the typical that most saiyans in the saiyan saga which makes his behavior more logical but retaining the best aspects of his race as your courage.
- The "avenger" thing. I can give you but that's because Bardock did not lose anyone close before his fight in the current movie but there was still the fact that he had been betrayed by frieza...

I like the movie of bardock and I did not like minus.
but for me at least the movie current kept what was great in the first movie with the representation of bardock with the scenes shown I do not need more

I'm not sure you understand my point.

Minus/DBS Broly Bardock and Toei DBZ Bardock are two different characters sharing the same name and similar design. This is clear from their portrayal going from the TV special to Minus/Broly film.

Bardock made it clear that his role against Frieza was so that he could change the future he saw with his psychic powers. His comrades slaughtered by Frieza's henchmen, and he himself almost left for dead. The power to change the future on his own, even if it's against all odds. That's the tragedy that befell him. That's the key context that Minus and the Broly film lacks. That Bardock just had a bad feeling and tried to fight back. He had no tragedy to begin with.

If all you really ever cared about regarding Bardock's character was his last ditch attempt against Frieza, then I think your liking of him was very shallow to begin with and missed the entire point of his character in the TV special.

[Cold Skin]

Ah, good news for us fans in France, this movie's being released in cinemas here too, as announced by Viz Media Europe on Twitter. And this time, it's being treated as a regular movie release, with the French dub being produced for it (as opposed to the two previous movies which had the French dub produced for the Blu-ray releases) and screenings in all cinemas around the country.

https://twitter.com/VIZMediaEurope/stat ... 7280591873

The twitter post reads:
Dragon Ball released in cinemas on a national scale for the first time in France!
@VizMediaEurope and @WildBunch are glad to announce the release of #DragonBallSuperBroly on March 13rd with both the original subtitled voices and the French dub!
For those who just can't wait that long, many pre-release screenings will be held early 2019.

However, they are wrong when saying the nation-wide cinema release is a first since it happened back in the 90s with a combo of movies 12 and 13 in cinemas all over France.
They most likely say that by opposition to Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F' which only had - at best - those very limited Paris screenings with original subtitled voices, and were not available in cinemas all over the country. Both movies were later released as Blu-rays with a French dub, but were not released to cinemas in the whole country prior to that.

Therefore, Broly is such an eventful high-quality movie that it gets the right to have a full-fledged cinema release across the country with the French dub being made for it.

[Lord Frieza]

Got lucky, I managed to get tickets to a showing near me. There were nearly sold out and we're only getting one showing and I do mean one. One Day, One Time Slot, then gone. Right in the middle of the week as well.