Thats a shame that, in buu saga, base Vegeta was sure to win the tournament even if there were piccolo and #18 kek.
Are you saying that buu saga piccolo and #18 are < namec freezer?
Moreover, there ewe multiple evidencens that basecgoku, Vegeta and Gohan were > shin in buu saga, and as you might know shin >namecc freezer.
Shin was literally shocked by the strength showed by the 3 saiyans more at every fight inside babidi's ship, starting from Vegeta vs pocus, shin was surethey would have to go 4v1 to have a chance to beat him, but base Vegeta slaughtered him effortlessly. Moreover, babidi himself recognizes that goku, Gohan and Vegeta are superior to piccolo in base when they are inside the ship.proof of that is when pocus said "babidi sama told me to keep my guard up because you three are strong, but maybe you are only stupid" in chapter 450, meaning that , for babidi, piccolo and kibito were weaklings, but base goku, Gohan and Vegeta weren't.
1. You might want to do something about your spelling and grammar, because this post is barely legible.
2. Vegeta has a reputation for being an arrogant blowhard who overestimates himself and underestimates those around him. Why should we take his bragging as fact?
3. As Spopovich and Yamu previously established, Bobbidi's minions don't seem to have detectable ki. Vegeta was actually initially excited to fight Puipui, suggesting that he was expecting some kind of challenge from him. But when the fight starts and he sees how weak Pui-pui really is, he's visibly disappointed. Likewise. when Goku fights Yakon in the dark, Goku specifically says that he can track him by the feel of the air flow, not by his ki like you'd expect. So Shin doesn't actually have a frame of reference for how powerful their enemies are. However, due to past Boo related trauma and the infuriating cavalier attitude the Saiyans have, he expects the worst, and is then shocked when Goku and Vegeta defeat their opponents so easily.
4. In regards to Bobbidi and Dabra sensing that the Saiyans are stronger than Piccolo, it's important to remember that the good guys were suppressing their their ki in order to avoid detection.
The fact that the bad guys could smell them out anyways implies that they have other ways of detecting power besides the standard ki sensing skill the heroes use, probably some kind of magic foresight ability. So, the "marvelous energy" Bobbidi and Dabra sensed could've easily came from their tucked-away Super Saiyan forms, which would dwarf Piccolo's power. It's also worth noting that, despite knowing that the Saiyans possess "marvelous energy", Bobbidi and Dabra also thought that a low level punk like Pui Pui would be able to beat them and they needed a machine to accurately measure Goku's Super Saiyan power, indicating that their innate power sensing abilities aren't very precise.