"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[ironfist2020]

look what i found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVt81yaqv4s

i wish he used his broly voice on them

[DainIronfoot]

I'm so loving how Daman Mills is playing Frieza. His screams this episode were incredible, the dialogue was so Frieza like and scenes where the dialogue is sinister he adds that touch of deep evil into the voice making it sound so good.

Enjoyed the episode, for sure.

[AzuraRacon]

Mills has definitely captured that element that makes Ayers own frieza, Clarke's Cell, and Marsters' Zamasu so great
He's just fun to listen to

[DainIronfoot]

Mills has definitely captured that element that makes Ayers own frieza, Clarke's Cell, and Marsters' Zamasu so great
He's just fun to listen to

Right!? It was great. Lol, i saw on twitter someone posted a clip of the episode and praising it. Seems they used my specific words too when describing it haha.

Seriously though, Daman is really hitting the nail on the head so far. It's familiar but unique in its own way!

[ironfist2020]

Mills has definitely captured that element that makes Ayers own frieza, Clarke's Cell, and Marsters' Zamasu so great
He's just fun to listen to

Right!? It was great. Lol, i saw on twitter someone posted a clip of the episode and praising it. Seems they used my specific words too when describing it haha.

Seriously though, Daman is really hitting the nail on the head so far. It's familiar but unique in its own way!

hes better then ayers

[kidhero1000]

Oh yeah wait aren’t you the one that said the solid “evidence” of his innocence was just screenshots of him stroking his own ego and explaining how lovely he is? And heads up: Goku’s voice actor has been liking #KickVic tweets so... just food for thought!

[mecha3000]

Oh yeah wait aren’t you the one that said the solid “evidence” of his innocence was just screenshots of him stroking his own ego and explaining how lovely he is? And heads up: Goku’s voice actor has been liking #KickVic tweets so... just food for thought!

Sean Schemmel? What a douche move. I like the guy and even defend him from time to time, but I do admit he can kind of come off as a jerk sometimes. Still, sucks when you see a VA going against a fellow VA. I dunno, maybe Sean feels a certain way about Vic or maybe Sean feels like Vic doesn't represent the type of person he likes. I mean, Sean seems to be all about individualism and open-mindedness and maybe Vic being all about religion, but also having these allegations doesn't sit right with Sean because he believes they're not just allegations? Whatever the case, this whole #KickVic thing kinda sucks, but that's the world we live in now....

[SaintEvolution]

Oh yeah wait aren’t you the one that said the solid “evidence” of his innocence was just screenshots of him stroking his own ego and explaining how lovely he is? And heads up: Goku’s voice actor has been liking #KickVic tweets so... just food for thought!

Sean Schemmel? What a douche move. I like the guy and even defend him from time to time, but I do admit he can kind of come off as a jerk sometimes. Still, sucks when you see a VA going against a fellow VA. I dunno, maybe Sean feels a certain way about Vic or maybe Sean feels like Vic doesn't represent the type of person he likes. I mean, Sean seems to be all about individualism and open-mindedness and maybe Vic being all about religion, but also having these allegations doesn't sit right with Sean because he believes they're not just allegations? Whatever the case, this whole #KickVic thing kinda sucks, but that's the world we live in now....

Is Vic Mignogna being accused of sexual harassment or something like that?

[kidhero1000]

Spoiler:

Oh yeah wait aren’t you the one that said the solid “evidence” of his innocence was just screenshots of him stroking his own ego and explaining how lovely he is? And heads up: Goku’s voice actor has been liking #KickVic tweets so... just food for thought!

Sean Schemmel? What a douche move. I like the guy and even defend him from time to time, but I do admit he can kind of come off as a jerk sometimes. Still, sucks when you see a VA going against a fellow VA. I dunno, maybe Sean feels a certain way about Vic or maybe Sean feels like Vic doesn't represent the type of person he likes. I mean, Sean seems to be all about individualism and open-mindedness and maybe Vic being all about religion, but also having these allegations doesn't sit right with Sean because he believes they're not just allegations? Whatever the case, this whole #KickVic thing kinda sucks, but that's the world we live in now....

It's one of those where there is smoke there is fire situations, considering issues with Vic doing these things has been going on for years and been brought up before. So if a fellow VA is in agreement with these allegations, then it's very likely that he knows something. Now The film has is forever left with the stench of having scum like Vic being associated with it.

[NintendoBlaze53]

I just got back from seeing the movie! I haven't read the rest of the thread so apologies if I repeat anything. I'm not sure what the spoiler rules are around here so I've put everything in a spoiler tag for now.

Spoiler:

I thought the dub was pretty good. One detail that surprised me was the use of Battle Power over Power Levels, which was only not the case for one specific instance that felt like it was for old time's sake. This was the first DBZ/S movie that I've ever watched, so the structure was unique to me. Most western works will pepper in a few skirmishes before having a climax at the end. Broly on the other hand was more like "plotplotplotplotplotplotFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT", and I feel like this back-loading of all the combat worked against the movie's favour because the fight dragged on for a LONG time, to the point where the final third of it began to lose most of its meaning, impact and gravitas. A more traditional approach here would have helped a lot, because the final product feels like the main criticism thrown at The Simpsons Movie's story: it's an extended episode of the series, not a theatrical piece.

One thing I also didn't like was the lack of proper pacing in certain areas. The prologue is a section cited in the podcast episode, but honestly it was all over this movie. For example, when Frieza kills Paragus, not enough time is spent on Broly's emotional reaction. It's like they just wanted to skip that bit and move on to the awesome transformation instead, and it robs moments like these of their gravitas. Compare this to, say, Goku and Gohan going Super Saiyan 1/2, and there's more time spent on their reactions. It's something that affected Path to Power, and it's affected the Broly movie as well. Nobody would have complained if this movie was seven minutes longer so that we had more time to take in certain moments.

I also really didn't like the near-constant use of CG in the movie, because outside of characters, it made no effort to blend in with the traditionally animated stuff. I realize that CG is becoming increasingly common in anime these days, but that doesn't make it look any less disgusting when it is used, and used as a crutch for many action sequences. It was especially overzealous regarding Frieza-type ships and that big sequence with the green ball that blows up most of the ice environment late into the fight. I hate this stuff, and I'd take Yamamoto's modern art style over the use of CG any day.

I have to say, I really disagree with Vegetto and crew over the idea that it's confusing to have your villain be so sympathetic. I felt that it made the fight almost tragic; the fight doesn't need to happen at all if Paragus (and Vegeta) would just hang up their pride, and that Broly, due to his nature, can't control his fighting rage. As well, I think that the whole "hey shouldn't the fight be defused because of Paragus' death?" isn't an argument with any merit, because the film adequately provides a justification for it. Broly is fighting mindlessly and has lost sense of who or what he is, as Paragus points out. He can't help but continue the fight.

Fast scene cutting aside, I really liked the opening of the movie too. I've never been a hater of DB- but I've never read the work either, so being able to see Bardock and especially Gine (whose name is apparently not pronounced "Geen") was a real treat to see depicted on screen. Gine is now up there with Bulma, Caulifla, Videl an Android 18 as my favourite females in the franchise. It was nice to see some more of how the Saiyans lived on their homeworld too, with an interesting contrast between King Vegeta (the third's) palace and the slums where Bardock and Gine lived. Also neat to see the very opening scene with Frieza and King Cold: it actually gives a very plausible explanation behind why, in the Namek arc, we never saw King Cold in the first place (he retired!). And I liked the little hint towards the original Bardock special too with him firing a beam against Frieza's death ball. It wasn't exactly "fighting hordes of Frieza's men like the opening to DBZ Kai", but it was a great nod that shows he didn't go down slouching, and they even recreated his final shot in the special!

I also really liked Cheelai. I was worried that she and Lemo would only be bit-parts, so it was a wonderful surprise to see that they were actually very important and regular characters to the story. I can see them making return appearances with Broly in the future, which would be great. My favourite scene of the entire movie in fact was the scene with the two of them showing Broly water and Broly explaining where his green rag comes from. It was a great character moment and really helped deepen Broly's character and humanize him, making him relatable. I like this Broly a lot as a result of this specific scene.

The final scene of the movie was a fantastic surprise. In classic Goku fashion, Goku manages to befriend his most recent opponent, and it was so cool to see that he saw the good in Broly's heart and was nice to him. It's exactly what Broly needs as a person and I can see Goku being a firm friend of his in the future. I also audibly gasped when I saw the Capsule House, because (correct me if I'm wrong) it's the same model as the one used in the very second chapter of the manga. A very cool reference (speaking of which, not only was the duality between Bulma and Frieza hilarious, but Frieza's wish to be taller was a FANTASTIC callback to Commander Red's wish!).

I was however disappointed with the final "result" of this movie and the fight. Paragus dies, sure, but Frieza just blasts off saying he'll be back like it's an episode of GI Joe or Transformers. Broly is back on that awful rock planet, and no new special techniques were learned (unlike the last two films). With the exception of gaining Broly as an ally (and Goku gaining a great new motivation to continue training), the amount this film affects the overall ongoing story is incredibly minimal, which is the opposite of what Battle of Gods and (to a lesser extent) Resurrection F did.

In regard to you saying you feel the overall affect on the ongoing DB story this film gives is minimal, compared to BoG yes but I feel this film does more then Res F and in many ways even feels like a trilogy alongside the other two. Res F after all did have the conflict of "Goku and Vegeta would be so strong if they worked together" and this film proves that. BoG introduces the 12 universes, Angels, GoD and SSjGod. Res F sets up Goku and Vegeta working together, reinstalls Freeza into the modern day story, SSjBlue and Golden Form being debuted DB Super sets up for this film then with the ToP raising Goku's goals and bringing Freeza back to life and giving him a reason to be allowed to live since he saved U7. Res F was pretty small in affect since the only difference from the beginning to the end is the audience knowing about SSjBlue, a form they gained off screen, and Golden Freeza, since Freeza dies anyway. Only for that to be even more pointless when Super made him alive permanently.

[KBABZ]

In regard to you saying you feel the overall affect on the ongoing DB story this film gives is minimal, compared to BoG yes but I feel this film does more then Res F and in many ways even feels like a trilogy alongside the other two. Res F after all did have the conflict of "Goku and Vegeta would be so strong if they worked together" and this film proves that. BoG introduces the 12 universes, Angels, GoD and SSjGod. Res F sets up Goku and Vegeta working together, reinstalls Freeza into the modern day story, SSjBlue and Golden Form being debuted DB Super sets up for this film then with the ToP raising Goku's goals and bringing Freeza back to life and giving him a reason to be allowed to live since he saved U7. Res F was pretty small in affect since the only difference from the beginning to the end is the audience knowing about SSjBlue, a form they gained off screen, and Golden Freeza, since Freeza dies anyway. Only for that to be even more pointless when Super made him alive permanently.

True. I guess I was bummed that Frieza was allowed to fly away like nothing happened.

[Kinokima]

Spoiler:

Oh yeah wait aren’t you the one that said the solid “evidence” of his innocence was just screenshots of him stroking his own ego and explaining how lovely he is? And heads up: Goku’s voice actor has been liking #KickVic tweets so... just food for thought!

Sean Schemmel? What a douche move. I like the guy and even defend him from time to time, but I do admit he can kind of come off as a jerk sometimes. Still, sucks when you see a VA going against a fellow VA. I dunno, maybe Sean feels a certain way about Vic or maybe Sean feels like Vic doesn't represent the type of person he likes. I mean, Sean seems to be all about individualism and open-mindedness and maybe Vic being all about religion, but also having these allegations doesn't sit right with Sean because he believes they're not just allegations? Whatever the case, this whole #KickVic thing kinda sucks, but that's the world we live in now....

It's one of those where there is smoke there is fire situations, considering issues with Vic doing these things has been going on for years and been brought up before. So if a fellow VA is in agreement with these allegations, then it's very likely that he knows something. Now The film has is forever left with the stench of having scum like Vic being associated with it.

Exactly people act like the Vic allegations are new they are not. They have been going on for years. But all
these disconnected people are somehow lying about it.

Nothing will be done about it again I am sure!

[WittyUsername]

I don’t think it’s fair to jump to the conclusion that Vic Mignogna is “scum” based on mere allegations (unless you want to face a potential lawsuit I suppose), but it is a shame that something like this had to find its way into the Dragon Ball franchise. It does make me wonder if FUNimation will continue working with Mignogna in the future. A lot of people seem to assume that the reason FUNimation replaced Stephanie Nadolny was because of her DUI arrests, and while I kind of doubt that, if it is the case, the allegations against Mignogna should definitely give them pause.

[Kinokima]

I don’t think it’s fair to jump to the conclusion that Vic Mignogna is “scum” based on mere allegations (unless you want to face a potential lawsuit I suppose), but it is a shame that something like this had to find its way into the Dragon Ball franchise. It does make me wonder if FUNimation will continue working with Mignogna in the future. A lot of people seem to assume that the reason FUNimation replaced Stephanie Nadolny was because of her DUI arrests, and while I kind of doubt that, if it is the case, the allegations against Mignogna should definitely give them pause.

Funimation doesn’t seem to care. And it does them no credit. Vic has been in tons of anime not just Dragon Ball and keeps being cast because he is popular mainly from his role as Ed in FMA. That was definitely a major role.

And I am not jumping to conclusions. Again the allegations are not new but have been coming up for years by many people and ignored by the US anime industry. It’s very dishheartening actually.


If it was one allegation that suddenly popped up I may have given him the benefit of the doubt but it’s not. Also he has been banned from several cons.

Note I am not saying anything is 100% true (because unless you were there you have no way of being 100% sure) but when this many allegations come forward over the years you usually have to start questioning. And the fact that most of the denial comes from people saying well he was nice to me at a con so he couldn’t possibly. That’s not how it works!

[nato25]

I've seen Vic twice at cons in Australia and he always had the most passionate fans and he really seemed to enjoy that and participate with his own enthusiasm. Hard for me to say he's a bad person from what I've seen but who knows. I hope any allegations aren't true and that people reserve judgement until something is, if we start disliking people based on rumours and allegations we start heading down a very slippery slope.

[PremiumSalt]

Oh yeah wait aren’t you the one that said the solid “evidence” of his innocence was just screenshots of him stroking his own ego and explaining how lovely he is? And heads up: Goku’s voice actor has been liking #KickVic tweets so... just food for thought!

Sean Schemmel? What a douche move. I like the guy and even defend him from time to time, but I do admit he can kind of come off as a jerk sometimes. Still, sucks when you see a VA going against a fellow VA. I dunno, maybe Sean feels a certain way about Vic or maybe Sean feels like Vic doesn't represent the type of person he likes. I mean, Sean seems to be all about individualism and open-mindedness and maybe Vic being all about religion, but also having these allegations doesn't sit right with Sean because he believes they're not just allegations? Whatever the case, this whole #KickVic thing kinda sucks, but that's the world we live in now....

This is just example #503 of "Sean Schemmel is an unprofessional dickbag". Seriously, he's starting to really piss me off at this point.

[ironfist2020]

Oh yeah wait aren’t you the one that said the solid “evidence” of his innocence was just screenshots of him stroking his own ego and explaining how lovely he is? And heads up: Goku’s voice actor has been liking #KickVic tweets so... just food for thought!

Sean Schemmel? What a douche move. I like the guy and even defend him from time to time, but I do admit he can kind of come off as a jerk sometimes. Still, sucks when you see a VA going against a fellow VA. I dunno, maybe Sean feels a certain way about Vic or maybe Sean feels like Vic doesn't represent the type of person he likes. I mean, Sean seems to be all about individualism and open-mindedness and maybe Vic being all about religion, but also having these allegations doesn't sit right with Sean because he believes they're not just allegations? Whatever the case, this whole #KickVic thing kinda sucks, but that's the world we live in now....

This is just example #503 of "Sean Schemmel is an unprofessional dickbag". Seriously, he's starting to really piss me off at this point.

maybe he knows things that you dont since he worked with him. dont judge him so fast. the world isnt black and white

[Shaddy]

If Mignogna actually did the creepy shit people have accused him of for all this time, he doesn't deserve respect from fans or fellow actors. Schemmel may very well know things we don't, and if it's true I would say it's completely justified.

[kidhero1000]

Jessie Pridemore
20 hrs ·

TW Sexual Assault

I've been seeing a lot going around about Vic Mignogna recently. I've kept quiet because I didn't want to ruin my career. I didn't want to not get invited to conventions. But I can't keep quiet about it anymore. I used to have the same opinion as everyone else. "Oh well he's always been nice to me." But after seeing his behavior evolve in front of me over the years and my own assault story, I can't keep it to myself anymore.

About ten years ago, I was a bright eyed and bushy tailed cosplayer at the height of my cosplay career. I was really well known for being the official character model for several anime companies and worked a lot with voice actors for events. I was also a high up staffer at a convention I loved. I was also going through a divorce.

A voice actor (I'm not willing to name because I can't be alone when I do this. He's too powerful in the community) that I really admired and thought was cute was flirting with me. Used my divorce as an "in." Him and another man kept feeding me drinks. Despite another voice actor kicking him in the leg to stop, he kept going. He inviting me up to his room to see his "Japanese candy collection." I blacked out. I woke up half off his bed and undressed just from the waist down. I couldn't even see who's room I was in. I gathered my stuff and left horrified. After talking to a couple people, I pieced together what had happened that night. I was too young to understand what consent was in that situation and thought that he was truly interested in me. I'd give more details, but it would give his identity. So I went to the next convention he did. He spent the entire weekend treating me like garbage. When I finally opened up to my ex husband about what had happened, he told me I was raped. Even then I didn't want to admit it. Over the years, I found there was more girls that it happened to. He started telling people I was obsessed with him and just mad he didn't want to date me.

So the part about Vic. The guy who raped me told everyone at an anime company I regularly worked with that we had fucked and that I was a con slut. He also told Vic. I played nice with Vic a lot because of my position in the community. At this point though, I had seen him be really shitty to people and staffers and knew he wasn't a good person. I ran into him at a con and said hi. We started chatting for a little bit and a couple fans ran up. I went to walk away, but he grabbed my arm and wouldn't let me leave. At one point, one of the fans starts talking about a series that he's in. I said that I actually really liked his role in it, I didn't even realize it was him (making a comment on how all his roles usually sound the same). He turns to me and says, "Oh I know why you like that series." He then slides his hand up through my hair (which was long at the time) on the back of my hair and tugs hard while saying "Because of _______." I was stunned. My heart sank. A friend ran over (there were a lot of witnesses) and asked if she needed to take me away. I just didn't even know how to respond. And if that wasn't bad enough HE DID IT A SECOND TIME with the implication that if the other voice actor had "had" me, he could too. I RAN off in tears. Called a friend of mine in said anime company and told him that if Vic ever touched me again, I would kick him in the balls, I didn't care who I was working for.

I know this will probably tarnish me getting invited to cons. It's why I started moving away from working for anime companies. I've become really good at ignoring shitty people over the years. But it is long past time that this comes out to light. Maybe one day I'll be strong enough to name the other one.

https://www.facebook.com/jessie.pridemo ... 2278447159

Doubtless there are SOME abuse claims against that are false, #kickvic has more than enough claims to have me convinced most of those claims against have at least truth to them. Regardless of the fact the allegations have been going on against him long before the #Metoo stuff was even a thing. However, a forensic evidence, an arrest, and a jury trial is what will get others to really believe those claims.

[PremiumSalt]

Sean Schemmel? What a douche move. I like the guy and even defend him from time to time, but I do admit he can kind of come off as a jerk sometimes. Still, sucks when you see a VA going against a fellow VA. I dunno, maybe Sean feels a certain way about Vic or maybe Sean feels like Vic doesn't represent the type of person he likes. I mean, Sean seems to be all about individualism and open-mindedness and maybe Vic being all about religion, but also having these allegations doesn't sit right with Sean because he believes they're not just allegations? Whatever the case, this whole #KickVic thing kinda sucks, but that's the world we live in now....

This is just example #503 of "Sean Schemmel is an unprofessional dickbag". Seriously, he's starting to really piss me off at this point.

maybe he knows things that you dont since he worked with him. dont judge him so fast. the world isnt black and white

If he knew something we don't, and he cared so much about getting the truth out, he would have been making a stink about this for a while now, as opposed to just jumping on the bandwagon when the allegations start to heat up.