Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
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Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
With the spotlight shining on Vic Mignogna and, to a lesser extent, Todd Haberkorn, I thought it should be acknowledged that there is another Dragon Ball actor who has displayed some questionable behavior, that being James Marsters. For one, he supposedly started seeing his current wife while she was still a high school student. Apart from that, there’s this (https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/ok-we-hav ... achtenberg).
I posted about this on the Vic Mignogna thread, but I thought I might as well make a separate thread about it. I hope that’s okay.
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What I gathered from the article is that the author is somewhat overreacting to a song with a bit on the nose lyrics written about an underage girl. Is it creepy? A little, but not as much as he's making it out to be. If the song is all we have to go off of, then it barely has a leg to stand on.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
As I said, it’s not just the song. It’s also the fact that his wife was still going to high school when he started seeing her.gokaiblue wrote:What I gathered from the article is that the author is somewhat overreacting to a song with a bit on the nose lyrics written about an underage girl. Is it creepy? A little, but not as much as he's making it out to be. If the song is all we have to go off of, then it barely has a leg to stand on.
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Well, was ut consensual? If so, I'm not sure what exactly the problem is. If he started seeing her when she was 14 or 15, then it would be odd and creepy, but all you've provided was "still in highschool," which could range from 14 to 18.WittyUsername wrote:As I said, it’s not just the song. It’s also the fact that his wife was still going to high school when he started seeing her.gokaiblue wrote:What I gathered from the article is that the author is somewhat overreacting to a song with a bit on the nose lyrics written about an underage girl. Is it creepy? A little, but not as much as he's making it out to be. If the song is all we have to go off of, then it barely has a leg to stand on.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
In regards to his wife, didn't you mention in the other thread that she was 18 at the time? In which case, they're two consenting adults who are now married, with no signs of any abuse or anything like that... So, in terms of his situation with his current wife, unless there's some abuse, harassment, or anything else nasty going on behind closed doors, I'm not seeing anything wrong there...
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
I’m actually not even sure if she was 18. All that’s really known is that she was still in high school, and Marsters went to her high school graduation. In any case, a person in his or her 40s dating an 18 year old is creepy, and the fact that he wrote a love song about a 17 year old is even creepier.Robo4900 wrote:In regards to his wife, didn't you mention in the other thread that she was 18 at the time? In which case, they're two consenting adults who are now married, with no signs of any abuse or anything like that... So, in terms of his situation with his current wife, unless there's some abuse, harassment, or anything else nasty going on behind closed doors, I'm not seeing anything wrong there...
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
Yeah maybe writing song lyrics isn't his forte.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
It might be reqching to put James Marsters in the same class as Vic Mignogna and Todd Haberkorn. Yes, it is slightly creepy for a man in hs 40s to date an 18 year old, but as long as it was consensual, it's not really "assault."
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
I think there need to be more information because if he was flirting and what not with someone who is under 18, that's a little..even if she was ok with it. The song, I'm not sure? Was it a joke song or was he being serious? As far as, the age difference now or even waiting till she was 18 (and a reason why I hate 18 being the "legal age" of adulthood) I still think that's too young but yea, I wouldn't really label him as being like Vic.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
Found this in the article comment section
Still a weird song, but not as bad as you'd be lead to believe just reading the article.Perhaps you should check the rest of the lyrics to "Young Girl". It's basically the story of a guy who just found out the girl he was interested in is way younger than he thought and now any relationship is both inappropriate and out of the question.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
Isn't the age of consent 16 in some states (I'm not sure if it is in her home state but that may be the case), if the age of consent is 16 in her state and she was of legal age according to state law at the time the relationship started, as long as her parents were okay with the relationship, then I don't see any problem from a legal perspective, is it strange, yes but depending on the circumstances it might not be illegal.
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Hm, another 'controversy' around a song. Where have I seen that before.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
What would you say if it was a 40 year old woman dating an 18 year old guy? People tend to have a double standard when it comes to older/younger ages and genres.gokaiblue wrote:It might be reqching to put James Marsters in the same class as Vic Mignogna and Todd Haberkorn. Yes, it is slightly creepy for a man in hs 40s to date an 18 year old, but as long as it was consensual, it's not really "assault."
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I think the song was about Michelle Trachtenberg, the show was shot in California, and the age of consent is 18. I don't know when he wrote the song, but Michelle was still 17 when Buffy ended in 2003.superrayman3 wrote:Isn't the age of consent 16 in some states (I'm not sure if it is in her home state but that may be the case), if the age of consent is 16 in her state and she was of legal age according to state law at the time the relationship started, as long as her parents were okay with the relationship, then I don't see any problem from a legal perspective, is it strange, yes but depending on the circumstances it might not be illegal.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
Since when did this forum become a place to discuss sexual assault? This is a Dragonball Forum, and this has nothing to do with Dragonball.WittyUsername wrote:With the spotlight shining on Vic Mignogna and, to a lesser extent, Todd Haberkorn, I thought it should be acknowledged that there is another Dragon Ball actor who has displayed some questionable behavior, that being James Marsters. For one, he supposedly started seeing his current wife while she was still a high school student. Apart from that, there’s this (https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/ok-we-hav ... achtenberg).
I posted about this on the Vic Mignogna thread, but I thought I might as well make a separate thread about it. I hope that’s okay.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
James Marsters is an actor who’s prominently associated with Dragon Ball. Not only did he play Piccolo in the live action movie, but he’s also the voice of Zamasu. I wouldn’t have made this thread otherwise, but since there was already a thread about Vic Mignogna, I assumed this was worth bringing up.GreatJaiyaman wrote:Since when did this forum become a place to discuss sexual assault? This is a Dragonball Forum, and this has nothing to do with Dragonball.WittyUsername wrote:With the spotlight shining on Vic Mignogna and, to a lesser extent, Todd Haberkorn, I thought it should be acknowledged that there is another Dragon Ball actor who has displayed some questionable behavior, that being James Marsters. For one, he supposedly started seeing his current wife while she was still a high school student. Apart from that, there’s this (https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/ok-we-hav ... achtenberg).
I posted about this on the Vic Mignogna thread, but I thought I might as well make a separate thread about it. I hope that’s okay.
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Can we please just make one thread about all these scandals and keep it there? Its filling Kanzenshuu with negativity and stuff like that.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
Every other week some one brings up sexual misconduct with in dragon ball and now this. Sure let's let's go through every voice actor in dragon ball and dig up past scandals they've been involved in. Heck why stop with the American cast I'm sure the Japanese one isn't so squeaky clean either.
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My problem is, this doesn't even count as a scandal. At worst, it's something Marsters did that's a little odd. Dude didn't even DO anything, except start a consensual relationship with a legal adult less than half his age, and write a parody love song for a 17 year old; one saying "OMG; the girl I was into was way younger than I thought she was, and now I can't start a relationship".Bruma rabu wrote:Every other week some one brings up sexual misconduct with in dragon ball and now this. Sure let's let's go through every voice actor in dragon ball and dig up past scandals they've been involved in. Heck why stop with the American cast I'm sure the Japanese one isn't so squeaky clean either.
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Re: Should we address James Marsters’ sketchy behavior?
I just figured that it should be put out there that Mignogna and Haberkorn aren’t the only actors associated with FUNimation who have sketchy pasts. Marsters obviously hasn’t been accused of raping anyone, but in the post MeToo era, anyone who’s ever done anything questionable in the past is bound to have that light shining on them.Fionordequester wrote:My problem is, this doesn't even count as a scandal. At worst, it's something Marsters did that's a little odd. Dude didn't even DO anything, except start a consensual relationship with a legal adult less than half his age, and write a parody love song for a 17 year old; one saying "OMG; the girl I was into was way younger than I thought she was, and now I can't start a relationship".Bruma rabu wrote:Every other week some one brings up sexual misconduct with in dragon ball and now this. Sure let's let's go through every voice actor in dragon ball and dig up past scandals they've been involved in. Heck why stop with the American cast I'm sure the Japanese one isn't so squeaky clean either.
He has never hurt anyone; not once. Not at any time we know of, anyway.
If it means anything, I do think it’s odd that Marsters has attracted more controversy within the last week than someone like Jerry Seinfeld.