A brief timeline for making the End of Z clearer with all of Super's events

[Green_Goblin]

• Dragon Ball Z's Majin Buu Saga + Z Episode 288 ("He's Always Late"): All takes place in Age 774.
  "Dragon Ball: Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!" (Age 776)
  Battle of Gods [movie/arc] till Super's 16th episode: All happens in Age 778.
  Episode 17 to Resurrection 'F' [movie/arc] + the Champa Arc + the Copy-Vegeta mini-arc + the Zamasu Arc: All happens in Age 779.
  3 Months of Peace (filler) Arc + Tournament of Power Arc + Dragon Ball Super: Broly + the Galactic Patrol Prisoner Arc: All happens in Age 780.
  Peaceful World Saga (End of Z): Age 784.

As of now there are 4 more years in-universe for Goku meeting Uub at the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai.

Side note: I feel like the first 2 episodes of Dragon Ball Super (even though Beerus is shown awake) should be part of Age 774 as they refer to Kid Buu as something recent, and it seems off Vegeta will hold his promise to take Trunks to the amusement park for 4 years instead of doing it right after Buu was dealt with to celebrate life.

[Hugo Boss]

it seems off Vegeta will hold his promise to take Trunks to the amusement park for 4 years instead of doing it right after Buu was dealt with to celebrate life.

He put that at a hold because of the gap between him and Goku. Though, Trunks must have remembered him, so he couldn’t say no. Goku himself took a long while to fulfill his promise to Gohan about taking him to fish.

[Green_Goblin]

it seems off Vegeta will hold his promise to take Trunks to the amusement park for 4 years instead of doing it right after Buu was dealt with to celebrate life.

He put that at a hold because of the gap between him and Goku. Though, Trunks must have remembered him, so he couldn’t say no. Goku himself took a long while to fulfill his promise to Gohan about taking him to fish.

It also has to do with the fact Mr. Satan was JUST given the World Peace Prize which he gave to Goku by the first episode of Super. At the Cell occasion (which was basically him lying), he was honored by the residents of Orange Star City who renamed it after him to "Satan City" almost on the spot due to his "heroism", what would make the committee to hold off such a prize of 100 million Zenis for 4 years? It's less than renaming a city.

[Grimlock]

That is the case of the actual timeline. Still, we may have a problem for those who consider every time Shenlong was summoned. If anyone consider all his summonings since the beginning of the Universe 6 saga, that timeline gets problematic. That said, considering the context Shenlong was summoned, pretty sure it was a Toei thing, so we can pretty much ignore all of them.

[Green_Goblin]

That is the case of the actual timeline. Still, we may have a problem for those who consider every time Shenlong was summoned. If anyone consider all his summonings since the beginning of the Universe 6 saga, that timeline gets problematic. That said, considering the context Shenlong was summoned, pretty sure it was a Toei thing, so we can pretty much ignore all of them.

It seems as if Toei began writing Super AS IF it was taking place shortly after Kid Buu's defeat, possibly to squeeze the lemon to the max and insert more adventures/stories till the End of Z, but then in the middle of already processing it and perhaps already drawing the 2 first episodes, someone noted that Beerus should have been asleep for the last 39 years when in fact the destruction of Planet Vegeta was 35 years before the conclusion of the Majin Buu Saga and changed it back to take place in Age 778, like in the Battle of Gods movie, so it'll go hand in hand with that statement.

If they had the Beerus Arc taking place in Age 774/775 with Frieza being revived in the next year to come (775/776) and training for 3 to 4 years (and doing some real training like the Z-Fighters did, other than punching and shooting holes in Tagoma's body) till Age 779 to achieve his new heights in Resurrection 'F', then I'd be totally fine with his "new era" power boost.

[Bullza]

Well I'm the one that's wrote up most of the Timeline page here and should be right.

https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Timeline

Battle of Gods should be in Age 778 (specifically August).

Resurrection F, the Universe 6 Saga and the Future Trunks saga should be in Age 779.

Then the Tournament of Power, Broly and the Galactic Patrol Saga should be in Age 780.

The Xenoverse games give these dates and they are correct because Pan was supposed to be born in Age 779 and Bra in Age 780.

It's not really that consistent though because there was another wish made just before the Universe 6 Saga so that should be a year after Resurrection F but that doesn't add up anyway because Whis said in the Future Trunks saga that he'd only used his rewind ability recently when bringing back Earth.

At the start of the Battle of Gods Saga they implied it was months (was it six months?) after beating Buu and some things fit with that like Vegeta taking Trunks to the park and Mr. Satan getting the peace prize, Marron is still a little toddler as well. On the other hand Gohan who had only recently started high school in the Buu Saga has left school entirely now and got a job and Bee isn't a puppy anymore.

[nato25]

Well I'm the one that's wrote up most of the Timeline page here and should be right.

https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Timeline

Battle of Gods should be in Age 778 (specifically August).

Resurrection F, the Universe 6 Saga and the Future Trunks saga should be in Age 779.

Then the Tournament of Power, Broly and the Galactic Patrol Saga should be in Age 780.

The Xenoverse games give these dates and they are correct because Pan was supposed to be born in Age 779 and Bra in Age 780.

It's not really that consistent though because there was another wish made just before the Universe 6 Saga so that should be a year after Resurrection F but that doesn't add up anyway because Whis said in the Future Trunks saga that he'd only used his rewind ability recently when bringing back Earth.

At the start of the Battle of Gods Saga they implied it was months (was it six months?) after beating Buu and some things fit with that like Vegeta taking Trunks to the park and Mr. Satan getting the peace prize, Marron is still a little toddler as well. On the other hand Gohan who had only recently started high school in the Buu Saga has left school entirely now and got a job and Bee isn't a puppy anymore.

I always thought it was months after buu's defeat, is that not the case?

Gohan leaving school and Bee not being a puppy aren't terrible inconsistencies, labradors grow extremely fast from puppy to a big size. Gohan is pretty smart, no reason he couldn't decide school was beneath him and just go and get a job.

[Bullza]

I always thought it was months after buu's defeat, is that not the case?

Officially no.

Battle of Gods because it took place on Bulma's birthday meant it was set in August Age 778.

Because Pan was still 4 years old in Age 784 she could not have been prior to May Age 779. That does fit as well because Videl was pregnant in Battle of Gods and 9 months after August is May.

It couldn't take place months after Buu's defeat because Pan would have been 9 years old.

[nato25]

Well that checks out.

Out of curiosity, how well does the Broly movie starting with 41 years earlier work, I'm sure there a ton of inconsistencies to worry about. I bet Whis popping out Bulla/Bra early gave them a bit of freedom to move the timeline around too haha.

[Green_Goblin]

Well I'm the one that's wrote up most of the Timeline page here and should be right.

https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Timeline

Battle of Gods should be in Age 778 (specifically August).

I don't want to get PR for that wiki here or in any of my topics, thanks in advance, it is full of mistakes and I bet you know it. The biggest recent one was their/your (if you're part of the admins there) to insist that Cranberry from the Moro Arc is Raspberry from the Namek Saga which was only fixed 2 days ago. The case for the Battle of Gods movie is known, since the Age 778 was published in official material regarding that movie, however in Super the staff seemed to have changed their mind over this timeline placement.

I always thought it was months after buu's defeat, is that not the case?

Officially no.

Well tell that to Funimation, according to the narrator in Dragon Ball Super episode 1, just as the Majin Buu Saga/Conflict sequence of flashbacks is over it is implied: "Several months had passed since then and the Earth had enjoyed a time of peace". It means that the God of Destruction Saga is set in Age 774 or 775.

In the Japanese dub they kept it ambigious of how much time had passed since the Kid Buu fight with saying "Some time had passed" - it cand be months just as it can be years. FTR In the Hebrew dub it is also said "6 months had passed since Goku had put a stop to the cosmic threat of Majin Buu".

I wonder if I should point out to the fact designs doesn't really go hand in hand with a character's given age? Both Trunks and Goten are over 12 years old in Super yet look like they're 8 or 9. Same goes for Goku in the original DB series. Bulla FTR looked older than Pan in both EoZ and GT despite being younger than her, officially.

[Bullza]

The biggest recent one was their/your (if you're part of the admins there) to insist that Cranberry from the Moro Arc is Raspberry from the Namek Saga which was only fixed 2 days ago.

I had no involvement with that but it was only fixed two days ago because that was when the chapter came out and they named him. People here thought it was Raspberry, naturally he looks the exact same and is a Frieza soldier.

Well tell that to Funimation, according to the narrator in Dragon Ball Super episode 1, just as the Majin Buu Saga/Conflict sequence of flashbacks is over it is implied: "Several months had passed since then and the Earth had enjoyed a time of peace". It means that the God of Destruction Saga is set in Age 774 or 775.

Well regardless what the dub says, they are completely wrong. A mistranslation on there part perhaps but the "some time later" is the right answer.

Pan was 4 during EoZ in Age 784, that was said outright. She could not have been born earlier than Age 779. Videl could not have been pregnant before Age 778. So Bulma's birthday and the main events of that saga are in Age 778, there's no getting around that.

And it's not like 3 or 4 years passed from Episode 1 to this point because Episode 2 was immediately afterward and Bulma mentioned in that episode that her birthday was coming up and she wanted it on a ship.

I wonder if I should point out to the fact designs doesn't really go hand in hand with a character's given age? Both Trunks and Goten are over 12 years old in Super yet look like they're 8 or 9.

Well they're Saiyans, they were suppose to mature differently, they stay young for an extended period and then shoot up all in one go. That wouldn't apply to Marron.

[Green_Goblin]

And it's not like 3 or 4 years passed from Episode 1 to this point because Episode 2 was immediately afterward and Bulma mentioned in that episode that her birthday was coming up and she wanted it on a ship.

About the boat birthday, if indeed there had been a 2 cycles of 6 months since Kid Buu was defeated (the first was till the Dragon Ball could be activated to erase the Earth's memories of Majin Buu and the 2nd cycle was till Super episode 1) then this birthday was to occur in August of Age 775.

Because Pan was still 4 years old in Age 784 she could not have been prior to May Age 779. That does fit as well because Videl was pregnant in Battle of Gods and 9 months after August is May.

It couldn't take place months after Buu's defeat because Pan would have been 9 years old.

9 Months from August is April, not May; and Videl was already in her pregnancy in August. Then Pan would be born in April of Age 776. It's not such a major issue giving Pan the age of 8 while at the End of Z following your next claim of Saiyan blood making one look younger than he/she truly are.

I wonder if I should point out to the fact designs doesn't really go hand in hand with a character's given age? Both Trunks and Goten are over 12 years old in Super yet look like they're 8 or 9.

Well they're Saiyans, they were suppose to mature differently, they stay young for an extended period and then shoot up all in one go. That wouldn't apply to Marron.

Then how come Gohan seemed to age appropriately like any human being? he's half Saiyan, too. That's just lacking out in designs, Marron seemed to have grown younger like Benjamin Button instead of growing older. They have lacked hard on the designs section while making the Battle of Gods movie back in 2012/2013 and it was followed in the making of Super.

[PFM18]

Well that checks out.

Out of curiosity, how well does the Broly movie starting with 41 years earlier work, I'm sure there a ton of inconsistencies to worry about. I bet Whis popping out Bulla/Bra early gave them a bit of freedom to move the timeline around too haha.

They just forgot to take into account the 5-year time skip. They said "41 years ago" to describe the first sequence where Vegeta is born, and the leadership is changed. When really, they should have said "41 years ago" during the second sequence where Goku is sent off to Earth and Freeza destroys planet Vegeta. Or they could have just showed Freeza's destruction of the planet and then say "41 years later....."

[Bullza]

9 Months from August is April, not May; and Videl was already in her pregnancy in August.

Then Pan would be born in April of Age 776. It's not such a major issue giving Pan the age of 8 while at the End of Z following your next claim of Saiyan blood making one look younger than he/she truly are.

Bulma's birthday was in the middle of August, 9 months after that is the middle of May.

Pan can't be 8 years old in EoZ because they said she was 4 years old in the chapter itself. If it was from a guide then you could maybe wave it off but it was said in the series that was her age. She was definitely born in Age 779, no earlier than May otherwise she would have been 5 instead.

The guide listed Bra as being born in Age 780. The show has actually been consistent with that.

[Green_Goblin]

9 Months from August is April, not May; and Videl was already in her pregnancy in August.

Then Pan would be born in April of Age 776. It's not such a major issue giving Pan the age of 8 while at the End of Z following your next claim of Saiyan blood making one look younger than he/she truly are.

Bulma's birthday was in the middle of August, 9 months after that is the middle of May.

Pan can't be 8 years old in EoZ because they said she was 4 years old in the chapter itself. If it was from a guide then you could maybe wave it off but it was said in the series that was her age. She was definitely born in Age 779, no earlier than May otherwise she would have been 5 instead.

The guide listed Bra as being born in Age 780. The show has actually been consistent with that.

Videl was already carrying Pan in August, count to 9 including August and you reach to April.

If it was done, it wouldn't be the first time that a stated age or a trivia fact was changed/altered/dismissed in this franchise.

[Bullza]

If it was done, it wouldn't be the first time that a stated age or a trivia fact was changed/altered/dismissed in this franchise.

It wouldn't but too many things point toward it. Like I said Xenoverse gave these dates so they're as official as you're gonna get.

Another one is that Uub was meant to be 10 years old during EoZ. He was shown in the Universe Survival Saga as a young boy which makes sense because he'd be 6 years old by that point.

Future Trunks returned to his future in Age 785. He said he hadn't seen them for over 10 years, that would at least make it Age 795. He travelled back 17 years which would at least make it Age 778. It's actually meant to be Age 779 though which again fits. It couldn't be before that.

[nato25]

Well that checks out.

Out of curiosity, how well does the Broly movie starting with 41 years earlier work, I'm sure there a ton of inconsistencies to worry about. I bet Whis popping out Bulla/Bra early gave them a bit of freedom to move the timeline around too haha.

They just forgot to take into account the 5-year time skip. They said "41 years ago" to describe the first sequence where Vegeta is born, and the leadership is changed. When really, they should have said "41 years ago" during the second sequence where Goku is sent off to Earth and Freeza destroys planet Vegeta. Or they could have just showed Freeza's destruction of the planet and then say "41 years later....."

Ahh thats pretty good I suppose...

[Green_Goblin]

If it was done, it wouldn't be the first time that a stated age or a trivia fact was changed/altered/dismissed in this franchise.

It wouldn't but too many things point toward it. Like I said Xenoverse gave these dates so they're as official as you're gonna get.

The last time I've seen something that tried to be official and came from video games were the power levels of "Dragon Ball Z: Sagas" and "Dragon Ball Z: Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha - Ora to Omee to Scouter", and we all know it didn't played so well. To say the least.

Another one is that Uub was meant to be 10 years old during EoZ. He was shown in the Universe Survival Saga as a young boy which makes sense because he'd be 6 years old by that point.

Well, he can be 4 or 5 years old as well and no one will bat an eye. Uub's village is basically a 3rd world like society, nobody would be shocked if he was to take care of his brother while he himself is so young.

Future Trunks returned to his future in Age 785. He said he hadn't seen them for over 10 years, that would at least make it Age 795. He travelled back 17 years which would at least make it Age 778. It's actually meant to be Age 779 though which again fits. It couldn't be before that.

Let's try to make that clear due to the mess in your phrasing:

• 1) Future Trunks travelled back 17 years from his own timeline's Age 781 to August of Age 764 when Frieza and Cold invaded Earth.
  2) Three years had passed and it was Age 784 in his timeline, and 17 years back to our main timeline (Age 767) where the Androids Saga and Cell Conflicts took place.
  3) 12 years had passed from then by the time given to us in Xenoverse to Frieza's resurrection and the Goku Black conflict, meaning it's Age 779 in the modern timeline and Age 796 over in Future Trunks' timeline.

Now if we go by Beerus' 39 years of slumber and his lack of knowledge of Planet Vegeta's destruction/Saiyans' Genocide in Age 737/739 it doesn't prevent from him going to bed in either or in between Age 735 or Age 737. If we'll be pro the earliest Age then he would woke up in 774 which is EXACTLY THE YEAR KID BUU WAS KILLED IN, and if we'd go by the latest year - then it'd be Age 776 which is 2 years since the Majin Buu conflicts. No biggie, and it'd be fine by me and by the timeline since Bulma claimed in EoZ that she hadn't met Goku for 5 years till Age 784.

[Bullza]

The last time I've seen something that tried to be official and came from video games were the power levels of "Dragon Ball Z: Sagas" and "Dragon Ball Z: Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha - Ora to Omee to Scouter", and we all know it didn't played so well. To say the least.

Except they never tied into anything. They were something that was created strictly for that game alone.

The Ages that are given in Xenoverse are based off of other previously established official dates. Xenoverse didn't make up those dates, they are just going off of the official information.

Well, he can be 4 or 5 years old as well and no one will bat an eye.

If Dragon Ball Super only took place months after they defeated Buu then he wouldn't be as old as 4 or 5. He'd be 2 so that wouldn't work either.

then it'd be Age 776 which is 2 years since the Majin Buu conflicts.

Which would still put Gohan and Video in their final year of high school and they aren't. It would mean Pan would have been born in Age 777 so she'd be 7 years old in EoZ and she wasnt because she was 4 years old.

They defeated Buu in Age 774 and then "some time passed", that time being 4 years.

[Green_Goblin]

The last time I've seen something that tried to be official and came from video games were the power levels of "Dragon Ball Z: Sagas" and "Dragon Ball Z: Scouter Battle Taikan Kamehameha - Ora to Omee to Scouter", and we all know it didn't played so well. To say the least.

Except they never tied into anything. They were something that was created strictly for that game alone.

The Ages that are given in Xenoverse are based off of other previously established official dates. Xenoverse didn't make up those dates, they are just going off of the official information.

That's the same case for the video games I've mentioned, all of their "early" (till the Frieza Saga) power levels were based upon Toriyama's given ones and the Daizenshuu given ones and then there was an expension upon. But u dismiss them when it's easy/comfortable, right?

Well, he can be 4 or 5 years old as well and no one will bat an eye.

If Dragon Ball Super only took place months after they defeated Buu then he wouldn't be as old as 4 or 5. He'd be 2 so that wouldn't work either.

So you believe that Vegeta kept his promise to take Trunks to the amusement park for 4 years till Bulma innitiated a vacation prior to her birthday (the one Beerus attended)?

then it'd be Age 776 which is 2 years since the Majin Buu conflicts.

Which would still put Gohan and Video in their final year of high school and they aren't. It would mean Pan would have been born in Age 777 so she'd be 7 years old in EoZ and she wasnt because she was 4 years old.

They defeated Buu in Age 774 and then "some time passed", that time being 4 years.

The case of Pan being born earlier than previously stated is not such a hard pill to swallow. Many things that were established as "absolute dates" like Goku's birth date (Age 737) and Planet Vegeta's destruction in Age 737 were shifted into other dates (Ages 734 and Age 739 respectively). I've brought it up before, I don't get it why u fail to see it as a possiblity while u stated yourself that it's "totally fine" for a person of Saiyan ancestry to look younger than he/she truly are.

As for Gohan and Videl's age, it didn't seemed like they were already past college when Piccolo was spying on them in episode 3. If "some time had passed" it should have been 2 years max, and it was suppossed to be declared after OR at the end of episode 2 without the reference to a boat birthday, if they wanted to make a clean cut jump forward. But it's a not-so-well-written show, so I'm not surprised.