KBABZ wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:14 pm
It's such a shame that they went for matching Yamamoto rather than trying to accurately put the tracks back into their original place. Not only does that match the repetition of Yamamoto's score, but it also means that there's TONS of perfectly good Kikuchi music and themes being left on the table. I get it regarding the couple of remaining episodes that still had to be broadcast, but for the updated home releases there really was no excuse outside of not wanting to delay it. The fact that they didn't do that to me is an indicator of Toei's more modern approach to Dragon Ball where they just don't want to put in the money and effort to make it go from good to great because they'll make money either way (see: Super on TV, TFC, RoF). Hopefully Broly is a sign they're pivoting from that approach.
I mean, here's the thing with this assertion. Yes, they could've done better &, in some places, it's clear that Toei could've put in a bit more effort on their parts, like letting the rest of Kai be put together by Q-Tec like the first 98 episodes (seriously, was it REALLY that big of a price gap to outsource the remastering that Toei REALLY needed their own in-house team to do it?) & rushing the animators to meet a deadline on Super, as well as its inconsistent script writing brought on by the writers not planning out the arcs in advance so they were consistent within themselves & feeling like they were writing by the seat of their pants, at least in the Future Trunks Arc, which had some of the most inconsistent writing I've ever seen in DB since the Buu Saga of Z, which had the writers putting in filler material on top of Toriyama's more comedic throwback writing that clashed with the more serious tone the Z portion of the series. Res F, I don't think was their fault. It was Toriyama's for writing a tensionless movie that had enough of a plot to be an arc of a TV series, which I think only benefitted it when it was converted into Super.
Broly was one where I think Toriyama had a mission. He wanted to bring in Broly & had the monumentous task of making him a better character than he was originally (because his blood knight tendencies fueled by his hatred of Goku crying when they were babies in the nursery were just stupid & Broly wasn't really a character in his own movies) & making you care about him that this movie had focus & something to prove. The script was also initially 3 hours before being cut down nearly an hour for time reasons, which some people could feel because there were weird pacing issues stemming from the cuts, so they also had a lot to work with. They also made the decision to change the animation director so that the animation department could get out of the rut they were in with the designer they had before, resulting in a movie with great animation & a possible great return to TV eventually if Super's gonna come back this year or in the near future with a return to form animation-wise.
That being said, if they give FUNimation the first generation film masters & FUNi get the team that remastered their 3rd generation masters on the job & both companies but money into this & split the check, then we could have what could be the best release of this series, possibly any animated show of its era. Like, I'd still default to kai, since it has better pacing & a better English dub, but I’d like a watchable version of the show on Blu-Ray for my archive.
SuperSaiyaManZ94 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:40 pm
Yeah, and that is because the Faulconer score was specifically produced to go with FUNi's heavily reversioned (and wildly inaccurate) dub of the show back in the days when replacement scores in dubbed anime here in the States were still quite common in the '90s. Since the Orange Bricks and onward however, it seems FUNi has moved away from that mindset and are halfway burying that version under the rug even though not going so far as to leave it off releases completely minus of course the Dragon Boxes.
That definitely speaks to how much has been changed at the company over the years from when Barry Watson and co were still calling the shots, and we have seen that not just in the more recent Dragon Ball dub productions from them but others such as One Piece and so on.
Also, in terms of an accurate English dub of the series with the FUNi cast Z Kai does fit that bill for the most part even if it still is not completely 100% in terms of accuracy to the original version.
I mean, I heard it was space reasons they left it off, or maybe it was because the D Boxes were supposed to be the more pure form to watch the series in. Either way, I don't think it's because they changed their ways since the early 2000s to dub anime with the Japanese scores intact. Granted, the only products they replaced the scores for were Z, GT, & the Z movies, so it's not like that practice stuck around very long once they knew what they were doing. I mean, Yu Yu Hakusho was the first product they dubbed since DB & they didn't replace the score for it at all, so it's more involved than you're giving them credit for.