JulieYBM wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:36 am
Ah, shit, I forgot to point you in the direction of
Beautiful Fighting Girl by psychiatrist Saitou Tamaki. There's a section of the book that discusses how Japanese stories make use of a phenomenon known as
manpu, taken from
koudan storytelling. In koudan, "time and space are grossly exaggerated according to the passion and expressivity of the characters."
"The koudan 'Kan'ei Sanbajutsu' (Horse-rising in the Kan'ei era), for example, is a long and extremely detailed description of how Magaki Heikurou climbs up a stone staircase on a horse. This kind of unlimited extension of a single privileged moment is typical of the atemporality of koudan storytelling..."
This sort of thing was typically done in gekiga comics, but then Nakajima Norihiro's
Astro Kyuudan came around and decided to whip out its fifteen inch cock. アストロ球団 (
Astro Kyuudan) is a 183 chapter comic that literally covers only
one baseball game. Twenty collected volumes...
two thousand pages-plus...only one baseball game. That's way bigger than anything
Dragon Ball tries. And according to Saitou's book, with exception for a few raised eyebrows, Shounen JUMP readers had no problem with it. The comic lasted from 22 August 1972 to 01 June 1976. The closest I can think of is
Bleach Chapters #237-422 covering a single day.
Ishinomori Shoutarou was a big fan of western films, so his comics would follow suit and match the 'consistent' speed of western films as part of its flow. Nagai Gou, however, was different. Nagai was different, he set what is now the standard of Japanese comics by having time no longer flow. Nagai had time contract and expand with the reader's subjective view point. Action scenes are draw with large panels and run for many pages. This is why Nagai's work seemed to be adapted more so into animation, rather than Ishinomori, who saw most of his works adapted into live action: Nagai's works have a sort of 'atemporality' to them.
I suggest picking up Beautiful Fighting Girl, not only for the information about koudan, but also how it delves into other aspects of Japanese comics, animation, characters, queer theory and Otaku sexuality.
EDIT:
In this Twitter thread I tried taking photos of the pages I was referencing here. I couldn't type all of the information, so if you can somehow read these shoddy pictures you'll see what I was getting at with more information. I also suggest looking into kairological time.
), so why did Toei, Toyotaro, and/or Toriyama only make it 48 minutes? So much happens in the tournament, but it only gets 48 minutes when we have to go through at least 60 characters? 
