"Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

[Bullza]

What's pitiful is your constant bitching about the game for the most idiotic reasons.

Why do you only come out of the wood work whenever I say something about this game? You've bitched more about me bitching than I've bitched about this bitch.

Vegito and Gogeta are not the same characters. Simple as that. Different movesets, different personalities.

Utterly irrelevant as you've already been told by numerous times by now. They could add Kid Goku from Dragon Ball, False Super Saiyan Goku, Super Saiyan Third Grade Goku, Super Saiyan God Goku, Ultra Instinct Omen Goku, Ultra Instinct Goku, Super Saiyan 4 Goku, Super Vegito, Super Saiyan Gogeta etc and they could all play differently.

Your defence fails because they could have Janemba, Bojack, Mercenary Tao, Master Roshi, Kefla, Toppo, Dispo, Dabura, Omega Shenron, Zarbon etc and they'd also have different movesets but would actually be a different character.

They wouldn't be the same character with different colour hair like Base Goku. The personality doesn't mean squat either.

[Nickolaidas]

Then don't pay for it. Simple as that. This is season 2 of DLC. They don't have to give you shit. YOU have the option of paying for it or not. As far as I'm concerned it's nothing but fanservice at this point and those expected a huge roster upgrade without paying for a sequel are out of their minds.

People have been so spoiled by "different skin/same character" model that's plagued this franchise in games for so long it's ridiculous and clearly have never played or paid for a real fighting game before.

What a clever way of sidestepping the argument. So unless I pay for a product - which I did, btw - I cannot criticize it?

As for being 'spoiled', devs are far more guilty of that sin, since they constantly hold content 'hostage' via pre-orders, prompting people to pay up front for DLC they do not know what entails, and charging people 5$ for skins *coughcoughSFVcoughcough*. How is paying for 5$ for a bearded Ryu not 'spoiled'? But sure, the consumer is at fault here. For daring to speak his mind about a roster or a DLC's content.

News flash: People don't have to pay shit in order to criticize a crappy DLC practice when they see one, a poor roster choice or a product that failed to meet their expectations (to the point that caused them to skip a purchase) or anything.

Star Wars Battlefront II was a miserable loot-boxing cash grab piece of crap, and not buying it will never prevent me from calling it out as such.

[EXBadguy]

Bruh....ANOTHER Goku? What are they doing? Also, why the GT Kid Goku? These bastards could've at least made the one from the original DB or hell, even SSJ4 Goku.

[mahakaishin1991]

Because they wanted to give GT some representation too, Super has plenty of stuff in the game already. I see no problem.

Because apparently, Super Saiyan 4 Goku and Baby Vegeta or Omega Shenron werent totally viable candidates?

[Zamasu55]

Disappointing...

[LightBing]

It’s almost like they’re popular or something.....

Probably why the Base Goku and Vegeta pack sold the fewest amount then.

Source for that statement?

[sunsetshimmer]

I was expecting GT Kid Goku to appear as it will let them combine both OG Goku and GT Goku.
Also, kid Goku will be far more original choice than another adult Goku and they will probably add UI Goku at some point which will make things even worse than now.

[infermon]

I assume this was done as a compromise to satiate the requests for young Goku from the original Dragon Ball... so either ArcSys aren't allowing characters who can't fly, or Bandai Namco believe that GT's brand recognition is stronger than Dragon Ball's. The former is a poor excuse - other video games have worked around it just fine - while the latter is just a depressing prospect. No way is it down to pre-23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Goku lacking moveset potential; ArcSys managed to cobble together movesets for Cooler, who appeared in just two movies, perfectly fine. Goku was a kid for 165 chapters of the manga, 132 episodes of the anime, and four movies to boot - that's plenty to work with. For a character who was probably highly requested in large part because he called to mind the simpler, lower stakes nature of the first five arcs, the compromise pick we've now gotten having a Super Saiyan 3 install of all things is such a hilarious misjudgment of the appeal of the character in the first place.

[90sDBZ]

While I've never hated Goku being a kid in GT and have always loved SS4, I have to say the roster for this game is starting to resemble that of Final Bout i.e. largely populated by Goku's.

I only recently downloaded Base Goku and Vegeta as they were on sale, although I may get GT Goku sooner if he has SS4 and a good moveset. All things considered though it does seem strange they didn't go with UI Goku when Jiren just came out. Even I think releasing BOTH GT Goku and UI in the same season of DLC would be overkill.

[Nickolaidas]

The game is *this* close of earning the "Goku Fighter Z" moniker it was previously wrongly given by some haters.

[LightBing]

Seems like this might be a mix between GT Goku and Early Dragon Ball Goku, that will improve things(for me) if it get's confirmed. He also goes SSJ3 if a member of your team dies, anchor character we need more of these.

[Kataphrut]

This feels like it has to be a compromise, right? Kid Goku and SS4 are two of the most popular Goku variants not yet in the game, so combine them into one will appease everyone, right? No. People who want Kid Goku don’t want the boring angular GT version. They want cloud-riding pole-wielding potato boy from Dragon Ball. And SS4 fans don’t want SS4 to be a Super or at best an install (which hasn’t been confirmed but there’s no way that’s not the case, right?), they want to play as the big red monkey man.

So yeah, this sounds like a worst of both worlds situation. This game doesn’t need more Goku’s, even if the character turns out to be good, it’s a bad look.

[jcogginsa]

This feels like it has to be a compromise, right? Kid Goku and SS4 are two of the most popular Goku variants not yet in the game, so combine them into one will appease everyone, right? No. People who want Kid Goku don’t want the boring angular GT version. They want cloud-riding pole-wielding potato boy from Dragon Ball. And SS4 fans don’t want SS4 to be a Super or at best an install (which hasn’t been confirmed but there’s no way that’s not the case, right?), they want to play as the big red monkey man.

So yeah, this sounds like a worst of both worlds situation. This game doesn’t need more Goku’s, even if the character turns out to be good, it’s a bad look.

Well by all indications they're getting the pole wielding kid goku

[Pokesamus217]

This feels like it has to be a compromise, right? Kid Goku and SS4 are two of the most popular Goku variants not yet in the game, so combine them into one will appease everyone, right? No. People who want Kid Goku don’t want the boring angular GT version. They want cloud-riding pole-wielding potato boy from Dragon Ball. And SS4 fans don’t want SS4 to be a Super or at best an install (which hasn’t been confirmed but there’s no way that’s not the case, right?), they want to play as the big red monkey man.

So yeah, this sounds like a worst of both worlds situation. This game doesn’t need more Goku’s, even if the character turns out to be good, it’s a bad look.

Says you. I’m perfectly fine with the decision to composite the two of them.

[Kanassa]

Then don't pay for it. Simple as that

If you don't like what someone is saying, don't read or respond to them. See how flimsy that deflection sounds?

[Lord Beerus]

A little late to the news, but I have to say, I'm a bit weary on the idea of another "Goku character" in the game. I hope that the inclusion of GT Goku will transition into him being able transform into SSJ4, much like Final Form Freeza is able to transform into Golden Freeza in the game. If not, this is a colossal waste of a character slot that could have gone to someone like Dabra, Janemba, Kefla, King Piccolo or even Roshi, that would have provided more variety in battle.

[Bullza]

It's yet another waste of a character either way but it should have at least been Super Saiyan 4 Goku. That's one of the few things from GT that people actually like. The little kid Goku was one of the reasons GT was such a disappointment.

The base game roster was fine but the DLC has been pretty dire. There was really no need for Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta and Broly when you already have Super Saiyan Blue Vegito and Broly.

Black Hair Goku. Little Goku. Father Goku. Another Vegeta. Android 17 when he was already sort of there with Android 18. Videl who nobody really cares all that much for.

I'd rather have had Kefla than these.

[Kataphrut]

This feels like it has to be a compromise, right? Kid Goku and SS4 are two of the most popular Goku variants not yet in the game, so combine them into one will appease everyone, right? No. People who want Kid Goku don’t want the boring angular GT version. They want cloud-riding pole-wielding potato boy from Dragon Ball. And SS4 fans don’t want SS4 to be a Super or at best an install (which hasn’t been confirmed but there’s no way that’s not the case, right?), they want to play as the big red monkey man.

So yeah, this sounds like a worst of both worlds situation. This game doesn’t need more Goku’s, even if the character turns out to be good, it’s a bad look.

Says you. I’m perfectly fine with the decision to composite the two of them.

I've never had a problem with the Gokus and Vegetas in this game up to now because as a fan, I appreciate that they're representing different eras of the franchise. Z and Super have had their share, it's only fair that DB and GT do as well. Having GT Goku represent both versions undermines them. Give us SS4 representing GT, give us Kid Goku representing DB and DON'T have them as DLC because making them DLC characters emphasizes the lack of diversity in the roster.

But really, the bad idea with all of these variants is having them be DLC. DLC characters should either be hype characters that everyone wants to play as (Broly, Bardock, Vegetto and Gogeta) or add a spice of diversity to the roster (Jiren, Videl, maaaybe Zamasu...that's how bad this rollout has been). Adding nonstop variants of existing characters accomplishes neither. Those characters should be saved for sequels where they're not being paid for separately and can fit in alongside gameplay/graphic changes and other appeals.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

So long as he plays differently than the other Gokus this addition is perfectly fine.

[HeroR]

That's hilarious, so in a game that only has 34 characters with DLC we have

Base Goku
Super Saiyan Goku
Super Saiyan Blue Goku
GT Goku
Super Saiyan Blue Vegito
Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta
Bardock
Goku Black

Who are all just different versions of Goku, almost a quarter of the roster. Amongst the entire franchise of unique characters that look differently and have completely different abilities altogether, that's what they go with.

That's pitiful.

Black is no more Goku than Ginyu was Goku when he stole his body. And the fusions are different characters from their fusion characters. Otherwise, you can called Merged Zamasu 'Goku' since he's half Black and you count Black as Goku. Also, Bardock is Goku's dad, not Goku.

It's yet another waste of a character either way but it should have at least been Super Saiyan 4 Goku. That's one of the few things from GT that people actually like. The little kid Goku was one of the reasons GT was such a disappointment.

The base game roster was fine but the DLC has been pretty dire. There was really no need for Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta and Broly when you already have Super Saiyan Blue Vegito and Broly.

Black Hair Goku. Little Goku. Father Goku. Another Vegeta. Android 17 when he was already sort of there with Android 18. Videl who nobody really cares all that much for.

I'd rather have had Kefla than these.

Vegito and Gogeta don't look or fight the same, they're two different characters. The same with Super Broly compared to OG Broly.

And calling Bardock 'Father Goku' is like someone calling Goku, 'Father Gohan'. That and counting 17 who was stuck as part as 18 is just silly and reeks bias, and I don't even care for 17 that much.