Vic Mignogna

[Bryesque]

I feel like this should take the wind out of conspiracy peddlers' (and dipshit failing lawyer's) sails re: making slanderous claims...

Under no circumstance has any guest influenced our contracts or negotiations. These contracts ours to uphold and our responsibility alone.

...but I know it won't.

But yeah, what a mess. These tweets implicitly admit they've caused a lot of needless strife and made guests and attendees feel unsafe. They're trying to skate around accountability by saying it's run by fans, but that excuse doesn't cut it. If you're organizing something on this level you have to step up.

[Gyt Kaliba]

So Nick Reketia is resorting to blackmail right now

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/11 ... 36928?s=21

That...that can't be legal, surely. Not even the blackmailing or threatening bit, just releasing information on someone else's contract via a Youtube video without their permission.

Jesus fucking Christ, this is snowballing into a worse and worse situation with every passing day. And at this point, no matter how it falls 'legally', I don't think there's any way possible for Vic to ever hope to get his reputation back, or much of his career, because now I doubt very many companies are going to want to work with someone who's liable to kick up this much trouble whether they believe he's innocent or not. Most smart companies anyway... At this point it has to be all about paying people back who have "wronged" him from his POV, or just trying to make everything else burn around him or something, because that's all that's happening.

[ssj4]

Lord Vic.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2goYMKXQAA7TKS.jpg:large

[gokaiblue]

I feel like this should take the wind out of conspiracy peddlers' (and dipshit failing lawyer's) sails re: making slanderous claims...

Under no circumstance has any guest influenced our contracts or negotiations. These contracts ours to uphold and our responsibility alone.

...but I know it won't.

But yeah, what a mess. These tweets implicitly admit they've caused a lot of needless strife and made guests and attendees feel unsafe. They're trying to skate around accountability by saying it's run by fans, but that excuse doesn't cut it. If you're organizing something on this level you have to step up.

One even claimed they tweeted that simply because the VAs supposedly harassed the con and failed. It's just maddening how deep the rabbit hole goes.

[Robo4900]

Lord Vic.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2goYMKXQAA7TKS.jpg:large

That... That can't be serious, right?... That has to be satire, right? >_>

[Char Aznable]

Lord Vic.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2goYMKXQAA7TKS.jpg:large

That... That can't be serious, right?... That has to be satire, right? >_>

Yeah that's not satire. Many people are just that cringy.

[Cursed Lemon]

So Nick Reketia is resorting to blackmail right now

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/11 ... 36928?s=21

Twitter: "HE NEVER SAID IT WAS A KAMEHACON CONTRACT, STOP REACHING LIBTARDS"

Why...would he post it...if it has nothing to do with the current situation...

[gokaiblue]

If it's not from Kamehacon, why bring it up? There are no standard contracts (except union ones), so it's not that relevant.

[immakillya]

So this is my first post on this topic, tried reading a few early pages and a few recent messages of the topic, and I'm confused.

Was just curious if anyone could sum up the pro and anti vic sides. Clearly no one has to do this for me, because I'm too lazy to do my own research. Just wondering if anyone would be kind enough to do it.

If there is evidence of vic sexually harassing someone, I don't see what there could be a debate about. And there was something about a lawyer in black face.... wtf does that have to do with this. Just curious if anyone wanted to sum this up for me. Totally understand if no one does, and just ignores this post lol

[TheBlackPaladin]

I think they’re incompetent because IF they had to legally bring in Vic (I don’t know if that’s the case, if it is then please tell me)...

Well first off, thank you for your response.

Secondly, as far as whether or not it's a legal matter that they had to bring him in...it could be. Con appearances are (with some exceptions) not handshake deals, there are contracts involved. For that matter, there are talent agencies whose sole job is to represent people for convention and personal appearances (here's the website of the agency that represents Sean Schemmel, Chris Sabat, and Monica Rial, among others).

Why talent agencies? Well, because of the money.

I sincerely apologize in advance if what I'm about to write elicits a "Yes, yes, we know..."-reaction (as I'm sure many of you know this already), but for the benefit of the few here who may not know, voice actors do indeed get "personal appearance fees" for showing up at conventions. Convention guests are very rarely there just on handshake deals, there's usually some money involved. It didn't used to be that way, but that's the way it has been for a number of years now ever since conventions started becoming more mainstream.

Of course, that's not to say that there aren't guests there who genuinely enjoy being there and put in an honest effort to satisfy their fans and make sure the attendees have fun, as there are plenty of guests who fall under that category. Thing is, even those guests are getting paid to appear. What they are getting paid varies according to how skilled a negotiator the agent is (or the actor, if they don't have a personal appearances agent), the size/budget of the convention, and the popularity of the actor in question, and one con appearance in and of itself is no huge deal money-wise. However, if you appear at a lot of them? The money can add up pretty quickly. I won't name names, but I know of quite a number of actors who, ironically enough, make more money talking about their work...than doing their actual work.

To bring this all back to Vic, it could very well be that his personal appearances agent signed a contract that Kamehamehacon can't get out of. If I'm reading the history of all this correctly, it appears as though the convention staff un-invited him and then brought him back again. My guess is that they dropped him, and then either Vic, his lawyer, or his personal appearances agent called the convention and read them the contract they had already signed.

Looks like KamehaCon's in full damage control now too.

KamehaCon[/url]]We will be making multiple announcements today. First and foremost, we are running a fan convention built by fans. Under no circumstance has any guest influenced our contracts or negotiations. These contracts ours to uphold and our responsibility alone.

KamehaCon[/url]]We are aware of withdraws from the convention. Those discussions will be handled professionally and privately. We ask that you please respect their decisions. We still have some amazing guests that will be announced that are excited to meet you all this year!

KamehaCon[/url]]Our vast security team is lead by and comprised of the fine men and women of Texas law enforcement. We have a ZERO tolerance policy for harassment and we take all threats seriously. Anyone who seeks to violate these rules will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

KamehaCon[/url]]Our online maps will soon reflect safe areas to report harassment of any kind. The Kameha Con app will soon be updated to have a quick icon, easily visible to report these cases as well. Please review our policies here

Ugh...just let it sink in for a moment that they had to create an app to identify safe areas solely because of one particular guest.

[MasenkoHA]

So this is my first post on this topic, tried reading a few early pages and a few recent messages of the topic, and I'm confused.

Was just curious if anyone could sum up the pro and anti vic sides. Clearly no one has to do this for me, because I'm too lazy to do my own research. Just wondering if anyone would be kind enough to do it.

If there is evidence of vic sexually harassing someone, I don't see what there could be a debate about. And there was something about a lawyer in black face.... wtf does that have to do with this. Just curious if anyone wanted to sum this up for me. Totally understand if no one does, and just ignores this post lol

Last time on Dragon Ball Z


Vic’s sexual harassment and penchant for hitting on young girls unde 18 has been an open secret for years and now it’s finally caught up to him.

According to the pro Vic side there’s no evidence because they haven’t seen any photos or videos (and any videos showing Vic being a little too touchy feely are allegedly fake)

Some third rate lawyer Nick Rikieta is making a big show of being Vic’s lawyer or something. Said lawyer has a rep for being kind of a tool. He also has worn and defending wearing black face in the name of free speech.

[Kinokima]

So this is my first post on this topic, tried reading a few early pages and a few recent messages of the topic, and I'm confused.

Was just curious if anyone could sum up the pro and anti vic sides. Clearly no one has to do this for me, because I'm too lazy to do my own research. Just wondering if anyone would be kind enough to do it.

If there is evidence of vic sexually harassing someone, I don't see what there could be a debate about. And there was something about a lawyer in black face.... wtf does that have to do with this. Just curious if anyone wanted to sum this up for me. Totally understand if no one does, and just ignores this post lol

Last time on Dragon Ball Z


Vic’s sexual harassment and penchant for hitting on young girls unde 18 has been an open secret for years and now it’s finally caught up to him.

According to the pro Vic side there’s no evidence because they haven’t seen any photos or videos (and any videos showing Vic being a little too touchy feely are allegedly fake)

Some third rate lawyer Nick Rikieta is making a big show of being Vic’s lawyer or something. Said lawyer has a rep for being kind of a tool. He also has worn and defending wearing black face in the name of free speech.

Nick Reketia is a friend of Vic’s and also lawyer that is prominent on social media but not Vic’s lawyer. This guy is http://beardandharris.com/ty-beard.html

[KBABZ]

So this is my first post on this topic, tried reading a few early pages and a few recent messages of the topic, and I'm confused.

Was just curious if anyone could sum up the pro and anti vic sides. Clearly no one has to do this for me, because I'm too lazy to do my own research. Just wondering if anyone would be kind enough to do it.

If there is evidence of vic sexually harassing someone, I don't see what there could be a debate about. And there was something about a lawyer in black face.... wtf does that have to do with this. Just curious if anyone wanted to sum this up for me. Totally understand if no one does, and just ignores this post lol

As mentioned by Masenko, the main dividing factor between the two sides (outside of one having major support of Vic's own fanclub) is what constitutes acceptable evidence. There's a LOT of testimonies put out there by both convention goers and VAs, including some of Vic's own co-workers such as Monica Rial, but for the StandWith crowd, that isn't enough, and as mentioned any video evidence isn't accepted by that side either.

Unfortunately, the nature of how many people handle sexual harassment means that you are often shamed for reporting on it because people either A) Legitimately are unable to understand what a big deal it is for the victims, or B) Prefer to brush it under the rug and stick their head in the sand to avoid creating a rather toothy issue for themselves (both can have infuriating responses such as "you're not being a team player"). This is why within the VA community, Vic's behaviour was an open secret, one which wasn't publicly known due to shitty handling of reported cases (conventions included), which has really bolstered the StandWith crowd and their "Why didn't you report it???" argument.

As for the lawyer, Vic's legal representative is unfortunately an obnoxious and big-headed personality who has his own YouTube channel and runs his social media like he's being a cocky PR representative for his client. I'm no expert on legal conductivity, but I assume it isn't normal behaviour for a laywer to shit-talk his opponents over Twitter using hashtag movements to rally the support of his client's fanclub, especially long before anything has actually happened in the courtroom.

[immakillya]

So this is my first post on this topic, tried reading a few early pages and a few recent messages of the topic, and I'm confused.

Was just curious if anyone could sum up the pro and anti vic sides. Clearly no one has to do this for me, because I'm too lazy to do my own research. Just wondering if anyone would be kind enough to do it.

If there is evidence of vic sexually harassing someone, I don't see what there could be a debate about. And there was something about a lawyer in black face.... wtf does that have to do with this. Just curious if anyone wanted to sum this up for me. Totally understand if no one does, and just ignores this post lol

Last time on Dragon Ball Z


Vic’s sexual harassment and penchant for hitting on young girls unde 18 has been an open secret for years and now it’s finally caught up to him.

According to the pro Vic side there’s no evidence because they haven’t seen any photos or videos (and any videos showing Vic being a little too touchy feely are allegedly fake)

Some third rate lawyer Nick Rikieta is making a big show of being Vic’s lawyer or something. Said lawyer has a rep for being kind of a tool. He also has worn and defending wearing black face in the name of free speech.

Lol, thank you for that. I totally read that in the last time preview voice. I think that's all I really wanted to know ^^

[gokaiblue]

As for the lawyer, Vic's legal representative is unfortunately an obnoxious and big-headed personality who has his own YouTube channel and runs his social media like he's being a cocky PR representative for his client. I'm no expert on legal conductivity, but I assume it isn't normal behaviour for a laywer to shit-talk his opponents over Twitter using hashtag movements to rally the support of his client's fanclub, especially long before anything has actually happened in the courtroom.

Actually, Ty Beard represents Vic.

[KBABZ]

As for the lawyer, Vic's legal representative is unfortunately an obnoxious and big-headed personality who has his own YouTube channel and runs his social media like he's being a cocky PR representative for his client. I'm no expert on legal conductivity, but I assume it isn't normal behaviour for a laywer to shit-talk his opponents over Twitter using hashtag movements to rally the support of his client's fanclub, especially long before anything has actually happened in the courtroom.

Actually, Ty Beard represents Vic.

Occurred to me I never used a name, but regardless this Vic lawyer stuff is confusing. Why does he appear to have two???

[gokaiblue]

As for the lawyer, Vic's legal representative is unfortunately an obnoxious and big-headed personality who has his own YouTube channel and runs his social media like he's being a cocky PR representative for his client. I'm no expert on legal conductivity, but I assume it isn't normal behaviour for a laywer to shit-talk his opponents over Twitter using hashtag movements to rally the support of his client's fanclub, especially long before anything has actually happened in the courtroom.

Actually, Ty Beard represents Vic.

Occurred to me I never used a name, but regardless this Vic lawyer stuff is confusing. Why does he appear to have two???

One is actually the lawyer for Vic, the other is just using the situation to be an edge lord.

[miguelnuva1]

As for the lawyer, Vic's legal representative is unfortunately an obnoxious and big-headed personality who has his own YouTube channel and runs his social media like he's being a cocky PR representative for his client. I'm no expert on legal conductivity, but I assume it isn't normal behaviour for a laywer to shit-talk his opponents over Twitter using hashtag movements to rally the support of his client's fanclub, especially long before anything has actually happened in the courtroom.

Actually, Ty Beard represents Vic.

Occurred to me I never used a name, but regardless this Vic lawyer stuff is confusing. Why does he appear to have two???

It is actually common the more money and fame you have to have more then one lawyer. In Vics case his second lawyer is a friend giving trying help as opposed to being hired.

[Akamay]

Having seen a bunch of statements from both sides, I really have zero clues about how the hell things got to this point.

Still, all I can really say is that this whole mess is quickly devolving into a bunch of people committing way too much to either side.
When things start getting to the point where people will actively go to a con and break the stuff there because they invited or refused to invite a voice actor, I kinda feel that it has gone too far.

From what I've seen, the most vocal people are the ones who are the least involved with the whole case.

[TheZFighter]

I looked into this subject a bit on Twitter and I have to say some of these "Vic supporters" are pretty horrifying.

As above said, it seems to be a lot of people who aren't involved and don't know what they're talking about, appearing to, blindly defend somebody they're a fan of and attacking anyone who isn't with them.

For all the good that can come from the internet and social media, it can be a horrible and depressing place sometimes...