Vic Mignogna

[AgitoZ]

Hence the quotes. Then again, Ty Beard was on the channel too.

I don't quite follow. The quotes implied you are specifically referring to something I have said. I did not refer to Beard in my post. Or maybe you meant to use the quotes as if Mignogna is still in a roundabout way Rekieta's client. It's odd.

Nothing that Beard reveals to Nick is confidential. Both of them could get in trouble for this. It seems like you haven't actually watched those streams with him.

I don't care if he's only using "public" information, if he's my counsel I don't want him broadcasting my situation to the entire fucking planet - ESPECIALLY in an absurdly propagandist way - and if he did I'd kick his stupid teeth in. But it doesn't matter, because I'd sooner represent myself in court with less than no legal experience than hire that idiot.

Again, I don't quite follow your writing. If you're talking about Rekieta, once again he is not Mignogna's lawyer. He's got every right to continue doing his streams and talk about the available information.

If you're talking about Beard, he talks to Mignogna on a regular basis. Anything Mignogna does not want out there, Beard does not mention. What's happening to Mignogna is allegedly a defamation campaign. Mignogna's reputation is being taken through the mud in the public sphere and Beard has every reason to use the platform provided by Rekieta to provide a counter that in anyway he can.

You seem prone to what seems like hyperbole. I again suggest not harming a lawyer. But I HIGHLY suggest never ever representing yourself in court.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I think that I've been reading this thread too much, as I just had a dream that I was accompanying Vic to Kamehacon, pretending to be his supporter, when really I was using hidden cameras to try to catch him in the act of doing something inappropriate.

[Bryesque]

So apparently according to nick rekietas recent stream, Toei know about all the situation...and apparently they aren’t happy with how it’s all been handled at all.

Yeah... I'm curious about how he presented this "information", because this reeks of his usual hyperbolic BS. Did he say anything definitive? Or was it "I hear that ___" or "my source says ___" or anything along those lines? Because if so, that effectively means "I'm spreading a rumour and wording it in a way that I can deny making any actual claims when it goes nowhere". We've seen that move before.

Remember when he was implying that he had a Kamehacon guest contract to use against the withdrawn guests... and he just had some boilerplate contract from an entirely unrelated show that proved absolutely nothing? Remember when he was heavily implying that Kamehacon could/would sue the withdrawn guests for breach of contract... and all parties pubicly stated they'd already worked out an agreement and everything was amicable?

Podunk Lionel Hutz has a habit of "implying" things to get his fanboys worked up and drive livestream views... and then completely not delivering. One could assume that's his entire business plan at this point. (God knows he seems to have infinite time on his hands for a practicing lawyer. I've known several lawyers building their careers, and lemme tell you, none of them would have time to tweet and livestream like this if things were going well.)

But long story short - this has nothing whatsoever to do with Toei, and as long as Funimation is living up to their licensing contract, they have no reason to care at all. And history has suggested they won't.

Rekieta isn't a trustworthy source, he's the face of pro-Vic propaganda. Even if he's right, which I doubt because Toei has proven time and time again that they do not give a shit what happens with dubs, it doesn't matter. The man did things that he deserved to be fired for, banned from conventions for. That's what happened to him. End of story.

Precisely. He's directly financially involved with Mignogna as a fundraiser and has a vested interested in spreading propaganda for that cause. He's hitched his wagon to this controversy, just like every 'gater drama-fest he has before this, because he knows the MRA/alt-right/etc crowd will give him endless clicks and Patreon subscriptions. It's the easiest game in the world - tell the mob of gullible, always-outraged marks what they want to hear, and they'll follow you and throw money at you like they're in a cult. The fact that so many 'gaters are hero-worshipping a small-town Minnesota lawyer who (based on public records) works like 6 cases year shows how desperate they are for someone to "legitimize" their outrage campaign.

And that's the exact reason nobody should ever click on his videos, even for a hot second. (And why his fanboys are so weirdly pushy about demanding you watch his crap - he's got them working his game for him!) Every click or view he gets gives him money from video monetization and helps him get more attention in YouTube's algorithm. This is exactly how so many alt-right grifters are able to spread misinformation and propaganda far and wide. Don't help 'em.

[SaiyaSith]

Toei has proven time and time again that they do not give a shit what happens with dubs, it doesn't matter.

Toei definitely cares. They license Dragon Ball to Funimation and Dragon Ball is their biggest brand.

[Kinokima]

Reketia is a lawyer and I have no question he knows the law but people act like he is some type of genius who knows all crack me up. I don’t really care that he posts videos on YouTube. But he is not just doing it to teach the law (that I would have no problem with) but to round up his Alt-Right & Gamer Gate fan boys. He had an agenda and from the little I've seen of him he’s s pretty nasty & immoral guy.

[KBABZ]

Toei has proven time and time again that they do not give a shit what happens with dubs, it doesn't matter.

Toei definitely cares. They license Dragon Ball to Funimation and Dragon Ball is their biggest brand.

On the other hand, they didn't bother to translate their scripts for Funi back in the day and they seemed to have no problem whatsoever with the end product that still stands as the official English dub of Dragon Ball Z.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Toei has proven time and time again that they do not give a shit what happens with dubs, it doesn't matter.

Toei definitely cares. They license Dragon Ball to Funimation and Dragon Ball is their biggest brand.

On the other hand, they didn't bother to translate their scripts for Funi back in the day and they seemed to have no problem whatsoever with the end product that still stands as the official English dub of Dragon Ball Z.

Which is why i am glad that the Kai dub exists, because it's a dub of a condensed down version of the show i can actually bear to watch. That's because as we know of course the original in house dub of DBZ is an inaccurate amaturely voiced mess.

[SaiyaSith]

Toei has proven time and time again that they do not give a shit what happens with dubs, it doesn't matter.

Toei definitely cares. They license Dragon Ball to Funimation and Dragon Ball is their biggest brand.

On the other hand, they didn't bother to translate their scripts for Funi back in the day and they seemed to have no problem whatsoever with the end product that still stands as the official English dub of Dragon Ball Z.

It's different these days when the west is a large part of their profits. Something so public and divisive is without a doubt on their radar.

[Valerius Dover]

Japanese companies are actually a lot harsher on actors and other staff members who have done similar things. Even if they were invested in the situation, they certainly wouldn't take his side. Those videos are just clickbait.

[Bryesque]

Follow the shifting narrative!

Notice how the message went from "Mignogna is innocent", but now they seem to be debating what qualifies as "sexual assault" under Texas law? That seems to tacitly admit that they accept that Mignogna is guilty of what he's been accused, but they're debating semantics and technicalities to reset the narrative to protect him.

As for Toei... this whole "ToEI kNoWs AbOUt tHe SiTUaTiON" thing is kind of hilarious. I mean, yeah, they probably do, and probably have for a while! They're not on another planet; all of this is public information on the Internet, so it stands to reason they've picked up on it (or more likely, have been bombarded with messages about it from Mignogna's cultist fans). But why would they care? Toei doesn't own Funimation. They have no direct involvement with the management of the company or who they hire. They have a licensing and distribution deal - a mutually-beneficial deal going back decades. And as long as Funimation's products are successful and the merchandise is selling well (and everything would indicate both are the case), then they'd have to be insane to risk damaging that. Especially over a single voice actor who's only played a single minor character with like four appearances in the series.

[Kinokima]

Toei does care about Dragon Ball but I doubt they care about Vic. Vic probably has enough hubris to think they do though.

[Mooreish]

Toei does care about Dragon Ball but I doubt they care about Vic. Vic probably has enough hubris to think they do though.

Why are you assuming man? Why you gotta assume he has ego?

[Kinokima]

Toei does care about Dragon Ball but I doubt they care about Vic. Vic probably has enough hubris to think they do though.

Why are you assuming man? Why you gotta assume he has ego?

I am not assuming I KNOW he has an ego.



Edit: More from the I Stand With Vic crowd. It’s not a few bad people in the group it’s representative of the group as a whole.

https://twitter.com/dsieda/status/11148 ... 23427?s=21

[Cursed Lemon]

[Edit: More from the I Stand With Vic crowd. It’s not a few bad people in the group it’s representative of the group as a whole.

https://twitter.com/dsieda/status/11148 ... 23427?s=21

Wooow.

Woooooooooooooooooooooow.

EDIT: Out of the asshole playbook, always act like YOU'RE the victim.

[kemuri07]

It's gross for a number of reasons. It's one thing to be like, well I'm going to hold off from making any judgements because, as much as I know, it is a lot of he said-she said. But the whole "I side with Vic" stance...why? Because you like some of his work and you think that's enough that you know him as a person?

I am well aware of the fact that celebrities whose work I enjoy are also capable of doing horrible shit. Because they are people. The fact that people can't distance themselves from the art is kinda sad, but, well considering where we are as a society currently, it's also not that surprising.

What I'm saying is: people are really stupid.

[Bryesque]

[Edit: More from the I Stand With Vic crowd. It’s not a few bad people in the group it’s representative of the group as a whole.

https://twitter.com/dsieda/status/11148 ... 23427?s=21

Wooow.

Woooooooooooooooooooooow.

It's almost like they're just bad people.

It's gross for a number of reasons. It's one thing to be like, well I'm going to hold off from making any judgements because, as much as I know, it is a lot of he said-she said. But the whole "I side with Vic" stance...why? Because you like some of his work and you think that's enough that you know him as a person?

I am well aware of the fact that celebrities whose work I enjoy are also capable of doing horrible shit. Because they are people. The fact that people can't distance themselves from the art is kinda sad, but, well considering where we are as a society currently, it's also not that surprising.

What I'm saying is: people are really stupid.

This is exactly it. Like, I know what I think. I know that false allegations are extremely rare, and when this many people are making the same allegations spread out over this long a time period... there's something there. I can't ignore that. If someone else needs more to be convinced, I disagree, but I can accept that so long as they're reasonable and otherwise rational and aren't being an asshole about it.

But the sheer glee these people are taking in harassing, slandering, and demeaning anyone who isn't on their "team", simply because they believe the victims, tells you everything. They get off on the cruelty. They're bad people.

And they don't realize how awful they look to anyone outside their hate-bubble. This behaviour is revolting to anyone with an ounce of perspective in their lives.

[SaiyaSith]

And as long as Funimation's products are successful and the merchandise is selling well (and everything would indicate both are the case), then they'd have to be insane to risk damaging that.

One of the theories on why the new 30th anniversary set is being crowdfunded is because Funimation is hurting on money. With so many people publicly unsubscribing from their service after this whole Vic drama, and many people reporting Funimation turned off the "cancel subscription" button, it really makes you wonder just how well they're doing. Btw, this happened multiple times over the past couple months. The first time the "cancel" button didn't work and they blamed it on a "bug" and now this time the button was removed entirely...

https://twitter.com/Some_BlackGuy/statu ... 5531102208

I wouldn't even be mad if Toei made their own US studio and cut Funimation out completely. They have their own English twitter presence now so it's entirely possible that's their plan. They can end their relationship with Funimation at any time.

[Kinokima]

Funimation isn’t going anywhere and there is no evidence that they are doing poorly. Dragon Ball Broly was a big hit. My Hero Academia is a big hit and Fruits Basket also did very well in theaters.

What I find most hilarious is all the people randomly tweeting Nick Reketia in that tweet. A certain segment of the fandom is really obsessed with him.

[SaiyaSith]

Funimation isn’t going anywhere and there is no evidence that they are doing poorly.

Idk, all of the people publicly cancelling their subscriptions, and their "cancel subscription" button magically being turned off over 2 months, might be considered evidence. Having to crowdsource a half-assed lie of a product of one of the biggest franchises in the world might be considered evidence. They have proven to be an unprofessional and half-assed company who doesn't deserve being connected to Dragon Ball. Just check the latest story on the Kanzenshuu homepage:

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/2019/04/07/f ... t-trailer/

I'm rooting on Toei to come in and clean house. Maybe we'll get a quality home release for once. (without censorship, I hope...)

[Kinokima]

Funimation isn’t going anywhere and there is no evidence that they are doing poorly.

Idk, all of the people publicly cancelling their subscriptions, and their "cancel subscription" button magically being turned off over 2 months, might be considered evidence. Having to crowdsource a half-assed lie of a product of one of the biggest franchises in the world might be considered evidence. They have proven to be an unprofessional and half-assed company who doesn't deserve being connected to Dragon Ball. Just check the latest story on the Kanzenshuu homepage:

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/2019/04/07/f ... t-trailer/

I'm rooting on Toei to come in and clean house. Maybe we'll get a quality home release for once. (without censorship, I hope...)

Regardless of what I think about the new DBZ set (which I think is really bad and won’t support) get out of your ignorant bubble. The outrage nerds you follow are not representative of anime fandom as a whole


It’s funny how you say ppl are canceling their Funi subscription when I know a lot of people just picked it up because Funi has a strong line up this season. After not subscribing for years to Funi thanks to the Funi/CR deal I just picked up a sub.


Funi did not need to crowd fund DBZ because they are doing badly. That is the most ridiculous stance I’ve ever heard. Also hope you realize Toei US supported that release since they have been promoting and retweeting it.