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Re: Funimations 30th anniversary collectible home video release

Post by sintzu » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:03 am

Mr.Poot wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:44 pmI am not familiar with them are they in the works of getting it or something?
They're an anime ditributor in the UK. They got other Funi products so maybe one day they'll get the dragon boxes as well.
KBABZ wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:37 pmWhat would make Manga UK getting them to be a positive? (genuine question)
You could import them for a reasonable price.
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Re: Funimations 30th anniversary collectible home video release

Post by JohnnyCashKami » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:19 am

FUNimation ruined their chance to create a respectable DBZ 30th Anniversary but meh, wait for a new update. Can't be worse than that.
sintzu wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:34 pm
Mr.Poot wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:32 pm
sintzu wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:23 pm

It's essentially the season Blu-Rays in 4:3.
That sucks either I'll have to start hunting down the Dragon Box z set or I'll wait till some fan makes their own release. :(
You could wait for manga uk to get them. I don't know how likely it is but it's better than paying 200+ for each.
As if Manga UK would, they've proven they don't care about what fans say and going by who authors Dragon Ball DVDs, it would have needed to be authored by Madman and then passed to Manga UK. That's how the Dragon Ball Yellow Bricks, Dragon Ball Z Orange Bricks, Dragon Ball Z Digitally Remastered, Dragon Ball GT Green Bricks and Dragon Ball Kai Season Sets were, just to name a few.

You'd have better luck at hoping Madman would do it than a C-grade anime distributor.

Madman authored the following:
Dragon Ball Saga Sets [DVD]
Dragon Ball 3-Pack Movie Collection [DVD]
Dragon Ball Z Singles [DVD]
Dragon Ball Z Orange Bricks [DVD]
Dragon Ball Z Digitally Remastered Movies [BD/DVD]
Dragon Ball Z Level Sets [BD]
Dragon Ball Z Movie Singles [DVD]
Dragon Ball Z The Best of Goku / Vegeta [DVD]
Dragon Ball Z Season Sets [BD]
Dragon Ball GT Singles [DVD]
Dragon Ball GT Season Sets [DVD]
Dragon Ball Kai Parts [BD/DVD]
Dragon Ball Kai Season Sets [BD/DVD]
Dragon Ball Kai The Final Chapters [BD/DVD]

And so on.

FUNimation is NTSC R1, Madman is PAL R4 and Manga UK is PAL R2 so it's easy just to import the PAL converted version by Madman while the fans think Manga UK handles the discs' process.

Also, Madman could have authored the Dragon Box Z but that was R4 already as it is so who knows, maybe they thought they already made too many DBZ releases and they'd be correct.

Rock the Dragon, if I recall correctly, was also R4 but again, Madman made their own Ocean Dub DVD releases (DBZ Singles).

Anyway, it's a pity Madman licensed the Green Bricks or else Manga UK would have gotten the GT Singles and repackage them in only two boxes. Buying the GT Singles is a bit of a pain, unless you'd get them all at once from a collector for an inflated price.

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Re: Funimations 30th anniversary collectible home video release

Post by KBABZ » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:24 am

sintzu wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:03 am
Mr.Poot wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:44 pmI am not familiar with them are they in the works of getting it or something?
They're an anime ditributor in the UK. They got other Funi products so maybe one day they'll get the dragon boxes as well.
I dunno, no offense to Robo, but this feels like a "wait until Ocean airs Kai in Canada" situation.
Gaffer Tape wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:01 am In film restoration, the intent *should* be to mitigate as much of the latter definition as possible. Unfortunately, a lot of "remasters" do their best to obscure the former as much as possible. They're treating the wrong form of "old" in other words. They're not trying to repair the ravages of time to make it look as good as it did when it was brand new. They're trying to convince you that it is brand new... and failing miserably.
I've said it before but this is my problem with Kai's methodology as well when it came to the presentation and with adding new content in like the redone shots, the OP/EDs, the eyecatches and the music.

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Re: Funimations 30th anniversary collectible home video release

Post by Mr.Poot » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:29 am

JohnnyCashKami wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:19 am FUNimation ruined their chance to create a respectable DBZ 30th Anniversary but meh, wait for a new update. Can't be worse than that.
sintzu wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:34 pm
Mr.Poot wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:32 pm
That sucks either I'll have to start hunting down the Dragon Box z set or I'll wait till some fan makes their own release. :(
You could wait for manga uk to get them. I don't know how likely it is but it's better than paying 200+ for each.
As if Manga UK would, they've proven they don't care about what fans say and going by who authors Dragon Ball DVDs, it would have needed to be authored by Madman and then passed to Manga UK. That's how the Dragon Ball Yellow Bricks, Dragon Ball Z Orange Bricks, Dragon Ball Z Digitally Remastered, Dragon Ball GT Green Bricks and Dragon Ball Kai Season Sets were, just to name a few.

You'd have better luck at hoping Madman would do it than a C-grade anime distributor.
It's sad we have to hope a distributor will re-release a 15 year old Dvd box set just to get an a good and affordable release.

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:59 am

Yeah the ship has sailed on Manga UK releasing the Dragon Boxes. Maybe they would have if Madman released it first, but now their stuck with Funi's "remasters" because anything else would involve going above and beyond what they do to acquire Dragon Ball content. Maybe if enough people requested Madman to put the Dragon Boxes on SD Blu-Ray like Discotec did with Beyblade something could happen, still unlikely though.
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Post by lansing » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:26 am

And the milking continues lol.

I feel bad for the fans who really wanted a proper remaster because that reservation goal is likely to be reached thanks to the ignorant bunches. Paying $350 for a lottery ticket is so stupid.

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Post by Mr.Poot » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:22 am

Looks like they're almost there so we're screwed,we'll be stuck with another bad release.

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Post by sangofe » Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:53 am

Mr.Poot wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:22 am Looks like they're almost there so we're screwed,we'll be stuck with another bad release.
I just hope Toei does not end up spreading this horror internationally... Someone here was thinking they might do their own remaster but I honestly doubt that. Toei might just release this release everywhere in the world.

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Post by sintzu » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:04 am

sangofe wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:53 am
Mr.Poot wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:22 am Looks like they're almost there so we're screwed,we'll be stuck with another bad release.
I just hope Toei does not end up spreading this horror internationally... Someone here was thinking they might do their own remaster but I honestly doubt that. Toei might just release this release everywhere in the world.
Toei has their own release for everything else so I don't see why this will be any different. They already remastered the Bardock special which looked similar to their movie remasters so chances are the series will also get a similar remaster for Japan.

I think the only way for fans in America to get a proper version of Z is to import the current Japanses DVD singles or wait for Toei to release their own Blu-Rays.
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Post by SuperSaiyanPan » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:43 am

Is it possible they won't give us anymore information at all? Like it will just release and we will find out if it's a good remaster or not lol.

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Post by KBABZ » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:50 am

sintzu wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:04 am I think the only way for fans in America to get a proper version of Z is to import the current Japanses DVD singles or wait for Toei to release their own Blu-Rays.
That gives me a question to ask and ponder about: how do the Black Bricks compare to the Japanese Movie Blu-Rays?

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Post by lansing » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:59 am

SuperSaiyanPan wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:43 am Is it possible they won't give us anymore information at all? Like it will just release and we will find out if it's a good remaster or not lol.
I'm foreseeing Toei jumping ship if the backlash continues to grow lol.

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Post by sintzu » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:05 am

KBABZ wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:50 amThat gives me a question to ask and ponder about: how do the Black Bricks compare to the Japanese Movie Blu-Rays?
I don't have pictures but the difference is night and day.
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Post by sangofe » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:09 am

sintzu wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:04 am
sangofe wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:53 am
Mr.Poot wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:22 am Looks like they're almost there so we're screwed,we'll be stuck with another bad release.
I just hope Toei does not end up spreading this horror internationally... Someone here was thinking they might do their own remaster but I honestly doubt that. Toei might just release this release everywhere in the world.
Toei has their own release for everything else so I don't see why this will be any different. They already remastered the Bardock special which looked similar to their movie remasters so chances are the series will also get a similar remaster for Japan.

I think the only way for fans in America to get a proper version of Z is to import the current Japanses DVD singles or wait for Toei to release their own Blu-Rays.
It's different because we're talking 291 episodes vs 16 movies. And it's probably not Toei who remastered the Bardock TV special.

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Post by Mr.Poot » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:20 am

Maybe they'll address the backlash if we get loud enough like dislike bomb the trailer.

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KBABZ wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:50 am That gives me a question to ask and ponder about: how do the Black Bricks compare to the Japanese Movie Blu-Rays?
Funi movie bluray vs Toei Amazon, dont have any toei bluray footage unfortunately but this highlights the colour differences between the 2 masters.
https://diff.pics/xIls6dMDj-KV/1
https://diff.pics/aEmUwNF3vI0n/1
https://diff.pics/GTMoR_yeC_Tn/1
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Re: Funimations 30th anniversary collectible home video release

Post by KBABZ » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:04 am

sangofe wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:09 am It's different because we're talking 291 episodes vs 16 movies. And it's probably not Toei who remastered the Bardock TV special.
We theorized a while back that it might have been several teams who were each assigned different films, hence why the quality seemed to go up and down yet with several having the same visual quirks.
Mr.Poot wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:20 am Maybe they'll address the backlash if we get loud enough like dislike bomb the trailer.
Might be more limited than you think considering anyone outside the US won't be able to load the entire page.
jaisonas wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:23 am
KBABZ wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:50 am That gives me a question to ask and ponder about: how do the Black Bricks compare to the Japanese Movie Blu-Rays?
Funi movie bluray vs Toei Amazon, dont have any toei bluray footage unfortunately but this highlights the colour differences between the 2 masters.
https://diff.pics/xIls6dMDj-KV/1
https://diff.pics/aEmUwNF3vI0n/1
https://diff.pics/GTMoR_yeC_Tn/1
Well I was hoping for some more descriptive comparisons. Screenshot comparisons I think would only help with the Ha La opening. I am aware of the massive colour differences Funi have when they handle the mastering though. Not just the usual "crushed blacks and WHITE whites", but also just straight-up altering the colours, particularly the greens:

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Post by Mr.Poot » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:35 am

KBABZ wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:04 am
Mr.Poot wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:20 am Maybe they'll address the backlash if we get loud enough like dislike bomb the trailer.
Might be more limited than you think considering anyone outside the US won't be able to load the entire page.
I was talking about the trailer on Youtube just get everyone here from the U.S. to dislike the video and hope someone at funi will see it.

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Post by VDenter » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:07 am

Mr.Poot wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:20 am Maybe they'll address the backlash if we get loud enough like dislike bomb the trailer.
Has that ever worked with Funimation? There was a huge backlash with the Orange Bricks and the Season sets and yet nothing happened.

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Post by Mr.Poot » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:29 am

VDenter wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:07 am
Mr.Poot wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:20 am Maybe they'll address the backlash if we get loud enough like dislike bomb the trailer.
Has that ever worked with Funimation? There was a huge backlash with the Orange Bricks and the Season sets and yet nothing happened.
That was way before social media was mainstream for companies to have, These days it'd be hard to get away without addressing backlash if it was loud enough.

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