Funimation's 30th anniversary collectible home video release

[JohnnyCashKami]

This release is gonna be dragon boxes 2.0

Not even close.

[Char Aznable]

This release is gonna be dragon boxes 2.0

Not even close.

In terms of cost on the secondary market, it's possible just because of the limited number. It won't reach $1,000 like the Dragon Boxes, but I could see it hitting around $500. Rock the Dragon surprisingly took off in value after it left the market, which is a nightmare considering you're guaranteed at least two or more scratched discs thanks to the packaging style.

[eledoremassis02]

Plus, even if this WAS a proper release, people would still complain that it is not a readily available set that's affordable.

Now you're just making stuff up. You have no idea how much time, money, patience and love Dragon Ball fans have for the franchise.

Id agree, but the failure of the level sets beg to differ on all of those. :/ I think I'm forever gonna be bitter about them canceling those

So those snapshots are from the O'hara interview on the season sets and it seemed they DNRed the 4x3 footage then cropped, but I'm not sure it's the same master because the whites arent as blown out, unless the had the work files and regraded them?

[JohnnyCashKami]

That shot of Gohan is a perfect example of DNR destroying details bug some think it's "OK" or even "pretty good". Those people don't get this is an old show and don't know what it's supposed to look like.

[eledoremassis02]

That shot of Gohan is a perfect example of DNR destroying details bug some think it's "OK" or even "pretty good". Those people don't get this is an old show and don't know what it's supposed to look like.

Agreed, honestly, I don't think Bardock looks much better outside of them having a better print (less grain to DNR out). And from what I've seen of the trunk special screen caps, the lack of color correction is just as annoying...

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Word of advice to anyone who doesn't understand all of this discussion, do not worry. This additional footage will not dramatically change your viewing experience in any way, shape or form.


We will feel an incredible satisfaction if we get a proper 4:3 set, but something gives me the feeling that it would ware off fast because its really not that important. Kind of like a dog chasing its tail, it wouldn't know what to do with it if it caught it, and if he did, he would realize how pointless it really was.

Plus, even if this WAS a proper release, people would still complain that it is not a readily available set that's affordable. Same with the DragonBoxes. The proper version EXISTS, and its BEEN released in the past. The problem with the Dboxes is how difficult they are to get, and it's going to be the exact same with this set. It's a COLLECTORS item, get that through your head. In no way shape or form should the most popular animated show be shown in its original state, nobody likes 4:3, and nobody typically likes grainy images either. No one on here will see this though and will just push their agenda forward. It's best for you to accept the facts like I have and stop being antagonistic. I use to defend the 4:3 'Proper' release until I realized that I looked like a fool.

Some people don't want things to change, and that's fine, but Dragon Ball adapted to the future with 16:9 and an updated vibrant pallet and it's worked wonders for them. It helped them get the show past that old fashioned look that we all love here.

What a tool

Yeah, no. I don't think Bardo117 realizes that the show is truly intended to be seen in 4:3 and cropping it to fake widescreen like FUNimation did on the Orange Bricks/Season BD's was an IMO stupid and pointless decision. Where the hell did he get the notion that people dislike 4:3 and it shouldn't be shown how it originally was??? Answer me that.

[JohnnyCashKami]

If Bardo wants Z cropped, there's Kai & Kai:TFC. What FUNimation made was a fake 16:9 AR for Z.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

If Bardo wants Z cropped, there's Kai & Kai:TFC. What FUNimation made was a fake 16:9 AR for Z.

Exactly, those two are where the 16:9 aspect ratio actually makes sense given the more modernized intention as HD products although a 4:3 version was preserved as well, but the original Z series was in no way intended to be seen with 20% or more of the vertical resolution chopped off.

[eledoremassis02]

If Bardo wants Z cropped, there's Kai & Kai:TFC. What FUNimation made was a fake 16:9 AR for Z.

Exactly, those two are where the 16:9 aspect ratio actually makes sense given the more modernized intention as HD products although a 4:3 version was preserved as well, but the original Z series was in no way intended to be seen with 20% or more of the vertical resolution chopped off.

Which frustrates me cause people still prefer it 4x3 atleast the Japanese market had an option tho you wouldnt get it HD

[Char Aznable]

I would’ve accepted Kai Blu-rays being 16:9, that’s how it was presented. But Z, that we have to do 16:9. It makes no sense.

[eledoremassis02]

I would’ve accepted Kai Blu-rays being 16:9, that’s how it was presented. But Z, that we have to do 16:9. It makes no sense.

It doesn't, but the can of worms open and it seems like closing it is hard. I wonder if there was any chance the Orange bricks woulda been 4x3?

[dbzj14]

Does anyone think an orchestrated plea to Funimation to reverse the DNR before this set is released would be effective?

I mean having all the big YouTubers like animeajay, geekdom101, etc.., and the community voice to Funimation on a specific day that if they truly want this to be a set for the hard core fans that they need to reverse or lessen the DNR.

I know people have been and currently are posting on Funimation a twitter and other social media account. But I mean one big push by everyone.

Obviously whoever at Funimation that makes these decisions either hasn’t been listening to the community, doesn’t care, or is taking advice from someone who claims to know what the community wants but has no clue.

Thankfully I purchased the dragon boxes when they were being released but I was really hoping this would be truly be the ultimate release Funimation hyped it up to be.

I’m just ranting but I wish there was something we could do. I’ve been a fan like most of you ever since the show came out and I am just beyond frustrated with this.

[JohnnyCashKami]

If Bardo wants Z cropped, there's Kai & Kai:TFC. What FUNimation made was a fake 16:9 AR for Z.

Exactly, those two are where the 16:9 aspect ratio actually makes sense given the more modernized intention as HD products although a 4:3 version was preserved as well, but the original Z series was in no way intended to be seen with 20% or more of the vertical resolution chopped off.

Which frustrates me cause people still prefer it 4x3 atleast the Japanese market had an option tho you wouldnt get it HD

Germany and France both received Kai and Kai: TFC in 16:9 AR. France has more or less the definitive HD 16:9 AR version of Kai while Germany of Kai: TFC.

A casual fan would just order the FUNimation Kai Season Sets and not care about the different versions out there or the music.

[eledoremassis02]

Exactly, those two are where the 16:9 aspect ratio actually makes sense given the more modernized intention as HD products although a 4:3 version was preserved as well, but the original Z series was in no way intended to be seen with 20% or more of the vertical resolution chopped off.

Which frustrates me cause people still prefer it 4x3 atleast the Japanese market had an option tho you wouldnt get it HD

Germany and France both received Kai and Kai: TFC in 16:9 AR. France has more or less the definitive HD 16:9 AR version of Kai while Germany of Kai: TFC.

A casual fan would just order the FUNimation Kai Season Sets and not care about the different versions out there or the music.

Are they region locked? I just got the single Japanese DVD of volume one Whats the difference between France and Germany?

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Exactly, those two are where the 16:9 aspect ratio actually makes sense given the more modernized intention as HD products although a 4:3 version was preserved as well, but the original Z series was in no way intended to be seen with 20% or more of the vertical resolution chopped off.

Which frustrates me cause people still prefer it 4x3 atleast the Japanese market had an option tho you wouldnt get it HD

Germany and France both received Kai and Kai: TFC in 16:9 AR. France has more or less the definitive HD 16:9 AR version of Kai while Germany of Kai: TFC.

A casual fan would just order the FUNimation Kai Season Sets and not care about the different versions out there or the music.

It was only here in the States that the aspect ratio for Kai (1.0 at least) was the same both ways, so 4:3 on both formats which was the complete opposite of how Japan released the.series.

[Forte224]

What's this about Kai being fine in 16:9? I mean, I realize the framing was done with more care than the FUNi OBs and Blu-rays, but how can anyone say it's fine? It's still footage that was intended for 4:3 being cropped down, which just shouldn't happen.

[eledoremassis02]

What's this about Kai being fine in 16:9? I mean, I realize the framing was done with more care than the FUNi OBs and Blu-rays, but how can anyone say it's fine? It's still footage that was intended for 4:3 being cropped down, which just shouldn't happen.

I agree, honestly, I think Kai should have been reanimated but clearly, that did not happen. The people who worked on kai made sure to crop carefully (and I don't use this in the FUNi sense) so it's a much more successful take and did make it feel fresh. Where as for Z everything about it feels old because nothing about it is new. At the very least, I can rewatch the re-dub/2000's dub cropped. But with the Japanese version of Z it's 4:3 all the way.

[VDenter]

What's this about Kai being fine in 16:9? I mean, I realize the framing was done with more care than the FUNi OBs and Blu-rays, but how can anyone say it's fine? It's still footage that was intended for 4:3 being cropped down, which just shouldn't happen.

In the case of Kai, you could make an argument that it's entirely it's own entity and that the show (Kai) was intended to be seen in 16:9, while Z, in 4:3. Even if Kai is using the footage from Z. Those awful redrawn scenes in Kai are there because they had to frame the show in 16:9 and those shots still remain there even if you watch it in 4:3. The entire pitch for Kai was that it's a "Refreshed" version of DBZ, in HD and that came with the show being broadcast originally in 16:9

Like everything with Kai, it's a bit of a mess. I don' think there is one single right answer as to how it was meant to be seen.

[JohnnyCashKami]

Are they region locked? I just got the single Japanese DVD of volume one Whats the difference between France and Germany?

1. Don't know if it's Region A compatible so someone who physically owns them would have to verify.
2. The quality of Kai released on the French Blu-rays is like it aired in Japan, but the quality is vastly superior, of course. The German Blu-rays of Kai were a mixture of two different sources, they used the Japanese for about the first 52 episodes and then an international (Z Kai) for the rest but the latter looks blurry, darkened and kind of unacceptable.

Still, Kazè Germany redeemed itself with the release of Kai: TFC on Blu-ray. It's easily the best out of all Western Kai: TFC home media releases (it used Japanese credits and Japanese episode titles).

What's this about Kai being fine in 16:9? I mean, I realize the framing was done with more care than the FUNi OBs and Blu-rays, but how can anyone say it's fine? It's still footage that was intended for 4:3 being cropped down, which just shouldn't happen.

Q-TEC remastered Z in HD and they made two versions, one in 16:9 for Japanese TV broadcast and a 4:3 AR for home media release. 4:3 AR is the proper AR of Kai but the 16:9 AR version was released on DVD in Japan and Germany and France both received Kai in 16:9 AR too to publish it on Blu-ray/DVD. Plus, the purpose of Kai was to make it a modernized, fresh edition of Z.

Catalunya and Galicia dubbed Kai and Kai: TFC but it wasn't released on BD/DVD. And yes, they too received the 16:9 AR version of Kai.

Everyone got Kai: TFC in 16:9 AR but it's worth mentioning that the international version of Kai 2014 (aka TFC) has slightly more footage than the Japanese.

[Forte224]

Making old footage feel "modernized and fresh" by cropping it to 16:9 is exactly what everyone criticizes FUNimation for. It's a bit inconsistent to exclude Kai and Toei from that criticism in my opinion. If they wanted 16:9 they should have reanimated it from scratch, not use footage that was specifically intended for 4:3.