"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[S3 Hendrix]

It seems that Gohan Xeno SSJ4 has a team attack with GT Gohan SSJ4 and is cracking me up.

What? His ultimate unit is Gohan: xeno ssj4(himself) Goku Xeno ssj4 And Vegeta Xeno ssj4.

[Dragotaker]

yay gohan: xeno ssj4(even tho IMO Trunks: xeno should have gotten ssj4 first)

Doesn't matter really since SS4 Gohan already exist since years ago, this is just like when they gave it to Xeno Goku , what i'm trying to say is we still could have a new SS4 this year easily in November like always and Trunks would be a lock if it wasn't for Cumber who very rapidly became stronger to the point his latest form is a Full Power SS3 which means they are obviously holding back for SS4 at some point, so much i would say he is most likely which is a real shame because even though i really like Cumber, Trunks has been around for longer and i really wanna se how he looks like in official media, but still he will get it at some point either way he's just too much of a popular character for not to and once he does Goten is really gonna be outclassed by literally everybody on the team, before at least he was somehow on par with Gohan but in less than 2 months he got both SS3 and SS4, i'm convinced the people in chargue just straight up dislike him and unlike Gohan he doesn't have a fanbase to fall back.

[Noitsnothim]

yay gohan: xeno ssj4(even tho IMO Trunks: xeno should have gotten ssj4 first)

Doesn't matter really since SS4 Gohan already exist since years ago, this is just like when they gave it to Xeno Goku , what i'm trying to say is we still could have a new SS4 this year easily in November like always and Trunks would be a lock if it wasn't for Cumber who very rapidly became stronger to the point his latest form is a Full Power SS3 which means they are obviously holding back for SS4 at some point, so much i would say he is most likely which is a real shame because even though i really like Cumber, Trunks has been around for longer and i really wanna se how he looks like in official media, but still he will get it at some point either way he's just too much of a popular character for not to and once he does Goten is really gonna be outclassed by literally everybody on the team, before at least he was somehow on par with Gohan but in less than 2 months he got both SS3 and SS4, i'm convinced the people in chargue just straight up dislike him and unlike Gohan he doesn't have a fanbase to fall back.

it's either between Trunks, Goten, Or Cumber

[Gohan123]

I just hope there will some new form like UI Xeno Goku .

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

With how many focus Cumber is getting and the way the manga artist had to come with a way to give him his tail back, my money is on Cumber being this year's SSJ4.

And personally, I would rather keep the Xenos from getting any of the Super transformations since it would mean that SSJ4 would become outclassed and therefore useless.

[Grand Marshal 1]

With how many focus Cumber is getting and the way the manga artist had to come with a way to give him his tail back, my money is on Cumber being this year's SSJ4.

And personally, I would rather keep the Xenos from getting any of the Super transformations since it would mean that SSJ4 would become outclassed and therefore useless.

Not to mention Cumber's history. The dude is capable of controlling himself while in Golden Great Ape.

[Noitsnothim]

With how many focus Cumber is getting and the way the manga artist had to come with a way to give him his tail back, my money is on Cumber being this year's SSJ4.

And personally, I would rather keep the Xenos from getting any of the Super transformations since it would mean that SSJ4 would become outclassed and therefore useless.

I agree with you however I feel that they should have branched out all the xeno's getting their transformations like in OG Z and Trunks should've been the first one to get SS4

[Dragotaker]

With how many focus Cumber is getting and the way the manga artist had to come with a way to give him his tail back, my money is on Cumber being this year's SSJ4.

And personally, I would rather keep the Xenos from getting any of the Super transformations since it would mean that SSJ4 would become outclassed and therefore useless.

I agree with you however I feel that they should have branched out all the xeno's getting their transformations like in OG Z and Trunks should've been the first one to get SS4

They really should but Cumber has basically peaked where he is and his opponets Jiren and UI Goku are much much stronger, he kinda needs it at this point, now we also have 3 stories going about at the same time in Heroes, so maybe even though it's a really small posibility like almost nonexistent but have both Cumber and Xeno Trunks go SS4 at the same time in their respective timelines??? yeah i know really crazy like we are not even sure and maybe they will take a break from SS4 like they did 2 years ago.

[Rakurai]

Y'all are tripping with these SSJ4-in-line predictions.

Turles is going to get SSJ4 because he's basically another SSJ4 Goku doppelganger like Bardock. They just need to slap on a red scouter and dark skin palette and he's basically ready. In other words he's low effort just like Dark Gogeta and SSJ4 XGohan but it'll still sell because it's goddamn SSJ4.

With how many focus Cumber is getting and the way the manga artist had to come with a way to give him his tail back, my money is on Cumber being this year's SSJ4.

And personally, I would rather keep the Xenos from getting any of the Super transformations since it would mean that SSJ4 would become outclassed and therefore useless.

I disagree that SSJ4 would become outmatched or useless if that were the case but that discussion isn't for here.

[Dragotaker]

Y'all are tripping with these SSJ4-in-line predictions.

Turles is going to get SSJ4 because he's basically another SSJ4 Goku doppelganger like Bardock. They just need to slap on a red scouter and dark skin palette and he's basically ready. In other words he's low effort just like Dark Gogeta and SSJ4 XGohan but it'll still sell because it's goddamn SSJ4.

With how many focus Cumber is getting and the way the manga artist had to come with a way to give him his tail back, my money is on Cumber being this year's SSJ4.

And personally, I would rather keep the Xenos from getting any of the Super transformations since it would mean that SSJ4 would become outclassed and therefore useless.

I disagree that SSJ4 would become outmatched or useless if that were the case but that discussion isn't for here.

Da Hell??? how is Dark Gogeta low effort??? if anything is the best characters design they have come up right now, you make it sound like if they just took Gogeta and swap his hair and eye colors like with those ''Evil Goku'' AF recolors they used to do years ago.

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

Turles doesn't even have Super Saiyan and from the looks of it, is low on popularity among Japanese fans. There's no way he's getting SSJ4.

Bardock got it because he's incredibly popular and pairing him up with one of the most popular forms was a no-brainer. And given how he's one of the few Heroes originals to reliably move merchandise, they were right.

Now about SSJ4 becoming out classed, I don't mean just power wise, the way the franchise works is to simply give the focus to the new shiny transformation. Giving any of the Super transformations to the Xenos would mean we would get a bunch of missions showing them off while SSJ4 falls to the wayside and with no presence on Super to balance things out, it would be ignored. Is what happened to SS2,3 and God after all.

[Rakurai]

Da Hell??? how is Dark Gogeta low effort??? if anything is the best characters design they have come up right now, you make it sound like if they just took Gogeta and swap his hair and eye colors like with those ''Evil Goku'' AF recolors they used to do years ago.

Well they definitely used a Gogeta model for sure, and probably not even the right one. He's got ripped pants even though he's supposed to be GT Gogeta. SSJ4 XGogeta is the one with ripped pants. But I was mainly joking.

Turles doesn't even have Super Saiyan and from the looks of it, is low on popularity among Japanese fans. There's no way he's getting SSJ4.

Bardock got it because he's incredibly popular and pairing him up with one of the most popular forms was a no-brainer. And given how he's one of the few Heroes originals to reliably move merchandise, they were right.

Now about SSJ4 becoming out classed, I don't mean just power wise, the way the franchise works is to simply give the focus to the new shiny transformation. Giving any of the Super transformations to the Xenos would mean we would get a bunch of missions showing them off while SSJ4 falls to the wayside and with no presence on Super to balance things out, it would be ignored. Is what happened to SS2,3 and God after all.

Again, joking. I don't actually think Turles will be getting SSJ4 anytime soon. Although he would be a good dark horse candidate.

Part of the reason of including XGoku and XVegeta in the Prison Planet arc was to demonstrate do a SSJ4-SSB comparison, and to show that both forms are more or less equivalent in terms of standing. If the Xeno gang were to obtain god ki, I would guess it's to combine god ki with SSJ4 and perhaps make that the equivalent of UI in terms of standing or something.

[Dragotaker]

Turles doesn't even have Super Saiyan and from the looks of it, is low on popularity among Japanese fans. There's no way he's getting SSJ4.

Bardock got it because he's incredibly popular and pairing him up with one of the most popular forms was a no-brainer. And given how he's one of the few Heroes originals to reliably move merchandise, they were right.

Now about SSJ4 becoming out classed, I don't mean just power wise, the way the franchise works is to simply give the focus to the new shiny transformation. Giving any of the Super transformations to the Xenos would mean we would get a bunch of missions showing them off while SSJ4 falls to the wayside and with no presence on Super to balance things out, it would be ignored. Is what happened to SS2,3 and God after all.

Well after Trunks and Cumber are done with it they will definetly continue giving the form to more people right??? there are plenty of saiyans left for that even though almost every single one of them are really low on popularity, i was thinking about Goku Black since he is so popular and i know he has Rose already but is heroes so you never know, other than him i really can't see anybody else being promoted for that really big spotlight, if Trunks has it i guess Gotenks could happen also but then i just know they would somehow make it so Trunks and Goten fuse first and then become SS4 as to not give Goten that form because reasons

[Rakurai]

Well after Trunks and Cumber are done with it they will definetly continue giving the form to more people right??? there are plenty of saiyans left for that even though almost every single one of them are really low on popularity, i was thinking about Goku Black since he is so popular and i know he has Rose already but is heroes so you never know, other than him i really can't see anybody else being promoted for that really big spotlight, if Trunks has it i guess Gotenks could happen also but then i just know they would somehow make it so Trunks and Goten fuse first and then become SS4 as to not give Goten that form because reasons

A SSJ4 Trunks would be really unique since he has gray/blue hair, his fur might not even be a shade of red. Mira already showed us that but technically he's not classified as a Saiyan so...

Black might be the first one to combine SSJ4 with god ki if they ever do implement it. Divinity is his shtick after all.

The first female SSJ4 would definitely be big, like Caulifla or Kale. Kale would probably be easier to design since a SSJ4 Broly model already exists. I personally hope for a SSJ4 Caulifla.

Baby Vegeta would actually be a cool candidate imo. His SSJ4 would likely be based on Super Baby Vegeta 2's design. Now he's someone I could get behind.

[Dragotaker]

Well after Trunks and Cumber are done with it they will definetly continue giving the form to more people right??? there are plenty of saiyans left for that even though almost every single one of them are really low on popularity, i was thinking about Goku Black since he is so popular and i know he has Rose already but is heroes so you never know, other than him i really can't see anybody else being promoted for that really big spotlight, if Trunks has it i guess Gotenks could happen also but then i just know they would somehow make it so Trunks and Goten fuse first and then become SS4 as to not give Goten that form because reasons

A SSJ4 Trunks would be really unique since he has gray/blue hair, his fur might not even be a shade of red. Mira already showed us that but technically he's not classified as a Saiyan so...

Black might be the first one to combine SSJ4 with god ki if they ever do implement it. Divinity is his shtick after all.

The first female SSJ4 would definitely be big, like Caulifla or Kale. Kale would probably be easier to design since a SSJ4 Broly model already exists. I personally hope for a SSJ4 Caulifla.

Baby Vegeta would actually be a cool candidate imo. His SSJ4 would likely be based on Super Baby Vegeta 2's design. Now he's someone I could get behind.

Wouldn't count on Caulifla or Kale anytime soon after all they are from Super where SS4 doesn't exist for now at least, they have better chances of SS3 or even SSG i think, totally forgot about Baby Vegeta like that's such an obvious one that i also have always wanted to see but then again not anytime soon for sure.

[Saiga]

What do you know, I was just thinking that I wanted to see SS4 Xeno Gohan since we've already had GT Gohan get it in this game and it'd be very relevant.

That's really cool, I wonder if the story will include it, and maybe have him obtain it for the first time (instead of XGoku/Vegeta having it before their first appearances).

[sunsetshimmer]

The first female SSJ4 would definitely be big, like Caulifla or Kale. Kale would probably be easier to design since a SSJ4 Broly model already exists. I personally hope for a SSJ4 Caulifla.

Baby Vegeta would actually be a cool candidate imo. His SSJ4 would likely be based on Super Baby Vegeta 2's design. Now he's someone I could get behind.

If they ever give Kale a SSJ4 form PLEASE don't put it over her berserk form.
Please make her look like in base form which is the only version of her i find good looking. Or at least her SSJ form.
I don't want SSJ4 Broly with lipstick.

But yeah, it would be cool to see Caulifla of Kefla SSJ4.
I don't expect Pan to get it because she doesn't even have SSJ yet for some dumb reason. GIVE HER SSJ. New arc taking place in GT timeline is the perfect chance for that.

[Rinsankajugin]

Hold up, doesn't Xeno Gohan have Ultimate as a transformation, as in his absolute most power? Does this mean he's stacking SS4 on top of that or what?

[Grand Marshal 1]

Hold up, doesn't Xeno Gohan have Ultimate as a transformation, as in his absolute most power? Does this mean he's stacking SS4 on top of that or what?

I am not sure, but that is kind off contradictory. The Ultimate form is mean to bring forth the unleashed potential of the user, beyond his 100% (as SSJ3 would). However, SSJ4 also has the potential unlocking feature. I doubt that it is as great as the one from the ultimate form, but SSJ4 is also referred to as an "ultimate" form.

Ultimately (see what I did there ) I doubt that the two would be stacked together, but if Gohan somehow stacked them, we would get an Ultimate SSJ4 whose infinite potential would be evident by Gohan's fight, in which he should get inconceivably stronger by the second.

[Saiga]

Super Saiyan 3 was also described in the same way as Super Saiyan 4 - drawing out all of a Saiyan's dormant power.

I don't put too much stock in those statements, and Gohan received ultimate before SS4 was ever a thing. He has more dormant power than either Goku or Vegeta, so it wouldn't make sense if his Ultimate state brought out more dormant power than those transformations - to reconcile those I'd have to say that his Ultimate state just means that he has all of his hypothetical SS3 power, and he'd still become stronger by being a SS4.