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Post by Dark_Tzitzimine » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:26 am

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http://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh/cardli ... ory=418108


Gogeta BR being in the same pose as Gogeta GT's promo card is a neat detail.

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Post by Grimlock » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:57 pm

Wilderness wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:49 amso where is mainline Trunks throughout all this? It seems weird that we have everyone else but him.
He's at home playing with Goten. Well, it's as weird as his absences in Movie 15 and the Dragon Ball Super movie. Only Goku and Vegeta get the fun.
Wilderness wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:49 amShould we not have two version of Trunks - mainline and future - for the Time Patrol?
Present Trunks never commited the crime of time travelling. Also, he's a teenager kid at this point.

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Post by Melkaniator » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:16 pm

Rakurai wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:39 am
They may not be straight incarnations of their GT anime counterparts but it's clear that they are based off of that timeline and the old Z movies
Indeed, like I said, they went through some of GT events.
mahakaishin1991 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:49 am
Oh no, well I guess that Nappa is a copy of Freeza cause they both bald lolololol
Lolololol indeed as your comparison makes zero sense.

Nappa has mustache, eyes, ears and skin are completely different, he lacks crystal-thingy in head, the full head is completely different, it's clearly not the same thing with the SS3 Goku and Cumber comparison.
mahakaishin1991 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:49 am thats your logic. Cumber has nothing in common with goku
Except he does, and your comparison doesn't work, thus nothing changed.

But, it's okay, you don't need to agree, I'm just happy he's not part of the canon, and that Akira was wise enough to changed Broly's hair before adding him to the "canon" making it a lil bit more unique.
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Post by Rinsankajugin » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:07 pm

Dark_Tzitzimine wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:29 am Since SDBH ended with the 8th set , is likely that Universe Mission will end at 8 as well.
Actually, there's a pattern when it comes to Heroes' Missions. There were 8 original missions, 10 Galaxy Missions, 8 Jakryuu Missions, 10 God Missions and 8 SDBH missions. If Universe Mission follows that pattern, then it should end on UM10.

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Post by ankokudaishogun » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:17 pm

SS4 Gohan:Xeno's attack is Kyōkugen Masenretsu shōheki (極限魔閃烈衝壁), which is Gohan:Xeno's attack but with the "Extreme"(極限) prefix
Not sure if it has an official translation.

Interesting to see Dark Gogeta is going quite wild without discerning friends and foes, reminds a lot of Kid Buu.

SS3 Goku , SS3 Gotenks and SSVegetto are swinging Buu
Goku Blue is swinging Cumber
Broly:BR is swinging Goku
Cell is swinging Gohan

I cannot identify those swinged by Vegeta Blue and Cumber

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Post by Dark_Tzitzimine » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:23 pm

Rinsankajugin wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:07 pm
Dark_Tzitzimine wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:29 am Since SDBH ended with the 8th set , is likely that Universe Mission will end at 8 as well.
Actually, there's a pattern when it comes to Heroes' Missions. There were 8 original missions, 10 Galaxy Missions, 8 Jakryuu Missions, 10 God Missions and 8 SDBH missions. If Universe Mission follows that pattern, then it should end on UM10.
Interesting, two more sets would make feasible to finish the current storylines.
ankokudaishogun wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:17 pm SS4 Gohan:Xeno's attack is Kyōkugen Masenretsu shōheki (極限魔閃烈衝壁), which is Gohan:Xeno's attack but with the "Extreme"(極限) prefix
Not sure if it has an official translation.

Interesting to see Dark Gogeta is going quite wild without discerning friends and foes, reminds a lot of Kid Buu.

SS3 Goku , SS3 Gotenks and SSVegetto are swinging Buu
Goku Blue is swinging Cumber
Broly:BR is swinging Goku
Cell is swinging Gohan

I cannot identify those swinged by Vegeta Blue and Cumber
Cumber is swinging around CC Vegito Blue. But yeah, no idea about Vegeta Blue.

EDIT: Seems that Vegeta Blue is manhandling Mecha Zamasu.

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Post by sunsetshimmer » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:05 pm

Dark_Tzitzimine wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:23 pm
ankokudaishogun wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:17 pm I cannot identify those swinged by Vegeta Blue and Cumber
Cumber is swinging around CC Vegito Blue. But yeah, no idea about Vegeta Blue.
It looks like Oren/Kamin leg but they have white pads on legs, not red. And they are not so muscled lol. It kinda looks like Super Baby 2 leg but it wouldn't make sense for him to be there so it has to be someone else obviously.

Maybe it's new character or new form of one of villains in this arc. Maybe Kamin or Oren will survive, defuse and one of them will take over someone. Vegeta seems to really hate them so it would make sense.
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Post by Rinsankajugin » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:31 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:05 pm
Dark_Tzitzimine wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:23 pm
ankokudaishogun wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:17 pm I cannot identify those swinged by Vegeta Blue and Cumber
Cumber is swinging around CC Vegito Blue. But yeah, no idea about Vegeta Blue.
It looks like Oren/Kamin leg but they have white pads on legs, not red. And they are not so muscled lol. It kinda looks like Super Baby 2 leg but it wouldn't make sense for him to be there so it has to be someone else obviously.

Maybe it's new character or new form of one of villains in this arc. Maybe Kamin or Oren will survive, defuse and one of them will take over someone. Vegeta seems to really hate them so it would make sense.
Vegeta is swinging around Punished Zamasu, that's his armor.

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Post by Dragotaker » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:24 pm

Rakurai wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:59 am Universe Mission 8 Promotional Trailer just dropped!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGYgWeFp_ow

The trailer looks absolutely HOT. Dunno if it's just me, but the quality and animation feels much better than the last one. Maybe it's because of those impact frames. That Dark Gogeta and SSJ4 XGohan, whew. :thumbup:
So the only new thing in this chapter SS4 Xeno Gohan which we already knew since at least last week, kinda dissapointed tbh, hoping we get something more like when Dark Gogeta appeared for the first time.

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Post by sunsetshimmer » Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:04 pm

Rinsankajugin wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:31 pm
sunsetshimmer wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:05 pm
Dark_Tzitzimine wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:23 pm

Cumber is swinging around CC Vegito Blue. But yeah, no idea about Vegeta Blue.
It looks like Oren/Kamin leg but they have white pads on legs, not red. And they are not so muscled lol. It kinda looks like Super Baby 2 leg but it wouldn't make sense for him to be there so it has to be someone else obviously.

Maybe it's new character or new form of one of villains in this arc. Maybe Kamin or Oren will survive, defuse and one of them will take over someone. Vegeta seems to really hate them so it would make sense.
Vegeta is swinging around Punished Zamasu, that's his armor.
It doesn't look like Zamasu at all. He doesn't have tight pants and red plates on boots.
Also i don't remember this mecha form having any official name.
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Post by mahakaishin1991 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:48 pm

Melkaniator wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:16 pm
Rakurai wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:39 am
They may not be straight incarnations of their GT anime counterparts but it's clear that they are based off of that timeline and the old Z movies
Indeed, like I said, they went through some of GT events.
mahakaishin1991 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:49 am
Oh no, well I guess that Nappa is a copy of Freeza cause they both bald lolololol
Lolololol indeed as your comparison makes zero sense.

Nappa has mustache, eyes, ears and skin are completely different, he lacks crystal-thingy in head, the full head is completely different, it's clearly not the same thing with the SS3 Goku and Cumber comparison.
mahakaishin1991 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:49 am thats your logic. Cumber has nothing in common with goku
Except he does, and your comparison doesn't work, thus nothing changed.

But, it's okay, you don't need to agree, I'm just happy he's not part of the canon, and that Akira was wise enough to changed Broly's hair before adding him to the "canon" making it a lil bit more unique.
I see you dont understand sarcasm. Cumber still doesnt look like Goku.

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Post by Rakurai » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:00 pm

Wilderness wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:49 am I have 2 things I'd like to pick anyone else's brains about...

PsiDevilman and GreatDevilman are two separate devils from the Dark Empire, however seem to have no relation to Spike the Devil Man, yet look strikingly similar to him. Is this true? Or am I missing something?

Xeno Trunks is Future Trunks (and interestingly is the Trunks who fuses with Xeno Goten, making a Gotenks with Future Trunks instead of mainline Trunks) - so where is mainline Trunks throughout all this? It seems weird that we have everyone else but him. Should we not have two version of Trunks - mainline and future - for the Time Patrol?
Since the 2nd question seems to have been answered, I'll try to answer the 1st question: No they seem to bear no relation to the Spike Devilman other than appearance. They were originally supposed to appear in DB Online but were scrapped but later resurfaced in DBH.
Dragotaker wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:24 pm So the only new thing in this chapter SS4 Xeno Gohan which we already knew since at least last week, kinda dissapointed tbh, hoping we get something more like when Dark Gogeta appeared for the first time.
Dark Gogeta didn't appear in the UM7 PM trailer, I don't think he was well advertised either except for maybe one gameplay PM. We could very well have something new that's just in the game.
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Post by Rinsankajugin » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:18 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:04 pm
Rinsankajugin wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:31 pm
sunsetshimmer wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:05 pm

It looks like Oren/Kamin leg but they have white pads on legs, not red. And they are not so muscled lol. It kinda looks like Super Baby 2 leg but it wouldn't make sense for him to be there so it has to be someone else obviously.

Maybe it's new character or new form of one of villains in this arc. Maybe Kamin or Oren will survive, defuse and one of them will take over someone. Vegeta seems to really hate them so it would make sense.
Vegeta is swinging around Punished Zamasu, that's his armor.
It doesn't look like Zamasu at all. He doesn't have tight pants and red plates on boots.
Also i don't remember this mecha form having any official name.
That's his left arm, and the red is from the lightning.

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Post by Rakurai » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:54 pm

Melkaniator wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:16 pm But, it's okay, you don't need to agree, I'm just happy he's not part of the canon, and that Akira was wise enough to changed Broly's hair before adding him to the "canon" making it a lil bit more unique.
Man I sure am glad SSJ Berserker Kale, Goku Black, and Jiren are "canon" then because that means their designs must be really unique, creative, and wonderful, am I rite? :problem: Not to mention transformations like Sparkles Vegeta and Ultra Grandpa Goku, they must be the peak aesthetic of the series!

It's surprising how Cumber's character design is still more original and arguably better than all of them.
sunsetshimmer wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:04 pm Also i don't remember this mecha form having any official name.
It doesn't. Zamasu (Fusion) is still the name given by SDBH.

But there's no issue in classifying the SDBH Zamasu differently. I call him Mecha Zamasu even though it's just a fan name to distinguish him from regular Fused Zamasu.
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Post by Dragotaker » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:20 pm

Rakurai wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:54 pm
Melkaniator wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:16 pm But, it's okay, you don't need to agree, I'm just happy he's not part of the canon, and that Akira was wise enough to changed Broly's hair before adding him to the "canon" making it a lil bit more unique.
Man I sure am glad SSJ Berserker Kale, Goku Black, and Jiren are "canon" then because that means their designs must be really unique, creative, and wonderful, am I rite? :problem: Not to mention transformations like Sparkles Vegeta and Ultra Grandpa Goku, they must be the peak aesthetic of the series!

It's surprising how Cumber's character design is still more original and arguably better than all of them.
sunsetshimmer wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:04 pm Also i don't remember this mecha form having any official name.
It doesn't. Zamasu (Fusion) is still the name given by SDBH.

But there's no issue in classifying the SDBH Zamasu differently. I call him Mecha Zamasu even though it's just a fan name to distinguish him from regular Fused Zamasu.
Zamasu is pretty much the same one from Super, when i saw him the first time i though he was supossed to have robotic parts where his body became purple but the only thing he really covers is half of his face and even then i don't think there is anything different there like he is pretty much the same don't know why they bothered putting him half armor on his body.

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Post by Saiga » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:55 pm

For those more familiar with the story, what role has Demigra played in the arcade missions? I'm a bit confused as to how many times he's appeared after Xenoverse.

When did he first appear, and did that reference Xenoverse? Is his new form referenced in the story at all or just limited to the openings/new cards?

When Roberu was introduced were there any missions related to them or is just starting from the current UM (with Ultimate Goten and the GT universe).

What other story roles has he had?
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Post by Noitsnothim » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:27 pm

Dragotaker wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:20 pm
Rakurai wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:54 pm
Melkaniator wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:16 pm But, it's okay, you don't need to agree, I'm just happy he's not part of the canon, and that Akira was wise enough to changed Broly's hair before adding him to the "canon" making it a lil bit more unique.
Man I sure am glad SSJ Berserker Kale, Goku Black, and Jiren are "canon" then because that means their designs must be really unique, creative, and wonderful, am I rite? :problem: Not to mention transformations like Sparkles Vegeta and Ultra Grandpa Goku, they must be the peak aesthetic of the series!

It's surprising how Cumber's character design is still more original and arguably better than all of them.
sunsetshimmer wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:04 pm Also i don't remember this mecha form having any official name.
It doesn't. Zamasu (Fusion) is still the name given by SDBH.

But there's no issue in classifying the SDBH Zamasu differently. I call him Mecha Zamasu even though it's just a fan name to distinguish him from regular Fused Zamasu.
Zamasu is pretty much the same one from Super, when i saw him the first time i though he was supossed to have robotic parts where his body became purple but the only thing he really covers is half of his face and even then i don't think there is anything different there like he is pretty much the same don't know why they bothered putting him half armor on his body.
you pretty much just answered your own question

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Post by Noitsnothim » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:28 pm

So what the hell was the point of that CC Future Trunks SS3 card if he never turned SS3 on the prison planet nor during the universal conflict saga?

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Post by Saiga » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:23 am

Noitsnothim wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:28 pm So what the hell was the point of that CC Future Trunks SS3 card if he never turned SS3 on the prison planet nor during the universal conflict saga?
Just a what-if, apparently. I thought it was weird as well, especially when he was already using Ikari in the trailers. Not that he used Ikari in the story either :lol:
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