Do you have any nitpicks about the Dragon Ball franchise?
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Do you have any nitpicks about the Dragon Ball franchise?
I do. I didn't like how they made Dyspo look so much like Beerus because it didn't serve any real purpose. I hate that Gohan keeps wearing glasses eventhough there's nothing wrong with his vision. Just because Gohan is a scholar you don't need to make him look like a total nerd. Lastly, I don't like Caulifla's outfit. She's supposed to be a bandit right? Well she doesn't really look like one at all to me in those clothes. I'd give her a jacket, and leather pants.
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We already have two complaint threads like this. We dont need any more.
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• I find kinda odd how Goku's hair as a kid is different from his baby's and adulthood days.
• I probably pay too much attention to years/AGE. So whenever they make a mistake, I'll know and complain.
• I don't like seeing Bardock without the headband and those red shin guards he used to wear over the boots.
• I don't like how Oozaru is a ripoff of the werewolf myth. Not original, not interesting at all (and I dare say Dragon Ball Evolution did it better).
• Characters rarely change their outfits, and when they do, they don't stick with it and return to the old and dull outfits.
• I don't like how concepts and ideas are introduced but never (fully) explored.
Dishonorable mention: this one may be complex but maybe it fits as my own nitpick (?)
• By observing the standards these days, people seem to be satisfied when all they get is a glorified fight scene. If a work delivers it, it's enough to be called "great work". That said, am I nitpicking when I say I prefer story above all else? With no story, I can't call that work "great".
I think that's all.
• I probably pay too much attention to years/AGE. So whenever they make a mistake, I'll know and complain.
• I don't like seeing Bardock without the headband and those red shin guards he used to wear over the boots.
• I don't like how Oozaru is a ripoff of the werewolf myth. Not original, not interesting at all (and I dare say Dragon Ball Evolution did it better).
• Characters rarely change their outfits, and when they do, they don't stick with it and return to the old and dull outfits.
• I don't like how concepts and ideas are introduced but never (fully) explored.
Dishonorable mention: this one may be complex but maybe it fits as my own nitpick (?)
• By observing the standards these days, people seem to be satisfied when all they get is a glorified fight scene. If a work delivers it, it's enough to be called "great work". That said, am I nitpicking when I say I prefer story above all else? With no story, I can't call that work "great".
I think that's all.
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Concepts that get introduced are hardly kept, but saved for when it's supposed to be a reference, because I'll be damned if our heroes couldn't have helped themselves more often than not. With that being said, the story doesn't acknowledge its own mechanisms, and had rather focus on linear action to get backed by plot conveniences. What those bring are cool concepts and designs though.
Re: Do you have any nitpicks about the Dragon Ball franchise?
1- Companies and fans ignoring the original DB.
2- The way Funimation has handled their DBZ releases.
3- Viz never releasing the Kanzenban or finishing the Full Color edition.
4- Super's rushed production schedule.
5- Modern DB relying too much on classic elements.
2- The way Funimation has handled their DBZ releases.
3- Viz never releasing the Kanzenban or finishing the Full Color edition.
4- Super's rushed production schedule.
5- Modern DB relying too much on classic elements.
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For me those are not nitpicks. They bother me too much to just be nitpicks.sintzu wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:12 am 1- Companies and fans ignoring the original DB.
2- The way Funimation has handled their DBZ releases.
3- Viz never releasing the Kanzenban or finishing the Full Color edition.
4- Super's rushed production schedule.
5- Modern DB relying too much on classic elements.
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I agree, sintzu's list is a bigger deal than just being nitpicks.
Off the top of my head, and in-universe, it's always bothered me how #18 "sold" Tenshinhan's Kikoho!! as he was attempting to hold back Cell. She seemed not only completely overwhelmed by the attack (which wasn't even directed towards her at all), but it even knocked her off her feet as she looked helpless to escape its destructive blast radius(!). Not long before this, she was tanking every attack by SSJ Vegeta (even a head-on charged-up ki attack), and standing strong all the while without flinching(!).
Now, I know that there are many inconsistencies within the series when it comes to the power level stuff of it all, but c'mon!
Off the top of my head, and in-universe, it's always bothered me how #18 "sold" Tenshinhan's Kikoho!! as he was attempting to hold back Cell. She seemed not only completely overwhelmed by the attack (which wasn't even directed towards her at all), but it even knocked her off her feet as she looked helpless to escape its destructive blast radius(!). Not long before this, she was tanking every attack by SSJ Vegeta (even a head-on charged-up ki attack), and standing strong all the while without flinching(!).
Now, I know that there are many inconsistencies within the series when it comes to the power level stuff of it all, but c'mon!
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1. The debate about SSJ4 or SSJB being stronger having no real answer......
2. There being no place to retain part of the dead souls of those who were evil in life.
3. Saiyans being unable to control their actions as Saiyan Apes.
4. No other Saiyan colonies in Universe 7.
2. There being no place to retain part of the dead souls of those who were evil in life.
3. Saiyans being unable to control their actions as Saiyan Apes.
4. No other Saiyan colonies in Universe 7.
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This only seemed to be a problem for Goku and Gohan.Hulk10 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:06 pm 3. Saiyans being unable to control their actions as Saiyan Apes.
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True but if you watch the new Super movies Paragus says that when a Saiyan becomes a Great Ape they lose all sense of themselves.
I also don't like the Saiyan family dynamics.
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yeah this is a minor thing but it really bothers me how much more pointy and almost jagged like goku's hair got after the saiyan arc. it's one of the smaller things that shows off how much toriyamas style changed, and how much it got worse, in my opinion of course.Grimlock wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:50 pm • I find kinda odd how Goku's hair as a kid is different from his baby's and adulthood days.
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Aside from the others I mentioned I also don't like how the Dragon Ball Super Broly movie made the admins of the dragon ball wikia think that Wrathful form is a part of the Legendary Super Saiyan form.........
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I have too much nitpicks to quote them all. 

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I think it's the other way around. The only Goku's hairstyle I don't like is from when he's a kid. I'd say Toriyama improved it in that regard. The modern/baby hairstyle "feels" more natural to me.Soppa Saia People wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:28 pmyeah this is a minor thing but it really bothers me how much more pointy and almost jagged like goku's hair got after the saiyan arc. it's one of the smaller things that shows off how much toriyamas style changed, and how much it got worse, in my opinion of course.
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oh haha, my mistake on assuming what you meant. sorry. both fit the thread though so it works.Grimlock wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:04 am I think it's the other way around. The only Goku's hairstyle I don't like is from when he's a kid. I'd say Toriyama improved it in that regard. The modern/baby hairstyle "feels" more natural to me.
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The NEP's aren't included on for the US home video releases of DB and DBZ (DBoxes not included). GT has them, but not for the season sets. It's all incredibly arbitrary. Why, just... why?
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My nitpick is that people go to the Wikia for information...Hulk10 wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:37 pm Aside from the others I mentioned I also don't like how the Dragon Ball Super Broly movie made the admins of the dragon ball wikia think that Wrathful form is a part of the Legendary Super Saiyan form.........
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-DB lacks female fighters as protagonists. Except for Pan in GT we only got #18 in tournament of power arc. Other girls were either only episodic fighters (Videl or #18 before ToP) or mothers. We have more female antagonists in franchise than protagonists.
-Fans hating ChiChi for being good mother
-Fans being satisfied with lazy ideas like Golden Frieza or Goku Black which only makes TOEI and Toriyama continue this trend as shown in DBS Broly because as long as it's succesful they won't bother with giving more effort to franchise.
-Gohan changing from fighter to scholar and vice versa all the time. I'm compeltely fine with Gohan being nerd as in early Buu saga as well as GT and most of Super. I prefer Gohan this way.
-Goku and Vegeta switching back ot their old outifts in Super. I'd prefer them to have different outfits for different series as they had in GT. Their old outfits are getting boring.
-Fans still thinking Vegeta got SSJ4 by machine and that Goku achieved it by himself when it's completely opposite as both got help in Oozaru transformation but Vegeta was the one who turned into SSJ4 on his own while Goku needed Pan for that.
-Fans thinking Goku tried to enable Ultra Instinct in DBS Broly because of weird color effects TOEI put in this movie
-Fans hating ChiChi for being good mother
-Fans being satisfied with lazy ideas like Golden Frieza or Goku Black which only makes TOEI and Toriyama continue this trend as shown in DBS Broly because as long as it's succesful they won't bother with giving more effort to franchise.
-Gohan changing from fighter to scholar and vice versa all the time. I'm compeltely fine with Gohan being nerd as in early Buu saga as well as GT and most of Super. I prefer Gohan this way.
-Goku and Vegeta switching back ot their old outifts in Super. I'd prefer them to have different outfits for different series as they had in GT. Their old outfits are getting boring.
-Fans still thinking Vegeta got SSJ4 by machine and that Goku achieved it by himself when it's completely opposite as both got help in Oozaru transformation but Vegeta was the one who turned into SSJ4 on his own while Goku needed Pan for that.
-Fans thinking Goku tried to enable Ultra Instinct in DBS Broly because of weird color effects TOEI put in this movie
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How is she a good mother?
Vegeta had Bulma hit him with Bruits waves. Both had help.-Fans still thinking Vegeta got SSJ4 by machine and that Goku achieved it by himself when it's completely opposite as both got help in Oozaru transformation but Vegeta was the one who turned into SSJ4 on his own while Goku needed Pan for that.
Here's a nitpick of mine - Freeza surviving Namek's explosion. It's not something major, but it does bug me.
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