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.Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
My God, that is an awful Twitter handle. What shock that they're siding with Vic.Shaddy wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:44 pm
*giggles incessantly*
I really hope all the people who donated take a lesson from this. First, that when dozens of unrelated women complain about one dude's behavior in the exact same manner for over a decade, they're probably not lying, and second, that GoFundMe campaigns for lawsuits are a stupid thing to spend money on.
So is Chuck a scumbag or not?Mr.Saturn99 wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:15 pm Quite a few updates today thanks to Vic's full unredacted deposition releasing -- I don't know if I'll have time to go through everything, but I'll get through the most pressing (one including Chuck Huber, who I know some of us were concerned about):
-First and foremost, I don't recall if this was shared before, but regardless, Vic admits to not even reading his own lawsuit. Not a surprise.
-The context behind Vic's threesome attempt with the twins has been revealed -- apparently, he'd encountered them numerous times at conventions years before said attempt, when they just turned 20. In other words, he was grooming them under the impression they were "interested" in him. Ew.
-In 2013, Huber sent an email to Rial and Toye, which containined a statement from Vic claiming he's a sex addict. Vic states Huber considers himself a friend of the parties involved and thought this may've mended bridges between them and Vic. Rial and Toye weren't having it.
-Not sure if this is from the same source, but numerous affidavits surfaced involving what I believe are other witnesses/accusers. Someone may want to dig around or ask Greg. If I'm reading it right, they may involve people from his teaching days?
Bonus: Context behind Jamie Marchi's infamous "I want his balls" tweet.
I'd say that at this point, it's a little hard to say for sure. Unless there's been a newer statement from him somewhere, 2013 was a long enough time ago in this timeline of events that he could have changed his opinion by now, or even decided to just stay out of it more at this point in time.
Well... Yeah. That's one of life's hardest lessons. You don't need to be a good person to do good things... and you don't need to be a bad person to do bad things.Gyt Kaliba wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:42 am I'm quoting my fiance at this point as she's watched it and I've not (never been that big of a Star Trek fan), but apparently in some of the behind-the-scenes stuff for Star Trek Continues where Chuck plays Bones, he brings up that Vic approached him for his part during a very dark time in Huber's life, where he was apparently even contemplating suicide. If this is all true, then it makes all the more sense why he would be struggling in regards to seeing his 'friend' for what he really is. For now, we can at least hope though that in the 5 years since he sent that e-mail that maybe he's opened his eyes even if only a little bit.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Yeesh, there's a lot of Y I K E S to unpack here. I'm especially left shaking my head at this exchange in the second thread you posted:Fionordequester wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:29 pm
Well, I've been on Twitter myself, and there definitely ARE people jumping ship, with one person outright saying "****. I feel real bad backing the wrong horse now".
OTHERS, however... Well...
https://twitter.com/Luke47134324/status ... 60256?s=20
https://twitter.com/Darkbunnyrabbit/sta ... 58848?s=20
I make it a rule to always assume the best in people. With interactions like these, I have absolutely no explanation, other than...
1) They refuse to actually read or see what's right in front of them.
2) They're driven entirely by their emotions, and how badly they want Vic to win...
3) They're deathly afraid of admitting they're wrong.
There's still a staunch belief that even things Vic himself admitted to are slanderous lies to defame him, and his own confessions are somehow others "twisting his words". The level of delusion going on is just unbelievable... 
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Akira Toriyama wrote:If anyone. ANYONE AT TOEI! Makes a movie about old and weak major villains returning, or making recolored versions of Super Saiyan, I'ma come to yo company and evict you from doing Dragon Ball ever again! Only I do those things, because people love me, and they despise you....derp!
Marco Polo wrote:Goku Black is a fan of DBZ who hates Super and has taken the form of a younger Goku (thinner shape, softer hair) to avenge the original series by destroying the new.
For me Vic's take on Dragon Soul is the only English iteration I can stand, and now that's totally out the window and in the bin with my Michael Jackson music.Shaddy wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:31 am You can watch the movies however you want, Vic isn't getting money from them (not that I think the old dubs and their replaced music are good, but I digress). Though I can see how association with this debacle might turn you off from the stuff he's in. I certainly will have a harder time looking at the FMA dub, and whenever I get around to rewatching JoJo Part 4 via the dub that's going to be an awkward thing hanging over the experience.
No offense but I rather watch the videos if I can. You kinda lose the tone of voice when you read text and definitely can't read facial expressions.
On the other hand, it also takes significantly longer to get through it all by watching instead of reading. Not a problem on your first viewing... But when you're trying to debate others, and need to recall a specific point? That's when having something quick and easy is handy.excelhedge wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:06 am No offense but I rather watch the videos if I can. You kinda lose the tone of voice when you read text and definitely can't read facial expressions.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
well that what the transcripts are for. I just rather watch the vids first.Fionordequester wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:08 amOn the other hand, it also takes significantly longer to get through it all by watching instead of reading. Not a problem on your first viewing... But when you're trying to debate others, and need to recall a specific point? That's when having something quick and easy is handy.excelhedge wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:06 am No offense but I rather watch the videos if I can. You kinda lose the tone of voice when you read text and definitely can't read facial expressions.
