"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[Kataphrut]

I don't hate the length of this arc, but we're definitely in for a downward slide from here on out. The Anilaza episode is fun, but after that it just drags until the end. Fortunately, the final episode is a-mazing.

As to how it stacks up to Dragon Ball's other super-long arcs, I feel like this arc has more going on than the filler portions of Namek, but not as much as Cell or Buu. The advantage of having so many characters is even though it's all just fighting on a ring for 35 episodes, you still feel like you're getting something different week to week. That's why it loses steam once it comes down to just Universe 11. The only things new they have to show us are Top's transformation and Jiren's backstory, which are both poorly handled.

Btw I'm making an effort to call him Top, since I don't think anyone else is.

[HeroR]

I don't hate the length of this arc, but we're definitely in for a downward slide from here on out. The Anilaza episode is fun, but after that it just drags until the end. Fortunately, the final episode is a-mazing.

As to how it stacks up to Dragon Ball's other super-long arcs, I feel like this arc has more going on than the filler portions of Namek, but not as much as Cell or Buu. The advantage of having so many characters is even though it's all just fighting on a ring for 35 episodes, you still feel like you're getting something different week to week. That's why it loses steam once it comes down to just Universe 11. The only things new they have to show us are Top's transformation and Jiren's backstory, which are both poorly handled.

Btw I'm making an effort to call him Top, since I don't think anyone else is.

I don't really agree with it going downhill since 122, 123, and 125 were extremely good. That God of Destruction Toppo episode is one of my favorite episodes. That beatdown that Freeza got, even Broly beating Freeza's ass for an hour did have the same ferocity. Honestly, I think only 127 and 128 dragged and God of Destruction Toppo needed one more episode since his fight with Vegeta was rushed.

[Kataphrut]

I don't hate the length of this arc, but we're definitely in for a downward slide from here on out. The Anilaza episode is fun, but after that it just drags until the end. Fortunately, the final episode is a-mazing.

As to how it stacks up to Dragon Ball's other super-long arcs, I feel like this arc has more going on than the filler portions of Namek, but not as much as Cell or Buu. The advantage of having so many characters is even though it's all just fighting on a ring for 35 episodes, you still feel like you're getting something different week to week. That's why it loses steam once it comes down to just Universe 11. The only things new they have to show us are Top's transformation and Jiren's backstory, which are both poorly handled.

Btw I'm making an effort to call him Top, since I don't think anyone else is.

I don't really agree with it going downhill since 122, 123, and 125 were extremely good. That God of Destruction Toppo episode is one of my favorite episodes. That beatdown that Freeza got, even Broly beating Freeza's ass for an hour did have the same ferocity. Honestly, I think only 127 and 128 dragged and God of Destruction Toppo needed one more episode since his fight with Vegeta was rushed.

125 is great in isolation, but I can't in hindsight call it a good or necessary episode because of how it gets resolved in 126. That was an absolutely awful episode. 122 is carried by the Takahashi art and atmosphere, but knowing it all leads up to Vegeta's dumb transformation makes it hard to enjoy.

Basically, my hot take is that the stuff with Vegeta ruins this section of the arc. I'd forgotten how much of a light presence he was up to now, but he ends up dominating the final stretch, and not in a good way. It's funny, I'm seeing posts in the r/dbz Reddit from people who are following the dub and haven't been spoiled of anything to come and they're all saying "Where's Vegeta? When's Vegeta going to get his cool moment?"

[HeroR]

I don't hate the length of this arc, but we're definitely in for a downward slide from here on out. The Anilaza episode is fun, but after that it just drags until the end. Fortunately, the final episode is a-mazing.

As to how it stacks up to Dragon Ball's other super-long arcs, I feel like this arc has more going on than the filler portions of Namek, but not as much as Cell or Buu. The advantage of having so many characters is even though it's all just fighting on a ring for 35 episodes, you still feel like you're getting something different week to week. That's why it loses steam once it comes down to just Universe 11. The only things new they have to show us are Top's transformation and Jiren's backstory, which are both poorly handled.

Btw I'm making an effort to call him Top, since I don't think anyone else is.

I don't really agree with it going downhill since 122, 123, and 125 were extremely good. That God of Destruction Toppo episode is one of my favorite episodes. That beatdown that Freeza got, even Broly beating Freeza's ass for an hour did have the same ferocity. Honestly, I think only 127 and 128 dragged and God of Destruction Toppo needed one more episode since his fight with Vegeta was rushed.

125 is great in isolation, but I can't in hindsight call it a good or necessary episode because of how it gets resolved in 126. That was an absolutely awful episode. 122 is carried by the Takahashi art and atmosphere, but knowing it all leads up to Vegeta's dumb transformation makes it hard to enjoy.

Basically, my hot take is that the stuff with Vegeta ruins this section of the arc. I'd forgotten how much of a light presence he was up to now, but he ends up dominating the final stretch, and not in a good way. It's funny, I'm seeing posts in the r/dbz Reddit from people who are following the dub and haven't been spoiled of anything to come and they're all saying "Where's Vegeta? When's Vegeta going to get his cool moment?"

Even with how 126 ended, it still doesn't make 125 less good. In fact, I'm one of the few idiots around here who liked 126. My only issue was that the fight with Toppo and Vegeta needed to be longer.

Can't help you if you didn't like Vegeta being around.

[Scsigs]

I can only assume that the dubbed episode was pretty good tonight or that the episode wasn't of note because people aren't complaining about minor discrepancies in the dub. In which case, ok.

[LettuceJUMP]

From someone who never watched the sub, I am enjoying so far and excited for the last ten episodes.
The battles we’ve been waiting for. Let’s see what you got Jiren!

[Noah]

Had the dub still not reached the final episode?

[Gafonso6]

Had the dub still not reached the final episode?

This dub won't end until October.

[Kataphrut]

Ama Lee sung Lagrima. She’s one of my favourite anime cover singers and did a pretty good job of it.

So we’re in this weird case with the dub where the worst ending gets the best cover. And the best insert song got the worst cover.

[DasMuse]

Funi added more dub episodes to their stream today but completely skipped 110... 109 is 22 minutes long and ends at the spirit bomb struggle, and then goes right to 111... I swear it's like they go out of their way to piss their fans off. I'm half expecting the blu-rays to ship like that now.

[PremiumSalt]

Funi added more dub episodes to their stream today but completely skipped 110... 109 is 22 minutes long and ends at the spirit bomb struggle, and then goes right to 111... I swear it's like they go out of their way to piss their fans off. I'm half expecting the blu-rays to ship like that now.

...maybe they're redoing the audio mix to use the Japanese version of Ultimate Battle?

Oh, I know it's unlikely, but hey I can dream.

[Valerius Dover]

Funi added more dub episodes to their stream today but completely skipped 110... 109 is 22 minutes long and ends at the spirit bomb struggle, and then goes right to 111... I swear it's like they go out of their way to piss their fans off. I'm half expecting the blu-rays to ship like that now.

...maybe they're redoing the audio mix to use the Japanese version of Ultimate Battle?

Oh, I know it's unlikely, but hey I can dream.

Yeah, that's a big nope. People have said plenty of negative things about every ending theme and not a single cover has been removed or reworked due to fan perception.

That being said, this is a pretty major screwup on their part and needs to be addressed. So, not only are we not getting the full version of the episode, but we're only getting one of the two?

[Scsigs]

Funi added more dub episodes to their stream today but completely skipped 110... 109 is 22 minutes long and ends at the spirit bomb struggle, and then goes right to 111... I swear it's like they go out of their way to piss their fans off. I'm half expecting the blu-rays to ship like that now.

...maybe they're redoing the audio mix to use the Japanese version of Ultimate Battle?

Oh, I know it's unlikely, but hey I can dream.

Yeah, that's a big nope. People have said plenty of negative things about every ending theme and not a single cover has been removed or reworked due to fan perception.

That being said, this is a pretty major screwup on their part and needs to be addressed. So, not only are we not getting the full version of the episode, but we're only getting one of the two?

I very much doubt we won't get the full versions of the episodes on the home releases. They're probably redoing the cover of the song, since they've done other little dub corrections so far. I can't imagine what else it would be.

[wjbraden]

...maybe they're redoing the audio mix to use the Japanese version of Ultimate Battle?

Oh, I know it's unlikely, but hey I can dream.

Yeah, that's a big nope. People have said plenty of negative things about every ending theme and not a single cover has been removed or reworked due to fan perception.

That being said, this is a pretty major screwup on their part and needs to be addressed. So, not only are we not getting the full version of the episode, but we're only getting one of the two?

I very much doubt we won't get the full versions of the episodes on the home releases. They're probably redoing the cover of the song, since they've done other little dub corrections so far. I can't imagine what else it would be.

There wouldn't happen to be a list of said corrections floating around out there, would there? Just curious is all.

[Scsigs]

I forget. Did anyone say that Richard Steven Horvitz, under a pseudonym, voiced Dr. Rota in this dub of Super?

[Shaddy]

Someone said it, dunno if anyone confirmed it.

[Scsigs]

Someone said it, dunno if anyone confirmed it.

Apparently it's been confirmed. Looked up his Wikipedia page while watching the Invader Zim Netflix movie (which is a great movie you all should watch if you haven't yet) & it's in his filmography. Damn, Sabat surprises me sometimes.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Someone said it, dunno if anyone confirmed it.

Apparently it's been confirmed. Looked up his Wikipedia page while watching the Invader Zim Netflix movie (which is a great movie you all should watch if you haven't yet) & it's in his filmography. Damn, Sabat surprises me sometimes.

I'd actually credit this one more to Dawn M. Bennett, the voice of Kale - she was one of Horvitz's students a while back apparently, so I'd imagine she's responsible for getting FUNi in touch with him. I can't imagine he'll start popping up in stuff all the time or in major roles, but it'd be great if he did, Horvitz is an AMAZING actor.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Horvitz is an AMAZING actor.

You can add "amazing person" and "amazing teacher" to that list as well. I smiled when I heard him in the dub.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Horvitz is an AMAZING actor.

You can add "amazing person" and "amazing teacher" to that list as well. I smiled when I heard him in the dub.

I've never had the pleasure of meeting him myself, but from everything I've seen and heard from people who have, that's definitely true. Rob Paulsen's Talking Toons podcast episodes with Horvitz as the guest are still amongst my favorite podcasts ever just because of how purely enthused and energetic Horvitz is there. To quote Paulsen, 'He IS a cartoon character'.