Well, even South Park has used the f-slur as recently as season 20. In fact, the closing line of the season was an old man using that word.Fionordequester wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:56 pmThey're Adult Swim clips, basically. Family Guy, Robot Chicken, South Park... it's all pretty standard adult humor, apart from maybe the Schemmel one.KBABZ wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:52 pm Honestly, none of that stuff sounds that BAAAAD...? I hear worse stuff come out of Nick Scarpino's mouth at Kinda Funny and nobody ever directs any outrage towards him.
While I totally understand the sentiment... she has 9 different cases of DUI and Property Theft. The odds of her returning are... unlikely.excelhedge wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:54 pmI dislike Clinkenbeard's Goku and Gohan the sound so wrong.
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If it's just the actors having some fun amongst themselves, I take no issue with this. However, now that it leaked, I can certainly see Toei having some reservations.Robo4900 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:34 pmI can describe their contents to you.Polyphase Avatron wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:08 pm Can someone post a link or transcript of these outtakes?
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Honestly, if this stuff had made the rounds in 2009, people would be laughing at it just like people did at TFS's early stuff. But the bloopers are all in pretty poor taste, and mostly pretty disgusting, a few being outright just unfunny cringe.Spoiler:
So... I can see why some people take issue with this stuff. But I don't see why some people are making a huge deal out of it. Filth like this fills a lot of blooper reels; it's the actors sharing private jokes among themselves. And back 10-15 years ago, when this kind of humour was far more acceptable, I'd have assumed most people would realise this kind of stuff would exist.
A lot of people took particular exception to the Sabat one, which really surprises me; he's always been a huge fan of TFS, and that's exactly the kind of stuff TFS and other parody artists were putting up 10+ years ago, so this is pretty in-flavour for his sense of humour at the time.
What does concern me, however, is just how sordid Funimation's work environment appears to be.
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Sordid because they tell off color jokes?
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Toei has a very long history of doing way worse, without any sort of apology. General Blue the pedophilic, "flaming homo" (Krillin actually called him that in the Japanese), DBS Episode 89, that one time Akira Toriyama said he'd cheat on his wife if he thought he could get away with it...Lord Exor wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:09 pmIf it's just the actors having some fun amongst themselves, I take no issue with this. However, now that it leaked, I can certainly see Toei having some reservations.
Trust me. Toei isn't going to care. If anything at all (big assumption), they'll give a very passive, very Japanese response just to save face... then life will go on as normal.
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Why does anyone think Toei will say anything about this one way or the other?
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They seem to have this weird impression that Toei is like the Japanese equivalent of Disney. In other words, they think Toei has some sort of image as this squeaky clean family friendly company that tries to avoid being associated with controversy as much as possible. Granted, Toei mostly does seem to make things that are meant to be consumed by kids, but they’re also a Japanese company, meaning that they probably don’t care all that much for political correctness.ABED wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:24 pm Why does anyone think Toei will say anything about this one way or the other?
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Considering the contents of DBS Episode 89, that's... a pretty safe assumption, I'd say. Not that they should be making that sort of filth, but, as far as punishing FUNimation goes, Nick's gonna be pretty disappointed.WittyUsername wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:30 pm They seem to have this weird impression that Toei is like the Japanese equivalent of Disney. In other words, they think Toei has some sort of image as this squeaky clean family friendly company that tries to avoid being associated with controversy as much as possible. Granted, Toei mostly does seem to make things that are meant to be consumed by kids, but they’re also a Japanese company, meaning that they probably don’t care all that much for political correctness.
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excelhedge wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:54 pm I dislike Clinkenbeard's Goku and Gohan the sound so wrong.
Nadolny needs to return.
Personally I like Clinkenbeard as Kid/Teen Gohan, and I like the vocal evolution she does as the character grows up throughout the Saiyan, Namek and Cell arcs. But when she does Kid Goku, or Nadolny does Gohan, it just sounds completely weird to me.Fionordequester wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:56 pm EDIT: But yeah, I liked her Kid Goku & Gohan better, too!
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It’s honestly incredibly tame. The worse of it being, arguably Schemmel saying the f word over and over but it feels less...hateful and more just dude being a douche bro for lolz.KBABZ wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:52 pm Honestly, none of that stuff sounds that BAAAAD...? I hear worse stuff come out of Nick Scarpino's mouth at Kinda Funny and nobody ever directs any outrage towards him.
I’m more offended by how lame it is than how “offensive” it is.
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Indeed.Lord Exor wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:09 pm If it's just the actors having some fun amongst themselves, I take no issue with this. However, now that it leaked, I can certainly see Toei having some reservations.
If these recordings are the extent of any... Ugliness we see from Funi, then the worst I see happening is Toei tell Funi to be more careful in future.
If some big controversy suddenly came out involving some key employees/regular cast members Funimination (say... If Chris Sabat, Sean Schemmel, and Gen Fukunaga turned out to have been sexually harassing people and covering each-other's asses), then I could see some real crap going down. And in such a case, the entirety of Funimation would probably collapse in on itself.
But this doesn't even vaguely come close to that. It's just some recordings of some dumb crap some bored actors said as bloopers.
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Yeah. To me, the joke isn't "HAHA FAGGOT" but more that the characters are saying things that are so VERY out of character for them. That's the joke, similar to stuff like Conker, or when South Park brings in real people or pre-existing characters to say horrible shit. The extra giggle is that the actual VOs are saying it, so it has a dash of authenticity about it that makes it even funnier to them.MasenkoHA wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:49 pmIt’s honestly incredibly tame. The worse of it being, arguably Schemmel saying the f word over and over but it feels less...hateful and more just dude being a douche bro for lolz.KBABZ wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:52 pm Honestly, none of that stuff sounds that BAAAAD...? I hear worse stuff come out of Nick Scarpino's mouth at Kinda Funny and nobody ever directs any outrage towards him.
I’m more offended by how lame it is than how “offensive” it is.
In terms of context, this isn't that far off when people take the piss out of movies while watching them in a private setting. Say a couple is watching Alita: Battle Angel and one of them says "Oh Hugo... such a massive dick he has!" in an Alita impression.
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Just stop.coola wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:07 pmIsn't same thing can be said about Marchi and others? If Vic really did what she said he did (pull her hair etc.) she should go to police first thing in the morning, yet it all went down soon after DB Super Broly, when Vic popularity skyrocketed.Fionordequester wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:47 pmThen there's the question of why Huber took so long to say anything, if what he had to say was truly so important.MasenkoHA wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:43 pm I guess it’s not out of the realm of the possibility that Nadolny was recast because she refused Sabat’s advances I don’t want to rule it out (and if its true Sabat can get bent) but its all suspect that Huber “heard rumors” and unless Miss Nadolny comes out and says something I’m not going to take it too seriously.
The whole thing reeks of desperation & hypocrisy.
People coming forward on things that actually happened to them is way different than some guy saying “well I heard so and so did such and such”. The false equivalency around here lately has been unreal.
This idea that people are just trying to ruin poor widdle Vicky Wicky is stupid. Like Abed said you are seriously overestimating his popularity outside of an incredibly niche market of anime con goers. He’s not an A list celebrity. He’s not even a B lister. D lister is probably generous.
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Nothing about Nadolny’s Gohan sounded right.excelhedge wrote:
I dislike Clinkenbeard's Goku and Gohan the sound so wrong.
Nadolny needs to return.
I would give her Goku if she could deliver lines like a normal human being.
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And not only that...but the motherfucker ADMITTED he pulled her hair. While his braindead supporters groaned and wished he'd have lied under oath.MasenkoHA wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:57 pmJust stop.coola wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:07 pmIsn't same thing can be said about Marchi and others? If Vic really did what she said he did (pull her hair etc.) she should go to police first thing in the morning, yet it all went down soon after DB Super Broly, when Vic popularity skyrocketed.Fionordequester wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:47 pm
Then there's the question of why Huber took so long to say anything, if what he had to say was truly so important.
The whole thing reeks of desperation & hypocrisy.
People coming forward on things that actually happened to them is way different than some guy saying “well I heard so and so did such and such”. The false equivalency around here lately has been unreal.
This idea that people are just trying to ruin poor widdle Vicky Wicky is stupid. Like Abed said you are seriously overestimating his popularity outside of an incredibly niche market of anime con goers. He’s not an A list celebrity. He’s not even a B lister. D lister is probably generous.
Any pretense of credibility I Stand With Vice had died there. It's not about the truth. It's about Vic getting away with his behavuor.
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It’s no coincidence that the people engaging in what aboutisms, and false equivalencies and a revisionist narrative of events are all Vic fans who hold a high regard for his Broly.jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:38 pmAnd not only that...but the motherfucker ADMITTED he pulled her hair. While his braindead supporters groaned and wished he'd have lied under oath.MasenkoHA wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:57 pmJust stop.coola wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:07 pm
Isn't same thing can be said about Marchi and others? If Vic really did what she said he did (pull her hair etc.) she should go to police first thing in the morning, yet it all went down soon after DB Super Broly, when Vic popularity skyrocketed.
People coming forward on things that actually happened to them is way different than some guy saying “well I heard so and so did such and such”. The false equivalency around here lately has been unreal.
This idea that people are just trying to ruin poor widdle Vicky Wicky is stupid. Like Abed said you are seriously overestimating his popularity outside of an incredibly niche market of anime con goers. He’s not an A list celebrity. He’s not even a B lister. D lister is probably generous.
Any pretense of credibility I Stand With Vice had died there. It's not about the truth. It's about Vic getting away with his behavuor.
It’s not about the truth or justice it’s just a bunch of sadsacks not wanting to admit some mediocre voice actor they hero worship is a shitty human being because they love the characters he voices so much.
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Couldn't have said it any better myself. At the point that he started admitting to some of these things, it should really live extremely little doubt that the bulk of them are true.jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:38 pm And not only that...but the motherfucker ADMITTED he pulled her hair. While his braindead supporters groaned and wished he'd have lied under oath.
Any pretense of credibility I Stand With Vice had died there. It's not about the truth. It's about Vic getting away with his behavuor.
Also, I'm again "amused" (and by that I mean DEAR GOD I FEEL MY BRAIN SPLITTING IN TWO) by a bunch of people automatically buying in to Huber's talk about 'rumors he's heard, while simultaneously dismissing the same level of 'rumors' towards Vic. Sadly at this point, my opinion of Huber's plummeting pretty damn fast too, and that really sucks since he was one of my favorites at FUNi. This entire debacle is very much turning into one of those 'never meet your heroes' lessons.
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Oh, I wouldn't say that, necessarily. Monica Rial's shown herself to be a pretty cool, brave, & gracious person... at least after the bouts of justified fear and anger she suffered at the very beginning. Kara Edwards has, as well.Gyt Kaliba wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:50 pm This entire debacle is very much turning into one of those 'never meet your heroes' lessons.
Then, of course, there's the fact that many of the voice actors at FUNi have been outspoken in defending the victims, despite all the ire it's brought them from #ISWV. Surely that's all worth considering?
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
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Monica Rial got a little overzealous on Twitter for a while but it’s really hard to blame her when she’s getting harassed by some douchebag fanboys.Fionordequester wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:53 pmOh, I wouldn't say that, necessarily. Monica Rial's shown herself to be a pretty cool, brave, & gracious person... at least after the bouts of justified fear and anger she suffered at the very beginning. Kara Edwards has, as well.Gyt Kaliba wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:50 pm This entire debacle is very much turning into one of those 'never meet your heroes' lessons.
Then, of course, there's the fact that many of the voice actors at FUNi have been outspoken in defending the victims, despite all the ire it's brought them from #ISWV. Surely that's all worth considering?
Sean Schemmel has always rubbed me the wrong way but I don’t think (far as I know) he’s legitimately an awful human being just a bit douchey and pretentious.
Sabat seems like a nice enough dude. Regardless of my feelings on any of the Funimation cast Mignogna (who I barely consider part of the Dragon Ball dub team) and Huber seem to be the only rotten apples.
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That was true at the very start. Since then, though, she's calmed down considerably. She's probably been the most patient, even-handed one of all the voice actors in terms of how she crafts and words her tweets.MasenkoHA wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:00 pm Monica Rial got a little overzealous on Twitter for a while but it’s really hard to blame her when she’s getting harassed by some douchebag fanboys.
Granted, a large part of that is probably necessity... But it's still been really cool for me, following her posts and getting to know her.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
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Again, I could hardly blame her. It’s pretty understandable given the circumstances. I’m glad she was able to calm down.Fionordequester wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:03 pmThat was true at the very start. Since then, though, she's calmed down considerably. She's probably been the most patient, even-handed one of all the voice actors in terms of how she crafts and words her tweets.MasenkoHA wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:00 pm Monica Rial got a little overzealous on Twitter for a while but it’s really hard to blame her when she’s getting harassed by some douchebag fanboys.
Granted, a large part of that is probably necessity... But it's still been really cool for me, following her posts and getting to know her.