DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by mute_proxy » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:45 am

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What I meant by watchable referred to overall quality of said episode: gorgeous artstyle, fluid animation, epic bgm, great storyboarding, apt editing, etc which adds to the overall entertainment value which makes me binge watch DB & Z :P :P :P
The artstyle was at peak, and the animation was on par with Z. You were talking about art and animation when you said watchable.

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by Vijay » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:00 am

mute_proxy wrote:
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Vijay wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:34 am
What I meant by watchable referred to overall quality of said episode: gorgeous artstyle, fluid animation, epic bgm, great storyboarding, apt editing, etc which adds to the overall entertainment value which makes me binge watch DB & Z :P :P :P
The artstyle was at peak, and the animation was on par with Z. You were talking about art and animation when you said watchable.
I said didnt I...what's d use of peak artsyle when its animation, fight, character design, characterization, voice acting, etc were bad.

Animation & artsyle going hand-in-hand makes for great watch. Name single fight from GT that rivals Dbz's Goku vs Cell, Kid Boo or Vegeta/Piccolo/Gohan fights.

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by omegacwa » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:11 pm

Dragon Ball and Z, and even Super have a timeless feel to them. There's something old and something futuristic about all of the designs so it feels like it takes place at a unknown point in time. Similar to the Tim Burton Batman movies.

GT feels dated. All the "hip" redesigns make it very much a product of its time.

Who ever put the mustache on Vegeta was out of their mind. Thankfully it was quickly rectified.

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by KBABZ » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:16 pm

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Who ever put the mustache on Vegeta was out of their mind. Thankfully it was quickly rectified.
At the very least we got a funny bit out of it!

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by mute_proxy » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:01 am

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Who ever put the mustache on Vegeta was out of their mind. Thankfully it was quickly rectified.
It was our beloved Akira Toriyama-chan-sama desu desu himself

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by Vijay » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:53 am

mute_proxy wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:01 am
omegacwa wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:11 pm
Who ever put the mustache on Vegeta was out of their mind. Thankfully it was quickly rectified.
It was our beloved Akira Toriyama-chan-sama desu desu himself

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Wait what?! Are u sayin Toriyama designed all of them for GT? Holy moly...all along thought Toriyama had no involvement in GT except SSJ4 & Giru's design

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by mute_proxy » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:10 am

Vijay wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:53 am
Wait what?! Are u sayin Toriyama designed all of them for GT? Holy moly...all along thought Toriyama had no involvement in GT except SSJ4 & Giru's design
Toriyama designed the main cast, the ship, Giru too I think, made some alien planet drawings used in the show, but not SS4

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by Vijay » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:51 am

mute_proxy wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:10 am
Vijay wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:53 am
Wait what?! Are u sayin Toriyama designed all of them for GT? Holy moly...all along thought Toriyama had no involvement in GT except SSJ4 & Giru's design
Toriyama designed the main cast, the ship, Giru too I think, made some alien planet drawings used in the show, but not SS4
:shock: I'm out of words to say...yeah saw alien planet drawings shown during ED's...

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by KBABZ » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:09 am

To be fair I do think there's a big difference between Toriyama designing a character he knows he's gonna be working on for the next several months/years, and him designing a character for a project he's only barely involved with (see: GT, DB video games, Dragon Quest)

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by omegacwa » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:48 am

Most of those designs are ok except for Vegeta for obvious reasons, Krillin looks twice his age and Bra in a weird hooker outfit.

I can't believe Toryiama thought that design looked good for Vegeta. He must have thought GT was going to be a parody or something.

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by KBABZ » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:58 am

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I can't believe Toryiama thought that design looked good for Vegeta. He must have thought GT was going to be a parody or something.
Again I put it in the bucket of "well I don't have to work with this design myself so here goes!"

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by sunsetshimmer » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:12 am

Vijay wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:53 am
mute_proxy wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:01 am
omegacwa wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:11 pm
Who ever put the mustache on Vegeta was out of their mind. Thankfully it was quickly rectified.
It was our beloved Akira Toriyama-chan-sama desu desu himself

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Wait what?! Are u sayin Toriyama designed all of them for GT? Holy moly...all along thought Toriyama had no involvement in GT except SSJ4 & Giru's design
SSJ4 was designed by Nakatsuru, not Toriyama. If Toriyama designed it it wouldn't be as cool as it is obviously.
omegacwa wrote:
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Most of those designs are ok except for Vegeta for obvious reasons, Krillin looks twice his age and Bra in a weird hooker outfit.

I can't believe Toryiama thought that design looked good for Vegeta. He must have thought GT was going to be a parody or something.
I'm not sure but if i recall correctly he made it as a joke to surprise and confuse TOEI animation. I might be wrong. But he certainly didn't think it looks good.
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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by Grimlock » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:19 am

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Krillin looks twice his age.
You don't think Kuririn is 53/54 years old? Seems fine to me. Probably because Toei made him still active and able to fight, if he were a decrepit old man who couldn't even move, then yeah...

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by Soppa Saia People » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:22 am

omegacwa wrote:
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Most of those designs are ok except for Vegeta for obvious reasons, Krillin looks twice his age and Bra in a weird hooker outfit.
kuririn has always looked way too hard in all the EoZ, GT era stuff. i really don't get it, he looks so much older than bulma, chichi, and yamucha (more so talking about his appearance on the last title page), it's so weird.

also i guess i'm in the minority because i think mustache vegeta looks hilarious.
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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by omegacwa » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:55 am

Grimlock wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:19 am
omegacwa wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:48 am
Krillin looks twice his age.
You don't think Kuririn is 53/54 years old? Seems fine to me. Probably because Toei made him still active and able to fight, if he were a decrepit old man who couldn't even move, then yeah...
In that drawing Krillin looks 65-80 years old to me.

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by Vijay » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:29 pm

omegacwa wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:55 am
Grimlock wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:19 am
omegacwa wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:48 am
Krillin looks twice his age.
You don't think Kuririn is 53/54 years old? Seems fine to me. Probably because Toei made him still active and able to fight, if he were a decrepit old man who couldn't even move, then yeah...
In that drawing Krillin looks 65-80 years old to me.
Now that you mentioned it, Krillin does look waay older. Maybe cuz he was human, coupled with the fact he settled for domestic life...looks as the same reason why Veggie grew a moustache as he's easily moodiest, angriest as well as most disciplined character throughout Z...😂😂😂

Oob's gi sure give-away as Goku's student lol😂😂😂 His build also gives off Teen Gohan vibe.

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by Nokra » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:40 pm

Isn't bulla suppose to be like a child in gt? so why is she dressed like a thot?

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by Vijay » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:07 pm

Nokra wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:40 pm
Isn't bulla suppose to be like a child in gt? so why is she dressed like a thot?
Like Mother, like daughter I guess :P

Bulma during heyday DB days was kinda...thot. And Bulla is daughter of Prince of Saiyan & daughter of Capsule Corp's heir. Guess it runs in the family😂😂😂

Just wished Pan & Bulla had more interactions in GT. Would've been fun tbh

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by MyVisionity » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:29 pm

Nokra wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:40 pm
Isn't bulla suppose to be like a child in gt? so why is she dressed like a thot?
I think the writers just decided to make her a teenager instead. If the official timeline was in play, Bra would be around nine years old I believe.

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Re: DBGT: General Designs/Visuals & Music Opinions

Post by sunsetshimmer » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:07 pm

Vijay wrote:
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Just wished Pan & Bulla had more interactions in GT. Would've been fun tbh
I wish they had ANY interaction in GT. Seriously, i don't think they ever talked with each other. I always wished there was a slice of life kind of episode with Pan hanging out with Bra, maybe even Marron. They could go shopping or something. To not make it a totally pointless episode there could be a robbery which Pan would stop for example. There isn't much space for it sadly, it'd have to be between Baby and Super 17 arcs which is the only time in GT except for first two episodes when there is a peace on Earth and Goku and others are not in space. Super 17 arc goes into Shadow Dragons instantly and then we have end of series after that.
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