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That is Vic "losing". The judge was constantly giving Ty chances to prove it had merit, and Ty failed.excelhedge wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:06 pm rather hear the turth and Vic lose than stuff just being thrown out
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
by asking for context constantly when it's pretty obvious obvious from some of the materials that what the context wasFionordequester wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:21 pmThat is Vic "losing". The judge was constantly giving Ty chances to prove it had merit, and Ty failed.excelhedge wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:06 pm rather hear the turth and Vic lose than stuff just being thrown out
If Ty wasn't going to take it seriously, why should Chupp?
Well, firstly, you have the transcript, right?excelhedge wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:24 pm by asking for context constantly when it's pretty obvious obvious from some of the materials that what the context was
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Context of what? That Vic's predatory tactics became an open secret in the con scene as early as 2008? That accounts of his actions go all the way back to the 1980s? That there are so many independent accounts of him being inappropriate toward women that it couldn't possibly be a conspiracy?excelhedge wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:24 pmby asking for context constantly when it's pretty obvious obvious from some of the materials that what the context wasFionordequester wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:21 pmThat is Vic "losing". The judge was constantly giving Ty chances to prove it had merit, and Ty failed.excelhedge wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:06 pm rather hear the turth and Vic lose than stuff just being thrown out
If Ty wasn't going to take it seriously, why should Chupp?
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Sort of the inverse Kunzait rule, amirite???Fionordequester wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:04 am Pro Tip: Never put more effort into your post than the other guy's putting in. If he types 3 sentences, you type 3 sentences. If he types a paragraph, you type a paragraph. If it's just one sentence, try to summarize your point in 1 sentence, too.
This is how you preserve energy, the way I did across those two conservation I posted. It's not jaded, it's just pragmatic.
Basically.KBABZ wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:27 am Sort of the inverse Kunzait rule, amirite???
(no hate on Kunzait intended, love his insight)
.Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
here we go again with open secret nonsense. Seriously if this was so out in the Open it wouldn't take to 30 years do something. A low grade Actor/VA doesn't have that kinda pull.Fionordequester wrote:
Context of what? That Vic's predatory tactics became an open secret in the con scene as early as 2008? That accounts of his actions go all the way back to the 1980s? That there are so many independent accounts of him being inappropriate toward women that it couldn't possibly be a conspiracy?
Fionordequester wrote: You know that his preference for young girls means that many of them weren't even born yet when they all came together to form this conspiracy, right?
This whole thing has just been a tactic for Vic to scare his victims, especially the ones who aren't in a financially privileged position, into silence by bankrupting them through frivolous lawsuits.
please consider the same.
So what you're saying is that you won't believe the allegations unless there's some overly-specific physical or video evidence, and that dozens upon dozens of allegations are completely unfounded and made up unless something meeting your standards of "proof" is met. That is the message I'm getting from this. That truth itself is a democracy, and if there's nothing meeting your tunnel-vision idea of evidence, then thinking it's all a super-secret social justice cabal conspiracy by the jews is as valid an answer as "this notoriously hard to prove thing has like a hundred unrelated people talking about this one guy and there's nothing to gain from them lying about it". Whether this is what you believe or not, this is the belief you're defending, and it's super fucking dumb, my dude. The obvious victim-blaming and repeating wrong information pushed by Vic's shitty legal team doesn't help.excelhedge wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:01 pm but thanks for finally admitting that anonymous accounts with no actual people behind them is not proof. XP
still a shame we won"t get actual facts if the judge keeps dismissing parts of the case. Ty's incompetence/ poor planning/ mishandling really botched this.
You're an idiot. We won't get the "facts" you're looking for because that's not what is going to get looked at in a defamation case, which for all your bluster you apparently have no idea what this means.excelhedge wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:01 pm still a shame we won"t get actual facts if the judge keeps dismissing parts of the case.
I don't think he meant it as one. I mean, Excel isn't an angel, but I don't think he's actively malicious?
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
No, excel accused Lemon of coming in to insult him, when all Lemon called excel is "dude". So, it's just excel being overly defensive against people not buying his bullshit.Fionordequester wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:40 pmI don't think he meant it as one. I mean, Excel isn't an angel, but I don't think he's actively malicious?
He kind of confuses me, tbh.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
That's the thing, though. There's a very small percentage of them that do care... And even those need a few hours of civil back & forth till they decide if they want to reconsider.MajinMan wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:05 pm You guys need to stop giving these guys the benefit of the doubt. They don’t give a shit about you or what you have to say.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
