This chapter confirmed a long running gag I had with my friends, that the heroes will never get to use their cool villain powers again but villains sure can. No gigantification for Piccolo, even when it would have been cool in the ToP, but villains like 73 get to do it willy nilly.
I did overall enjoy this one and am looking forward to rereading it.
+I like how it jumped into the action right away.
+Loved Gohan's reference to his Oozaru transformation
+Loved the Piccolo/Gohan banter "I don't know how to feel about you defeating a copy of me so easily" and the clothes beam.
+I find it interesting how careful and strategic Moro is being. He's still scared of something, even going so far to use 73 to store his powers. Very fascinating.
+The Merus mystery is building nicely.
+Jaco's eyesight is still top tier.
=Would have preferred to see more training of Gohan and Piccolo so references to Gohan knowing Piccolo's moves feels less "out of nowhere". It makes sense that he would be familiar with Piccolo's techniques, but since I've never seen a panel of Gohan even witnessing Piccolo's Hellzone Grenade or Gigantification, I immediately head scratch for a while.
-As much as it makes sense and as good as Gohan did before 73's haxx, it's still annoying how quickly the B-team jobs out. They got no wins here. The point of using strong henchmen is so the hero can look strong overcoming them but the B-team can't even overcome the henchmen. Hopefully they get the runback, while Goku and Vegeta fight Moro. There'd be no satisfaction in Goku or Vegeta one-shotting 73 after what he and his crew managed to do to Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin.
Rakurai wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:15 am
I'm a little miffed at how Merus is implied to have ties to Angels as well. Is it impossible for new characters to have unique histories which have no relations to the gods above?
This is DB we're talking about (especially Super). Usually the most convenient path is the one that's taken. Making a character related to one of the most mysterious and powerful species of beings is the easiest way to get them over with the audience. Honestly, I'll take that over more random aliens just being stronger than established characters for no reason. Either that or introduce a new power mechanic into the series that makes random strong aliens make sense. That's what I thought god ki would do, but really, it does very little and doesn't matter when people like Jiren exist.
jplaya2023 wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:09 am
We know in DBZ gohan was superior to a being that was able to scream open dimensions (Super buu) casually. Now gohan (supposedly stronger) can't even beat great value amazo (from DC comics) it's wack
I kind of like it. It opens the door for more creative fights and combatants. Great Value Amazo does crack me up though, because it's true.
I just need it to make a little more sense, otherwise the gains that everyone's made in previous arcs feels more and more useless and it stops feeling like anyone is making any progress strengthwise. The Moro power boost to his cronies lends it some weight here, but it still feels over the top that random space pirates can contend with people thousands of times stronger than Namek arc Final Frieza. And even with abilities like absorption, it seems absurd that Gohan can't just speed blitz 73. But now that I think of it, he did get powered by Gohan's Kamehameha
funrush wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:16 pm
However I've been chomping at the bit to get back to the Yardrat stuff. The idea of Vegeta learning how to shrink/grow, instant TP, use shadow clones, etc. sounds really awesome and a cool way to shake up his fights.
Nooooooo! I feel this is so out of character and kind of goofy for Vegeta. I prefer to keep him separated from that era of DB. At most, I'd like maybe a single clone that talks just as much s*** as he does. That would be hilarious. But I'd rather the DB gimmicks stay with the DB characters. Vegeta's encroached on their territory enough.
Big fan of the characters of Dragon Ball, all of them, especially formerly prominent sub-characters. -__-