"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[SupremeKai25]

I'm personally hoping it's coming back as a seasonal show with like 25 episodes. First 10 or so episodes could be a retelling of the Broly and Moro arcs and the following 15 episodes could be divided between two arcs, an original one and then the End of Z arc.

[Mister_Popo]

I'm personally hoping it's coming back as a seasonal show with like 25 episodes. First 10 or so episodes could be a retelling of the Broly and Moro arcs and the following 15 episodes could be divided between two arcs, an original one and then the End of Z arc.

4 arcs crammed into 25 episodes? No thx.
I'd say the Moro arc as such could lend itself for 25 episodes already.

[JulieYBM]

I'm personally hoping it's coming back as a seasonal show with like 25 episodes. First 10 or so episodes could be a retelling of the Broly and Moro arcs and the following 15 episodes could be divided between two arcs, an original one and then the End of Z arc.

4 arcs crammed into 25 episodes? No thx.
I'd say the Moro arc as such could lend itself for 25 episodes already.

There's maybe five episodes worth of content from the comic to adapt. Twenty-five episodes is far too many episodes to stretch a small story over.

[Mister_Popo]

I'm personally hoping it's coming back as a seasonal show with like 25 episodes. First 10 or so episodes could be a retelling of the Broly and Moro arcs and the following 15 episodes could be divided between two arcs, an original one and then the End of Z arc.

4 arcs crammed into 25 episodes? No thx.
I'd say the Moro arc as such could lend itself for 25 episodes already.

There's maybe five episodes worth of content from the comic to adapt. Twenty-five episodes is far too many episodes to stretch a small story over.

It feels like a substantial arc. Which major arc in anime only gets 5 episodes? That's mostly filler.
It's been going on since December last year and already spans 12 months / issues.
They could easily give us another 6 months in the manga or at least 3-4. They can't really cramm that in 5 episodes in my opinion. That's way too short to cover the events. 15 episodes ... maybe.
The pacing would be huge when covering that ground over 5 episodes.
The Moro arc moreover beholds much more than BOG or U6, and they were 13-14 episode-arcs.

[JulieYBM]

4 arcs crammed into 25 episodes? No thx.
I'd say the Moro arc as such could lend itself for 25 episodes already.

There's maybe five episodes worth of content from the comic to adapt. Twenty-five episodes is far too many episodes to stretch a small story over.

From the Moro arc? It's a pretty big arc that's been going on since December last year and already spans 12 months / issues.
They could easily give us another 6 months in the manga or at least 3-4. They can't really cramm that in 5 episodes in my opinion. That's way too short to cover the events.
The pacing would be huge, 2 Punch man season 2 would be slow paced compared to that. And that's not the best example of good pacing.
The Moro arc moreover beholds much more than BOG or U6, and they were 13-14 episode-arcs.

The first four arcs of Super should've been 4-8 episodes long, though. Right now the Moro arc is only ten chapters if material and even then it could use trimming thanks to aimless and inefficient scenes that could be written more tightly.

[SupremeKai25]

I'm personally hoping it's coming back as a seasonal show with like 25 episodes. First 10 or so episodes could be a retelling of the Broly and Moro arcs and the following 15 episodes could be divided between two arcs, an original one and then the End of Z arc.

4 arcs crammed into 25 episodes? No thx.
I'd say the Moro arc as such could lend itself for 25 episodes already.

25 episodes for the Moro arc seem absurd. I'd rather avoid another situation like the Tournament of Power arc where it just drags out for far too long.

I mean, maybe you can remove the third original arc I was talking about and have only 3 arcs in those 25 episodes (which is more than enough), but an entire season just for one arc is a big No for me.

[Mister_Popo]

There's maybe five episodes worth of content from the comic to adapt. Twenty-five episodes is far too many episodes to stretch a small story over.

From the Moro arc? It's a pretty big arc that's been going on since December last year and already spans 12 months / issues.
They could easily give us another 6 months in the manga or at least 3-4. They can't really cramm that in 5 episodes in my opinion. That's way too short to cover the events.
The pacing would be huge, 2 Punch man season 2 would be slow paced compared to that. And that's not the best example of good pacing.
The Moro arc moreover beholds much more than BOG or U6, and they were 13-14 episode-arcs.

The first four arcs of Super should've been 4-8 episodes long, though. Right now the Moro arc is only ten chapters if material and even then it could use trimming thanks to aimless and inefficient scenes that could be written more tightly.

If they keep the story more or less the same ... it wouldn't be fitting.
Build-up and slow pacing is necessary from time to time to bring a good story.
They could completely rewrite the Moro -arc in five episodes or even a movie-format, but would it add up to the quality?
Even if it's rewritten, you'll get a very crammed story like One Punch Man season 2 fe.

[Mister_Popo]

I'm personally hoping it's coming back as a seasonal show with like 25 episodes. First 10 or so episodes could be a retelling of the Broly and Moro arcs and the following 15 episodes could be divided between two arcs, an original one and then the End of Z arc.

4 arcs crammed into 25 episodes? No thx.
I'd say the Moro arc as such could lend itself for 25 episodes already.

25 episodes for the Moro arc seem absurd. I'd rather avoid another situation like the Tournament of Power arc where it just drags out for far too long.

I mean, maybe you can remove the third original arc I was talking about and have only 3 arcs in those 25 episodes (which is more than enough), but an entire season just for one arc is a big No for me.

TOP is a very extreme example of not so much story spread over an awful lot of episodes. I agree on that.
You once said, if i remember correct, 20 episodes was too few for the Zamasu arc.
Why should the Moro arc, which is one of the better stories of Super besides Zamasu, only get 5?

[SupremeKai25]

4 arcs crammed into 25 episodes? No thx.
I'd say the Moro arc as such could lend itself for 25 episodes already.

25 episodes for the Moro arc seem absurd. I'd rather avoid another situation like the Tournament of Power arc where it just drags out for far too long.

I mean, maybe you can remove the third original arc I was talking about and have only 3 arcs in those 25 episodes (which is more than enough), but an entire season just for one arc is a big No for me.

TOP is a very extreme example of not so much story spread over an awful lot of episodes. I agree on that.
You once said, if i remember correct, 20 episodes was too few for the Zamasu arc.
Why should the Moro arc, which is one of the better stories of Super besides Zamasu, only get 5?

Well what I meant by that is that the Tournament of Power arc had like 50 episodes compared to the 20 episodes of the Zamasu arc, so I would have cut some stuff from the Recruitment phase of the ToP and used them to better tell the ending of the Zamasu arc. In the context of Super 1.0, which was a weekly anime with 131 episodes, the Zamasu arc should have been a little longer. But I remember reading Julie's version of the arc which is like 10 episodes long and I liked it a lot. I have no problem with a 10 episodes story arc if the story is well-structured, so not rushed and not dragged out either.

I'll admit that I don't know a lot about the Moro arc so maybe I shouldn't be talking about it, but I have seen a lot of people say that it wasn't really an important arc and that stuck in my mind. I don't know maybe I am wrong, as I've said I haven't read the manga of the Moro arc.

[JulieYBM]

Covering about ninety pages of the comic per chapter--if not more with creative decisions--is the best option. In television you can cover a lot of ground quickly when you have professional actors reading the dialogue quickly and with energy. Instead of dragging stories out we should be thinking of how to efficiently use time to create the best episodes possible, rather than slogs.

Here's a rough idea of how things should flow (I'm not entirely pleased with the work below):

Spoiler:

Galactic Prisoner Moro Arc:

Episode #58: “A Galactic Battle Breaks Out?!”
•Cranberry—a member of Freeza’s Force—and an old man in a cloak escape from a Ginga Patrol prison.
•Opening:
•Son Gokuu and Vegeta train with Broli on Planet Vampa. Broli has slowly become adept at controlling his Super Saiyan form (with the golden hair) and is even beginning to pick up on martial arts techniques. After taking a brutal counter, Super Saiyan Blue Gokuu praises Broli for mixing his unrefined style with refined martial arts. Broli bows and thanks the other two Saiyans for their time.
•Title Card:
•A Part: Gokuu and Vegeta return to Capsule Corp ragged and ravaged. Blooma admonishes the two Saiyans for being missing during a crisis! It turns out that Majin Buu is being kidnapped!! Gokuu and Vegeta teleport to Mister Satan’s mansion and confront a group of Ginga Patrol officers who are carrying off a sleeping Majin Buu. Gokuu tries to interfere but is caught off guard by Merus’ movement and knocked unconscious by his stun-gun. Gokuu and Vegeta awake on the Ginga Patrol ship and have the situation explained to them by Jako. The unconscious Majin Buu is being recruited because within him lies the Dai-Kaiou-Shin. Ten million years ago the Dai-Kaiou-Shin defeated ‘Moro the Planet-Eater’ by sealing away his magic. Now, Moro has begun to regain his magic and has escaped the Ginga Patrol Prison! The problem is that Majin Buu is still asleep! Gokuu senses for Moro’s location but breaks off the search when he realizes that Moro was able to sense him sensing for him! Gokuu realizes that Moro is headed for New Namek, much to his and Vegeta’s chagrin. “He must be after the Dragon Balls…” reasons Vegeta. Gokuu and Vegeta shower and change into Ginga Patrol uniforms since their regular outfits are shredded from training with Broli. Gokuu realizes that the Senzu he had on hand are missing and Jako mentions that when they brought Gokuu and Vegeta onto the ship he noticed something fell out of his dougi but was in too big a hurry to retrieve it. Gokuu sighs and tells Vegeta that they’re going to have to make do with their injured bodies and a third of their usual strength.
•B Part: Meanwhile, Moro and Cranberry land on New Namek only to be greeted by two strange Galatic Patrol agents, one of whom Cranberry recognizes as Vegeta. Moro senses a young Namekian—Esca—hiding in a hut and uses his telekinesis to draw him toward him. Vegeta saves Esca and admits the he’s determined to right his wrongs against the Namekians. Vegeta attacks Moro but with his reduced speed he is about even with the feeble old Moro. Suddenly, Moro absorbs Vegeta’s ki and leaves him out of breath. Gokuu steps in and attacks Moro. Moro inevitably eats Gokuu’s ki and leaves him and Vegeta unconscious.
•Ending:
•Moro and Cranberry fly off to search for the Dragon Balls.

Episode #59: “Moro the Planet-Eater”
•Jako, Merus and Majin Buu—who has now awaken—approach New Namek.
•Opening:
•In a montage we see how Esca is slowly restoring Gokuu and Vegeta’s health over the course of three days. Meanwhile, Moro is slowly collecting the Dragon Balls!
•Title Card:
•A Part: Gokuu and Vegeta finally wake up to learn that Moro is heading towards the seventh Dragon Ball. Gokuu and Vegeta don new Namekian outfits and leave Moori’s shelter to confront Moro—despite their weakened state. Gokuu and Vegeta battle Moro while Cranberry confronts Moori for the final Dragon Ball. Vegeta surprises all by tapping into Migatte no Goku’i: Omen and keeping Moro on the ropes and unable to eat his ki. Finally, Cranberry summons Polunga and wishes for his health to be restored, and Moro’s magic to be restored. Moori, beaten senseless by Cranberry, wishes allowed that Nail was here to save New Namek. As a result, Piccolo and Nail split apart back on Earth and Nail is teleported to New Namek. Confused, Nail accepts the dying Moori’s power and knowledge by merging with him. Now understanding the situation, Nail crushes Cranberry and kills him once and for all. Nail frees Esca from Cranberry’s mind control device and watch as Polunga returns to his sleeping place. Nail wonders why Polunga didn’t die but Esca explains that he is now the successor of the Grand Elder Moori. Meanwhile, Moro’s magic has been fully restored and with it his ability to easily crush the exhausted Vegeta and Gokuu.
•B Part: The Ginga Patrol arrives on New Namek. Majin Buu battles Moro, showing that he is immune to Moro’s magic and seems to have far more stamina than him. As the battle heats up the Dai-Kaiou-Shin’s consciousness takes over Majin Buu and handles fighting his old foe, Moro. Moro’s strength is returning quickly and with it his youth! The Dai-Kaiou-Shin is chagrined to find that after Majin Buu into his Evil form he lost his god power and now can no longer use his sealing spell on Moro. Meanwhile, Nail and Esca are visited by the best warriors of New Namek. Much to Nail’s regret he merges with them and grows exponentially more powerful. Nail and Esca set off back to the scene of the battle. Nail catches Moro off guard and Rider Kicks the planet-eater miles away. Vegeta recognizes Nail and thinks that they might just have a chance now. The Dai-Kaiou-Shin heals Gokuu and Vegeta back to their full strength and the four warriors prepare for the next confrontation with Moro.
•Ending:
•Moro digs himself out of a mountain, scoffs, and decides to leave New Namek.

Episode #60: “A Change in Tactics”
•On Earth Dende and Piccolo wonder why Nail suddenly split from Piccolo. After tracing his ki they’ve located him as being on New Namek.
•Opening:
•Moro returns to his ship and takes off for space. Gokuu and the others give chase but soon hit the limit of how far out away from a planet they can travel. Merus with his space suit and the Dai-Kaiou-Shin continue into space while the others hop aboard the Ginga Patrol ship. A heated cat-and-mouse game through an asteroid field takes place. Moro turns back to his pursuers and laughs. With a snap of his fingers a large charge of his magic seems to fly out of his body. On the ship, Jako traces the energy to…
•Title Card:
•A Part: A week ago, when Moro escaped, he left behind a small piece of his magic. This magic has remained dormant until more of his magical energy could interact with it. Now, a large stream of light bursts through the walls of the Ginga Prison and merges with that magical energy. The two energies mix and swirl until it generates and explosion of energy that unlocks all of the prison cells. The Ginga Patrol panics as all criminals escape the prison, some clearly working for Moro. Meanwhile, Jako and the others receive a message indicating that Moro has indeed freed all of the prisoners from the Ginga Prison. Super Saiyan Blue Gokuu raises his ki without destroying the ship he’s riding on and teleports onto Moro’s ship. Grabbing him, Gokuu tries to teleport Moro back to New Namek but Moro resists by using a palm thrust on Gokuu’s unguarded chest. As a result of this tumble Moro’s ship crashes into an asteroid. Gokuu consciously puts the practices of Migatte no Goku’i into practice but cannot assume the form while doing his best to hold his breath in space. Finally, Merus and the Dai-Kaiou-Shin catch up and find Gokuu hanging on by a thread. Moro’s body finishes returning to its prime state and blasts the half-suffocating Gokuu back so hard that he nearly crashes through the windshield of Iriko’s ship. Vegeta and the others retrieve the partially naked and unconscious Son Gokuu. Meanwhile, Moro and his two foes play hide-and-seek in the asteroid field. Sensing something approaching, Moro uses his magic to turn the asteroids into a rock monster to keep his foes busy while he boards a newly arrived ship. Esca awakens Gokuu by partially healing him, “I can’t restore your lost blood but at least the wound has been healed, Gokuu-san!” Gokuu thanks Esca and prepares to teleport Vegeta and Nail with him onto Moro’s new ship. Vegeta, however, declines, stating that it’ll just be a waste of time as they currently are. Nail grips his fist until his sharp nails cut into his skin and draw blood, “I regretfully concur…” On Saganbo’s ship the bandit leader deploys his forces across the galaxy to find suitable planets ripe for consumption by Moro.
•B Part: Meanwhile, Vegeta decides that it’s time that he trains separately from Kakarotto again and asks Iriko to take him to Planet Yardrat. Gokuu asks Merus to train him and the agent agrees. Gokuu’s group teleports to Ginga Patrol HQ. Vegeta and Iriko take the ship to Planet Yardrat. Elsewhere, Saganbo’s bandits scour the galaxy for suitable planets. Saganbo’s men clear up Planet Zoon, injuring its warriors and stealing its wealth. Afterward, Moro eats the planet and increases his strength once again. Meanwhile, Pasta’s group recalls that Earth was said to have Blue Aurum and set course for the Earth.
•Ending:
•Meanwhile, Vegeta and Iriko arrive on Planet Yardrat. After being greeted by a Yardratian that can create multiple copies of himself Vegeta is introduced to Elder Pybara, the one who taught Gokuu to teleport. Pybara explains that they achieve their various techniques through ‘Spirit Control’, or the control of ki.

Episode #61: “OG73-I”
•Pasta and his siblings land in the desert so as to not draw attention. However, before they can set out in search of Blue Aurum two figures appear on the scene.
•Opening:
•Son Gokuu and Merus train in a room similar to the Room of Spirit & Time. In this room, however, in this room three days is equivalent to one day outside of the room. Gokuu and Merus begin training right away to achieve the Migatte no Goku’i.
•Title Card:
•A Part: Piccolo, Dende, Mister Popo, Blooma, Bra and Mister Satan greet Nail, Esca and Jako. Piccolo asks what happened to Son Gokuu and Vegeta and Nail explains that they are both training. Dende proposes that he train Esca in the duties of a Dragon Clansman and the boy agrees happily. Meanwhile, Piccolo and Nail spar. Although Piccolo’s power did not drop when Nail left him it would seem that Nail has surpassed him. Meanwhile, Pasta’s siblings arrive on Earth. Piccolo and Nail break from their spar upon sensing the arrival of the Macareni Gang. Jako tells them that he needs the two Namekians’ help, especially since he came to ask Piccolo to help the Ginga Patrol like Gokuu and Vegeta. Piccolo declares that he will face the new visitors and Nail tags along. Flashing forward, Pasta greets the welcoming party of Piccolo and Nail. Pasta and Ghetti attack the two Namekians, using weapons and trickery to keep them at bay while Penne informs Saganbo via radio that Earth has powerful warriors. Hearing of this news, Moro tells Saganbo to send another team to Earth to ensure that the message—which was abruptly cut off—is true. Meanwhile, Penne attacks Piccolo for destroying her radio. Jako arrives on the scene and stuns the Macareni Gang with his gun, successfully recapturing them.
•B Part: Yunba, Shimorekka and Seven-Three discuss what exactly this Earth place is supposed to be like while speeding there in their spaceship. At the Heavenly Realm, Jako explains that OG73-I has been spotted heading to Earth. Jako explains that ‘Seven-Three’ is a powerful being that even Merus had difficulty capturing. “Not only does Seven-Three have unlimited stamina but if he grabs you by the neck he can copy your power for thirty minutes!” Meanwhile, Vegeta struggles with controlling his ki. Elsewhere, Shimorekka’s crew takes a detour on Seven-Three’s suggestion. On this planet the trio battles a race of hedgehog people with various techniques. Back on Earth, Kuririn and Artificial Human #18 explain on a video call that they can’t get in touch with Tenshinhan since he doesn’t have a cell phone and Yamcha is off world due to having joined an intergalactic baseball league. Kuririn sighs and says he’ll help out since #18 doesn’t really feel like it and Artificial Human #17 is busy with his job. “Besides, we don’t know if Moro can absorb the ki of beings with infinite energy so it’s best to keep them away,” adds Piccolo. A short while later, Kuririn (Artificial Humans arc dougi with Majin Buu arc hair) arrives at the Heavenly Realm with Son Gohan (wearing the dougi created by Kibito in the Majin Buu arc, but still with his hair style from the Golden Freeza arc). Piccolo explains the forthcoming enemy after a brief reunion between Nail, Kuririn and Gohan. Suddenly, a portal opens up on the Heavenly Realm and out from it comes…a spaceship?!
•Ending:
•Shimorekka’s crew exits their ship and head straight for the captured Pasta, telling him that they’re here to kill him on Moro’s orders. Gohan stops Shimorekka just in time but as a result he drops his guard enough for Seven-Three to grab it.

Episode #62: “The Terrifying Copy Warrior: Seven-Three”
•Having copied Son Gohan’s power, Seven-Three uses a karate chop on the back of Gohan’s neck to knock him unconscious before he can transform into a Super Saiyan. Piccolo, Nail, Jako and Kuririn draw the three bandits away from the Heavenly Realm while Dende heals Gohan.
•Opening:
•Piccolo finds himself overwhelmed by the strength and speed of Seven-Three. Although he knows how Gohan fights Piccolo cannot keep up with Seven-Three’s speed.
•Title Card:
•A Part: Nail steps in to help Piccolo but Yunba follows and tries to tear Nail away from helping. Kuririn and Jako team up against Shimorekka but keep bumping into one another due to a lack of teamwork. Gohan arrives on the scene and helps the two Namekians overwhelm Seven-Three. Backed into a corner, Seven-Three uses another power he stored within him: that of Moro. Draining their ki, Seven-Three thwarts his foes and leaves them on the ground. Shimorekka and the others decide to return to Moro so that he will have more to consume when he comes to Earth himself.
•B Part:
•Ending:

[head_cha_la]

I honestly hope they wouldn't copy it chapter for chapter. If Super does return I do hope they start with the moro arc, but hope they do it differently then toyotoro.

They won't copy it, at the time the Champa arc was ahead of the anime, Toei didn't copy it.

Why will they do it now?

[Mister_Popo]

Covering about ninety pages of the comic per chapter--if not more with creative decisions--is the best option. In television you can cover a lot of ground quickly when you have professional actors reading the dialogue quickly and with energy. Instead of dragging stories out we should be thinking of how to efficiently use time to create the best episodes possible, rather than slogs.

Here's a rough idea of how things should flow (I'm not entirely pleased with the work below):

Spoiler:

Galactic Prisoner Moro Arc:

Episode #58: “A Galactic Battle Breaks Out?!”
•Cranberry—a member of Freeza’s Force—and an old man in a cloak escape from a Ginga Patrol prison.
•Opening:
•Son Gokuu and Vegeta train with Broli on Planet Vampa. Broli has slowly become adept at controlling his Super Saiyan form (with the golden hair) and is even beginning to pick up on martial arts techniques. After taking a brutal counter, Super Saiyan Blue Gokuu praises Broli for mixing his unrefined style with refined martial arts. Broli bows and thanks the other two Saiyans for their time.
•Title Card:
•A Part: Gokuu and Vegeta return to Capsule Corp ragged and ravaged. Blooma admonishes the two Saiyans for being missing during a crisis! It turns out that Majin Buu is being kidnapped!! Gokuu and Vegeta teleport to Mister Satan’s mansion and confront a group of Ginga Patrol officers who are carrying off a sleeping Majin Buu. Gokuu tries to interfere but is caught off guard by Merus’ movement and knocked unconscious by his stun-gun. Gokuu and Vegeta awake on the Ginga Patrol ship and have the situation explained to them by Jako. The unconscious Majin Buu is being recruited because within him lies the Dai-Kaiou-Shin. Ten million years ago the Dai-Kaiou-Shin defeated ‘Moro the Planet-Eater’ by sealing away his magic. Now, Moro has begun to regain his magic and has escaped the Ginga Patrol Prison! The problem is that Majin Buu is still asleep! Gokuu senses for Moro’s location but breaks off the search when he realizes that Moro was able to sense him sensing for him! Gokuu realizes that Moro is headed for New Namek, much to his and Vegeta’s chagrin. “He must be after the Dragon Balls…” reasons Vegeta. Gokuu and Vegeta shower and change into Ginga Patrol uniforms since their regular outfits are shredded from training with Broli. Gokuu realizes that the Senzu he had on hand are missing and Jako mentions that when they brought Gokuu and Vegeta onto the ship he noticed something fell out of his dougi but was in too big a hurry to retrieve it. Gokuu sighs and tells Vegeta that they’re going to have to make do with their injured bodies and a third of their usual strength.
•B Part: Meanwhile, Moro and Cranberry land on New Namek only to be greeted by two strange Galatic Patrol agents, one of whom Cranberry recognizes as Vegeta. Moro senses a young Namekian—Esca—hiding in a hut and uses his telekinesis to draw him toward him. Vegeta saves Esca and admits the he’s determined to right his wrongs against the Namekians. Vegeta attacks Moro but with his reduced speed he is about even with the feeble old Moro. Suddenly, Moro absorbs Vegeta’s ki and leaves him out of breath. Gokuu steps in and attacks Moro. Moro inevitably eats Gokuu’s ki and leaves him and Vegeta unconscious.
•Ending:
•Moro and Cranberry fly off to search for the Dragon Balls.

Episode #59: “Moro the Planet-Eater”
•Jako, Merus and Majin Buu—who has now awaken—approach New Namek.
•Opening:
•In a montage we see how Esca is slowly restoring Gokuu and Vegeta’s health over the course of three days. Meanwhile, Moro is slowly collecting the Dragon Balls!
•Title Card:
•A Part: Gokuu and Vegeta finally wake up to learn that Moro is heading towards the seventh Dragon Ball. Gokuu and Vegeta don new Namekian outfits and leave Moori’s shelter to confront Moro—despite their weakened state. Gokuu and Vegeta battle Moro while Cranberry confronts Moori for the final Dragon Ball. Vegeta surprises all by tapping into Migatte no Goku’i: Omen and keeping Moro on the ropes and unable to eat his ki. Finally, Cranberry summons Polunga and wishes for his health to be restored, and Moro’s magic to be restored. Moori, beaten senseless by Cranberry, wishes allowed that Nail was here to save New Namek. As a result, Piccolo and Nail split apart back on Earth and Nail is teleported to New Namek. Confused, Nail accepts the dying Moori’s power and knowledge by merging with him. Now understanding the situation, Nail crushes Cranberry and kills him once and for all. Nail frees Esca from Cranberry’s mind control device and watch as Polunga returns to his sleeping place. Nail wonders why Polunga didn’t die but Esca explains that he is now the successor of the Grand Elder Moori. Meanwhile, Moro’s magic has been fully restored and with it his ability to easily crush the exhausted Vegeta and Gokuu.
•B Part: The Ginga Patrol arrives on New Namek. Majin Buu battles Moro, showing that he is immune to Moro’s magic and seems to have far more stamina than him. As the battle heats up the Dai-Kaiou-Shin’s consciousness takes over Majin Buu and handles fighting his old foe, Moro. Moro’s strength is returning quickly and with it his youth! The Dai-Kaiou-Shin is chagrined to find that after Majin Buu into his Evil form he lost his god power and now can no longer use his sealing spell on Moro. Meanwhile, Nail and Esca are visited by the best warriors of New Namek. Much to Nail’s regret he merges with them and grows exponentially more powerful. Nail and Esca set off back to the scene of the battle. Nail catches Moro off guard and Rider Kicks the planet-eater miles away. Vegeta recognizes Nail and thinks that they might just have a chance now. The Dai-Kaiou-Shin heals Gokuu and Vegeta back to their full strength and the four warriors prepare for the next confrontation with Moro.
•Ending:
•Moro digs himself out of a mountain, scoffs, and decides to leave New Namek.

Episode #60: “A Change in Tactics”
•On Earth Dende and Piccolo wonder why Nail suddenly split from Piccolo. After tracing his ki they’ve located him as being on New Namek.
•Opening:
•Moro returns to his ship and takes off for space. Gokuu and the others give chase but soon hit the limit of how far out away from a planet they can travel. Merus with his space suit and the Dai-Kaiou-Shin continue into space while the others hop aboard the Ginga Patrol ship. A heated cat-and-mouse game through an asteroid field takes place. Moro turns back to his pursuers and laughs. With a snap of his fingers a large charge of his magic seems to fly out of his body. On the ship, Jako traces the energy to…
•Title Card:
•A Part: A week ago, when Moro escaped, he left behind a small piece of his magic. This magic has remained dormant until more of his magical energy could interact with it. Now, a large stream of light bursts through the walls of the Ginga Prison and merges with that magical energy. The two energies mix and swirl until it generates and explosion of energy that unlocks all of the prison cells. The Ginga Patrol panics as all criminals escape the prison, some clearly working for Moro. Meanwhile, Jako and the others receive a message indicating that Moro has indeed freed all of the prisoners from the Ginga Prison. Super Saiyan Blue Gokuu raises his ki without destroying the ship he’s riding on and teleports onto Moro’s ship. Grabbing him, Gokuu tries to teleport Moro back to New Namek but Moro resists by using a palm thrust on Gokuu’s unguarded chest. As a result of this tumble Moro’s ship crashes into an asteroid. Gokuu consciously puts the practices of Migatte no Goku’i into practice but cannot assume the form while doing his best to hold his breath in space. Finally, Merus and the Dai-Kaiou-Shin catch up and find Gokuu hanging on by a thread. Moro’s body finishes returning to its prime state and blasts the half-suffocating Gokuu back so hard that he nearly crashes through the windshield of Iriko’s ship. Vegeta and the others retrieve the partially naked and unconscious Son Gokuu. Meanwhile, Moro and his two foes play hide-and-seek in the asteroid field. Sensing something approaching, Moro uses his magic to turn the asteroids into a rock monster to keep his foes busy while he boards a newly arrived ship. Esca awakens Gokuu by partially healing him, “I can’t restore your lost blood but at least the wound has been healed, Gokuu-san!” Gokuu thanks Esca and prepares to teleport Vegeta and Nail with him onto Moro’s new ship. Vegeta, however, declines, stating that it’ll just be a waste of time as they currently are. Nail grips his fist until his sharp nails cut into his skin and draw blood, “I regretfully concur…” On Saganbo’s ship the bandit leader deploys his forces across the galaxy to find suitable planets ripe for consumption by Moro.
•B Part: Meanwhile, Vegeta decides that it’s time that he trains separately from Kakarotto again and asks Iriko to take him to Planet Yardrat. Gokuu asks Merus to train him and the agent agrees. Gokuu’s group teleports to Ginga Patrol HQ. Vegeta and Iriko take the ship to Planet Yardrat. Elsewhere, Saganbo’s bandits scour the galaxy for suitable planets. Saganbo’s men clear up Planet Zoon, injuring its warriors and stealing its wealth. Afterward, Moro eats the planet and increases his strength once again. Meanwhile, Pasta’s group recalls that Earth was said to have Blue Aurum and set course for the Earth.
•Ending:
•Meanwhile, Vegeta and Iriko arrive on Planet Yardrat. After being greeted by a Yardratian that can create multiple copies of himself Vegeta is introduced to Elder Pybara, the one who taught Gokuu to teleport. Pybara explains that they achieve their various techniques through ‘Spirit Control’, or the control of ki.

Episode #61: “OG73-I”
•Pasta and his siblings land in the desert so as to not draw attention. However, before they can set out in search of Blue Aurum two figures appear on the scene.
•Opening:
•Son Gokuu and Merus train in a room similar to the Room of Spirit & Time. In this room, however, in this room three days is equivalent to one day outside of the room. Gokuu and Merus begin training right away to achieve the Migatte no Goku’i.
•Title Card:
•A Part: Piccolo, Dende, Mister Popo, Blooma, Bra and Mister Satan greet Nail, Esca and Jako. Piccolo asks what happened to Son Gokuu and Vegeta and Nail explains that they are both training. Dende proposes that he train Esca in the duties of a Dragon Clansman and the boy agrees happily. Meanwhile, Piccolo and Nail spar. Although Piccolo’s power did not drop when Nail left him it would seem that Nail has surpassed him. Meanwhile, Pasta’s siblings arrive on Earth. Piccolo and Nail break from their spar upon sensing the arrival of the Macareni Gang. Jako tells them that he needs the two Namekians’ help, especially since he came to ask Piccolo to help the Ginga Patrol like Gokuu and Vegeta. Piccolo declares that he will face the new visitors and Nail tags along. Flashing forward, Pasta greets the welcoming party of Piccolo and Nail. Pasta and Ghetti attack the two Namekians, using weapons and trickery to keep them at bay while Penne informs Saganbo via radio that Earth has powerful warriors. Hearing of this news, Moro tells Saganbo to send another team to Earth to ensure that the message—which was abruptly cut off—is true. Meanwhile, Penne attacks Piccolo for destroying her radio. Jako arrives on the scene and stuns the Macareni Gang with his gun, successfully recapturing them.
•B Part: Yunba, Shimorekka and Seven-Three discuss what exactly this Earth place is supposed to be like while speeding there in their spaceship. At the Heavenly Realm, Jako explains that OG73-I has been spotted heading to Earth. Jako explains that ‘Seven-Three’ is a powerful being that even Merus had difficulty capturing. “Not only does Seven-Three have unlimited stamina but if he grabs you by the neck he can copy your power for thirty minutes!” Meanwhile, Vegeta struggles with controlling his ki. Elsewhere, Shimorekka’s crew takes a detour on Seven-Three’s suggestion. On this planet the trio battles a race of hedgehog people with various techniques. Back on Earth, Kuririn and Artificial Human #18 explain on a video call that they can’t get in touch with Tenshinhan since he doesn’t have a cell phone and Yamcha is off world due to having joined an intergalactic baseball league. Kuririn sighs and says he’ll help out since #18 doesn’t really feel like it and Artificial Human #17 is busy with his job. “Besides, we don’t know if Moro can absorb the ki of beings with infinite energy so it’s best to keep them away,” adds Piccolo. A short while later, Kuririn (Artificial Humans arc dougi with Majin Buu arc hair) arrives at the Heavenly Realm with Son Gohan (wearing the dougi created by Kibito in the Majin Buu arc, but still with his hair style from the Golden Freeza arc). Piccolo explains the forthcoming enemy after a brief reunion between Nail, Kuririn and Gohan. Suddenly, a portal opens up on the Heavenly Realm and out from it comes…a spaceship?!
•Ending:
•Shimorekka’s crew exits their ship and head straight for the captured Pasta, telling him that they’re here to kill him on Moro’s orders. Gohan stops Shimorekka just in time but as a result he drops his guard enough for Seven-Three to grab it.

Episode #62: “The Terrifying Copy Warrior: Seven-Three”
•Having copied Son Gohan’s power, Seven-Three uses a karate chop on the back of Gohan’s neck to knock him unconscious before he can transform into a Super Saiyan. Piccolo, Nail, Jako and Kuririn draw the three bandits away from the Heavenly Realm while Dende heals Gohan.
•Opening:
•Piccolo finds himself overwhelmed by the strength and speed of Seven-Three. Although he knows how Gohan fights Piccolo cannot keep up with Seven-Three’s speed.
•Title Card:
•A Part: Nail steps in to help Piccolo but Yunba follows and tries to tear Nail away from helping. Kuririn and Jako team up against Shimorekka but keep bumping into one another due to a lack of teamwork. Gohan arrives on the scene and helps the two Namekians overwhelm Seven-Three. Backed into a corner, Seven-Three uses another power he stored within him: that of Moro. Draining their ki, Seven-Three thwarts his foes and leaves them on the ground. Shimorekka and the others decide to return to Moro so that he will have more to consume when he comes to Earth himself.
•B Part:
•Ending:

It's definitely a nice effort, Julie. The arcs don't have to be as long as in DBZ. I agree. But it may have a little stretch for my taste. Dragon Ball may have some tension build-up for the fights etc. You have to be able to 'feel' the story and that takes some time. You need some acceptable pacing as well in a Shounen anime. 10 or 12 episodes for Moro arc would be the bare minimum as far as i'm concerned.

[RecolorSaiyan]

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"At Jump Festa 2020, I'll prove that I'm the strongest of all! Just you wait and watch!
#Jump #JumpFesta #DragonBall #Vegeta"
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[Mister_Popo]

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"At Jump Festa 2020, I'll prove that I'm the strongest of all! Just you wait and watch!
#Jump #JumpFesta #DragonBall #Vegeta"
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Is he going to demolish the stand?

[RecolorSaiyan]

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"At Jump Festa 2020, I'll prove that I'm the strongest of all! Just you wait and watch!
#Jump #JumpFesta #DragonBall #Vegeta"
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Is he going to demolish the stand?

Most likely related to the live voice acting of Moro they are doing at JF, small chance a Vegeta movie gets announced

[emperior]

Wait, Kitaro is ending in March? I didn't know that.

It was announced to enter its last arc a few months ago, but now we have listings of its Box 8: https://books.rakuten.co.jp/rb/15960557 ... em-text-03
Which only goes from episode 87-97. So 11 episodes compared to the usual 12. Meaning it’s ending in March.

Mind you, this is exactly the same way we discovered Super was ending, almost two years ago.

And this time it coincides with two Jump Festa panels about the anime of Dragon Ball Super, and no other show has been announced or hinted to take Kitaro’s 9AM timeslot, which is a Toei timeslot.

[Zelvin]

I for one really don't care much for the Moro arc. Honestly it feels like a massive waste of time and a huge step backward. It's basically wanting to have a bunch of space criminals to replace Bojack for the canon, and have an evil space wizard who is basically Tirek&Grogar from MLP. Zero-Three is an android with temp-copy ability. Not all that inventive there. Having it be able to copy Magic abilities seems pretty BS though.

As far as to how a new season should start, I don't feel a re-telling of the Broly movie is necessary. It's better to move forward from there and try to build on the relations between U7 and U6. We should see what relationships and conflicts spawn after the events of the Broly movie. What Frieza plans on doing, how Broly will train, and what Vegeta will do about visiting Planet Sadala in U6 following the ToP. A lot of promises have been made, and they're all swept aside for the Moro arc in the manga. That doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

I find the whole premise with "Spirit Control" to be nonsensical. Because it's basically what the Z-fighters have been doing for decades. Piccolo can already use Expansion and Cloning. So if such control is necessary to counter Moro, then Piccolo would be their best bet. But even ignoring that, controlling their energy was something they were being taught by Whis prior to the U6 Tournament. Goku and Vegeta had to control and hold their energy within in order to move in that God-space that Whis trapped them in.

Given that, I feel like the whole Moro arc should be cut out. Because it's nothing more than another character regression. Just another instance of making them all forget things they already know and have learned and making them redo everything all over again. Resetting these characters again is just an absolute waste of time. And the fact that they refuse to have Broly involved just gives the impression he's just going to go the way of the U6 Saiyans; Ignored and forgotten about. It's the Goku and Vegeta show! Everyone else is irrelevant.

[JulieYBM]

Glad to see that we're getting a better idea of when Kitarou ends. I just hope that pre-production of the next series is already well underway, if not animation already finished on the first rotation of episodes.

[Tai Lung]

I'm personally hoping it's coming back as a seasonal show with like 25 episodes. First 10 or so episodes could be a retelling of the Broly and Moro arcs and the following 15 episodes could be divided between two arcs, an original one and then the End of Z arc.

4 arcs crammed into 25 episodes? No thx.
I'd say the Moro arc as such could lend itself for 25 episodes already.

25 episodes for the Moro arc seem absurd. I'd rather avoid another situation like the Tournament of Power arc where it just drags out for far too long.

I mean, maybe you can remove the third original arc I was talking about and have only 3 arcs in those 25 episodes (which is more than enough), but an entire season just for one arc is a big No for me.

There is a big difference ... there were too many new characters that should have protagonism and development in that story

I for one really don't care much for the Moro arc. Honestly it feels like a massive waste of time and a huge step backward. It's basically wanting to have a bunch of space criminals to replace Bojack for the canon, and have an evil space wizard who is basically Tirek&Grogar from MLP. Zero-Three is an android with temp-copy ability. Not all that inventive there. Having it be able to copy Magic abilities seems pretty BS though.

As far as to how a new season should start, I don't feel a re-telling of the Broly movie is necessary. It's better to move forward from there and try to build on the relations between U7 and U6. We should see what relationships and conflicts spawn after the events of the Broly movie. What Frieza plans on doing, how Broly will train, and what Vegeta will do about visiting Planet Sadala in U6 following the ToP. A lot of promises have been made, and they're all swept aside for the Moro arc in the manga. That doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

I find the whole premise with "Spirit Control" to be nonsensical. Because it's basically what the Z-fighters have been doing for decades. Piccolo can already use Expansion and Cloning. So if such control is necessary to counter Moro, then Piccolo would be their best bet. But even ignoring that, controlling their energy was something they were being taught by Whis prior to the U6 Tournament. Goku and Vegeta had to control and hold their energy within in order to move in that God-space that Whis trapped them in.

Given that, I feel like the whole Moro arc should be cut out. Because it's nothing more than another character regression. Just another instance of making them all forget things they already know and have learned and making them redo everything all over again. Resetting these characters again is just an absolute waste of time. And the fact that they refuse to have Broly involved just gives the impression he's just going to go the way of the U6 Saiyans; Ignored and forgotten about. It's the Goku and Vegeta show! Everyone else is irrelevant.

I agree

[Mister_Popo]

Glad to see that we're getting a better idea of when Kitarou ends. I just hope that pre-production of the next series is already well underway, if not animation already finished on the first rotation of episodes.

Theoretically it's still possible nothing or not much will get announced. Iyoku can repeat a new movie is still in the works, the VA can give away a quick show to 'entertain' the audience ... And that's about it. All to keep Super under attention. I believe they applied the same tactics last year. Honestly, with all what's been going on this year (or better stated: not going on), i first want to see an official confirmation about the anime returning before i truely believe it.