Those are Salsa and Shroom I beleive, probably in their Makyouka forms. They're... interesting to say the least.Dark_Tzitzimine wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:07 am That opening rules and I am giddy about V4 finally having another story appearance.
Who are the demon Lord's still working with Mechakibura?
Woah, I was always confused with Fin. Apparently you are correct. He was a Majin, absorbed SS4 Gogeta, upon unleashing him he got his battle data, then got absorbed by Mira and collected more data and finally absorbed only the battle data of the Xeno Shadow Dragons, that had been gathered by Towa?MisteryOne wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:40 am Didn't Fin get his "ultimate" form just from absorbing data that Towa collected rather than absorbing someone? I don't think he ever absorbed Mechikaboola either.
Their design is cool and all, but why are their noses like that? Wtf!? It ruins the whole thing for me. But it could be that they turn more into beast and stuff, which actually contradicts the Makyouka form, since it's the human-like empowered state of the Final/Monster Demon God formRinsankajugin wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:32 amThose are Salsa and Shroom I beleive, probably in their Makyouka forms. They're... interesting to say the least.Dark_Tzitzimine wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:07 am That opening rules and I am giddy about V4 finally having another story appearance.
Who are the demon Lord's still working with Mechakibura?
Shroom looks alright, reminds me of a 90's comic book villain, but Salsa... he looks like a fucking sparkle dog.
"Ultimate Timespace Keysword Super Saiyan God Xeno Trunks" really rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?Rakurai wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:00 am Pretty sure that the sword XTrunks is wielding is some upgraded version of the Key Sword that was used to weaken and seal the Hell Gates. The designs at the blade tip and the hilt are similar.
... Let's not open up those can of worms lol (shudders at SS4 Xeno Broly's longass name).Rinsankajugin wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:17 am"Ultimate Timespace Keysword Super Saiyan God Xeno Trunks" really rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?Rakurai wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:00 am Pretty sure that the sword XTrunks is wielding is some upgraded version of the Key Sword that was used to weaken and seal the Hell Gates. The designs at the blade tip and the hilt are similar.
XPan don't count cause we all know she don't fight.
It is because of Mechikabura betraying most of the Dark Demon Gods.
Not only Demigra, Bardock and King Vegeta are also missing as well... And iirc Bardock was trying to convince King Vegeta to betray Mechikaboola way before we saw this changing side stuff with the demons, so does that mean everyone except his two servants betrayed him?Grand Marshal 1 wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:55 amWoah, I was always confused with Fin. Apparently you are correct. He was a Majin, absorbed SS4 Gogeta, upon unleashing him he got his battle data, then got absorbed by Mira and collected more data and finally absorbed only the battle data of the Xeno Shadow Dragons, that had been gathered by Towa?MisteryOne wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:40 am Didn't Fin get his "ultimate" form just from absorbing data that Towa collected rather than absorbing someone? I don't think he ever absorbed Mechikaboola either.
But how did she even get the Dragons in the first place, when it was Demigra that allowed for Super XYi Xing Long to turn Makyouka. Meaning that Towa shouldn't be able to get a hold on them, right?
And I just got reminded, where is Demigra and his force in this final battle? Moreover any info on Chronoa? Too many questions sorry
How? Anyone at/below Super Saiyan 3 is useless here (probably even Super Saiyan 4. Not counting fusions). If anything, it's Super Saiyan God what allows Trunks to be here otherwise he'd be the first to be defeated (along with Pan, poor girl...).MisteryOne wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:05 pmI mean the idea of everyone teaming up against the big evil is actually kind of epic but also kind of undermines God Trunks (even more) and V4.
Because plot armor is a thing? These characters may be defeated quickly but they still take away focus, as minimal as it is, from the villains. Also, my point about Trunks is that he was hyped too much yet didn't really amount to anything. He just faced Ultimate Fin, then Mechikaboola but didn't defeat him because he got a new shiny form, which in turn now makes Trunks need yet another shiny power up just a single mission after archieving God, undermining the form itself because he needs to use this new key thing. It isn't any different from the Buu saga and their "now this new thing is the best thing ever! Oh nevermind it failed, but now we got THIS other newer thing!" mindset. It makes the impact of a transformation/power up less important. It isn't just Vegetto and Trunks versus the three big bads, it's a damn lot of characters with different abilities that together may be able to help them one way or another (not to mention we don't really know how powerful the new forms of Salsa/Shroom are, or neither do we know how most of the other Demon Gods are beyond being below SS4). Overall it seems like we are just getting many plot points too quickly (which again is not that bad, it's typical modern DB and is epic, but still.)Grimlock wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:35 pmHow? Anyone at/below Super Saiyan 3 is useless here (probably even Super Saiyan 4. Not counting fusions). If anything, it's Super Saiyan God what allows Trunks to be here otherwise he'd be the first to be defeated (along with Pan, poor girl...).MisteryOne wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:05 pmI mean the idea of everyone teaming up against the big evil is actually kind of epic but also kind of undermines God Trunks (even more) and V4.
This is why I said they shouldn't have given god to him until mechikaboola had transformed again cause then it would exploit how powerful god ki is when used by a Saiyan (hybrid)Dark_Tzitzimine wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:53 pm I can definitely agree with SSG Trunks being very underwhelming for an anniversary reveal. Both in the game and the manga seems like he barely accomplished anything.
What do you mean? He will be present on this new Big Bang whatever Heroes 2020 mission?Xeogran wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:31 pm Lol it still feels bizarre knowing Ozotto is FINALLY getting some kind of story, 25 years after he was created.
Wut? So SSJ4 can summon a bird as a special move now? How silly
That's what i was saying a long while ago when it was clear Trunks was in for a huge powerup this year, Pan was brought for plot reasons just so the God ritual was possible, also still a child i don't think she is sticking out much longer, Goten whole thing was fusion fodder but now Trunks is way stronger on his own and even if he needed to fuse he can do so with Gohan or Vegeta which are also both way stronger which in turn would make an even stronger fusion, but hey since everybody already got everything there is to have could mean he is in for something on Big Bang mission.Rakurai wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:31 am... Let's not open up those can of worms lol (shudders at SS4 Xeno Broly's longass name).Rinsankajugin wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:17 am"Ultimate Timespace Keysword Super Saiyan God Xeno Trunks" really rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?Rakurai wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:00 am Pretty sure that the sword XTrunks is wielding is some upgraded version of the Key Sword that was used to weaken and seal the Hell Gates. The designs at the blade tip and the hilt are similar.
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Sorry but tbh it's just hilarious to see XGoten in the midst of his comrades with their max new forms and he's still stuck in Ultimate. So out of place.
Too many card descriptions, if y'all want me to translate a specific card tho I can go ahead and do that.
Ozotto has had a role since Prison Planet and recently he managed to absorb Lagss in UVM 11-12. So we will possibly be seeing more of him.Noah wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:50 pm What do you mean? He will be present on this new Big Bang whatever Heroes 2020 mission?
Wut? So SSJ4 can summon a bird as a special move now? How silly
