The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[sunsetshimmer]

8. Goten and Trunks apparently had been slacking for years by that time. They’re base forms are probably no where near what they used to be. I’d say they are probably Ssj Goku level from namek arc or maybe android. Either way, Goku wins with mid difficulty.

They killed Pui Pui and Yakon with single ki blasts and destroyed #19 with combined ki blasts. (all of it in base forms)
They are far stronger than Cell saga SSJ Goku.

[Berserker1921]

You don’t think Goku from the cell games, couldn’t do that either? Beating those three, Isnt exactly a hard thing to do. Which means they are around android saga levels. I am not wrong. Pui pui, yokon, and 19 are barely Final form Frieza level
characters. I am not saying Goku can beat the kids while they are super saiyans. But in base, yeah. The kids were probably much stronger before the events of GT. Maybe trunks got a little stronger by the end of the series, but Goten is a joke for most of it.

[Koitsukai]

Pui Pui was dealt by base Vegeta without even breaking a sweat.
Yakon was dealt by just a SS2 transformation, and he couldn't even keep up with base Goku in the dark.
Android 19 was blown up but the weakest SS Vegeta ever.

Goten and Trunks were chosen to go to space with Goku because they were slacking off, and by the S-17 arc they are still slacking off, Goten was on a date and Trunks was coming from work when 17 attacked his car. If not by power, SS Goku takes them by skill alone.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

New Hypothetical Question
How strong would a hypothetical SSJ4 Vegetto from GT be?

[Berserker1921]

New Hypothetical Question
How strong would a hypothetical SSJ4 Vegetto from GT be?

Probably as strong as Gogeta, but lasts longer. And honestly, I have ssj4 Gogeta in between early ssjgod to Ssjblue level.

[GatoF]

New Fights

1. Aniraza vs Ssj Broly?

2. Base Toppo vs Ssj Rose Black?

3. Ssj2 Goku and Majin Vegeta vs Base Black (First encounter with trunks)?

4. SsjBE Vegeta, SsjB kkx20 Goku, Hit, and 17 vs Ssj Broly?

5. GoD Toppo vs Ssj Gogeta?

6. Jiren Fp vs current Goku and Vegeta (Moro)?

1. Broly

2. They should be equals at first but I think eventually Black surpasses Toppo

3. Black

4. The team can work together with Hit using time cage and the
others attacking with all

5. Gogeta

6. I'm not reading the manga but I think they need MUI Goku

[GatoF]

1. Ssj1 Kid Trunks and Ssj1 Goten (Buu) vs 2 Cell Jrs.
2. Ssj1 Gohan (25th Budokai) vs Piccolo (25th Budokai)
3. Pikkon vs Lssj Broly (Z Movie)
4. Nappa vs Paragus (super)

[DiscountDabi]

Saganbo, Yunba, Seven-Three, and Shimoreka vs The Ginyu Force. All Normal power with no boosts from Moro.

[Tai Lung]

Saganbo, Yunba, Seven-Three, and Shimoreka vs The Ginyu Force. All Normal power with no boosts from Moro.

mortality level >>>>>>

Almost all criminals are garbage in comparison really the only problem is the "hit copy" without preparation in the battle .. I do not know, the gurdo tecniques are not so useful and those of Ginyu need a "soul" to function

by logic in physical power it must be inferior but the neglect of piccolo should indicate otherwise

[ZombieVito]

SSR Goku Black [Last power up, no Scythe and no Zenkai] vs SSI Future Trunks [Last power up, no Genki Sword and no rage power ups].
Kid Vegeta [Broly arc, no Oozaru] vs Son Goku [Saiyan arc, post Kaio training, no Kaioken or Genkidama].
Guldo [No time stop] vs Nappa [Saiyan arc, no Oozaru].
Final Form Freeza [RoF arc] vs Super Boo [No Magic, regeneration or absorptions].
Android 18 [ToP arc] vs Bergamo [No ability].
Future Zamasu [No immortality] vs SS2 Caulifla.

[Tai Lung]

SSR Goku Black [Last power up, no Scythe and no Zenkai] vs SSI Future Trunks [Last power up, no Genki Sword and no rage power ups].
Kid Vegeta [Broly arc, no Oozaru] vs Son Goku [Saiyan arc, post Kaio training, no Kaioken or Genkidama].
Guldo [No time stop] vs Nappa [Saiyan arc, no Oozaru].
Final Form Freeza [RoF arc] vs Super Boo [No Magic, regeneration or absorptions].
Android 18 [ToP arc] vs Bergamo [No ability].
Future Zamasu [No immortality] vs SS2 Caulifla.

Black win, more tecniques
Goku win
guldo win psiquic powers
frieza final form =< SSJ God ... yeah frieza win
18 win
Goku ssj2 TOP>=Caulifla ssj2 TOP >>Goku ssj2 buu arc> Teen Gohan SSJ2>= Cabba SSJ2= Zamasu>Cell SP

[Koitsukai]

New Hypothetical Question
How strong would a hypothetical SSJ4 Vegetto from GT be?

As strong as Gogeta, maybe a bit stronger due to the rival boost.
From 1996's perspective/rules, Vegito would've lasted forever so hands down my money is on Vegito. From today's perspective/rules, Vegito still has the advantage of lasting an hour while Gogeta lasted 10, or15 minutes IIRC, that is 4x-6x more.

New Fights

1. Aniraza vs Ssj Broly?

2. Base Toppo vs Ssj Rose Black?

3. Ssj2 Goku and Majin Vegeta vs Base Black (First encounter with trunks)?

4. SsjBE Vegeta, SsjB kkx20 Goku, Hit, and 17 vs Ssj Broly?

5. GoD Toppo vs Ssj Gogeta?

6. Jiren Fp vs current Goku and Vegeta (Moro)?

1- Broly
2- Base Toppo after a really tough fight.
3- Black. He casually dealt with the SS2 Trunks that made Goku go SS3.
4- They can work out a way to take Broly down.
5- Gogeta, similar to what happened vs SS Broly.
6- Until I see Goku and Vegeta's results of their new training, I'm going with Jiren.

1. Ssj1 Kid Trunks and Ssj1 Goten (Buu) vs 2 Cell Jrs.
2. Ssj1 Gohan (25th Budokai) vs Piccolo (25th Budokai)
3. Pikkon vs Lssj Broly (Z Movie)
4. Nappa vs Paragus (super)

1- The Cell Jrs were stronger than the SS from the Cell Games, the kids weren't that strong by the Buu arc. Maybe they could take one Cell Jr, but they had trouble vs 18, so maybe they can't even take only one.
2- SS Gohan without effort. He fought Dabura, Piccolo could never go against a Perfect Cell character.
3- Hard to gauge a filler character that isn't even consistent with his power. The prison guard Paikuhan would kill Broly but the Other World Tournament Paikuhan would die by Broly's hand. Also M12 Paikuhan seemed useless. His Cell feat seems out of place, so I guess Broly wins.
4- Nappa's full power should be too much for Paragus.

Saganbo, Yunba, Seven-Three, and Shimoreka vs The Ginyu Force. All Normal power with no boosts from Moro.

I have to believe Moro's boost was quite big because those weren't even part of nowadays Freeza army nor tried to command Freeza's old forces. I can only see 7-3 lasting against the Ginyu, but probably gets the body change treatment.

SSR Goku Black [Last power up, no Scythe and no Zenkai] vs SSI Future Trunks [Last power up, no Genki Sword and no rage power ups].
Kid Vegeta [Broly arc, no Oozaru] vs Son Goku [Saiyan arc, post Kaio training, no Kaioken or Genkidama].
Guldo [No time stop] vs Nappa [Saiyan arc, no Oozaru].
Final Form Freeza [RoF arc] vs Super Boo [No Magic, regeneration or absorptions].
Android 18 [ToP arc] vs Bergamo [No ability].
Future Zamasu [No immortality] vs SS2 Caulifla.

1- Assuming SSI is SS Ikari Trunks but just his final version, the one that sliced Zamasu in half, then I'm going with Black.
2- Goku after a great fight
3- Nappa makes Guldo explode like a toad
4- Freeza kills Super Buu.
5- Pass, don't really care much for those stray dogs from U9, probably 18 beats him though.
6- I don't think her SS2 can challenge Zamasu like Goku's SS2, so I'm going with the kaio prodigy.

[DiscountDabi]

Saganbo, Yunba, Seven-Three, and Shimoreka vs The Ginyu Force. All Normal power with no boosts from Moro.

I have to believe Moro's boost was quite big because those weren't even part of nowadays Freeza army nor tried to command Freeza's old forces. I can only see 7-3 lasting against the Ginyu, but probably gets the body change treatment.

I’m not so sure if Ginyu could switch bodies with Seven-Three since he’s a fully artificial life form. But other than that I’d agree.

[Kefla]

Could Goku handle Simone and Lena?

[Zamasu55]

SSR Goku Black [Last power up, no Scythe and no Zenkai] vs SSI Future Trunks [Last power up, no Genki Sword and no rage power ups].
Kid Vegeta [Broly arc, no Oozaru] vs Son Goku [Saiyan arc, post Kaio training, no Kaioken or Genkidama].
Guldo [No time stop] vs Nappa [Saiyan arc, no Oozaru].
Final Form Freeza [RoF arc] vs Super Boo [No Magic, regeneration or absorptions].
Android 18 [ToP arc] vs Bergamo [No ability].
Future Zamasu [No immortality] vs SS2 Caulifla.

- Well, his last power up was when he got the Scythe. You mean he has that power without the weapon?
- Goku due to his expierence.
- Nappa slaughters him.
- Freeza would probably win in his 2nd form, let alone his fourth.
- In the ToP, the very same Goku that was handling Bergamo couldn't lift Tupper, unlike 18 who did it with one hand.
- Zamasu is more skilled.

[Koitsukai]

Last fights of 2019

- Majuub vs Zamasu (no immortality, the one that fought Goku and got hakai'd)
- Majuub vs SS2 Caulifla
- Majuub vs Frost
- Shin vs Z Broly
- Zamasu (no immortality) vs Kid Buu
- GT Super Vegito vs Golden Ohzaru Vegeta Baby
- Z SS3 Vegito, Enraged Buuhan vs Golden Ohzaru Vegeta Baby
- Buuhan vs Spirit Control Goku (that thing we don't yet know how it works but it's making manga Vegeta much stronger now)

-Goku unlocks SSB in the saiyan arc, who can't he defeat of the remaining Z enemies?
-Frost goes to U7 during the Buu arc to help, how does he do against the many Buu forms?

[Saiyajinx25]

Last fights of 2019

- Majuub vs Zamasu (no immortality, the one that fought Goku and got hakai'd)
- Majuub vs SS2 Caulifla
- Majuub vs Frost
- Shin vs Z Broly
- Zamasu (no immortality) vs Kid Buu
- GT Super Vegito vs Golden Ohzaru Vegeta Baby
- Z SS3 Vegito, Enraged Buuhan vs Golden Ohzaru Vegeta Baby
- Buuhan vs Spirit Control Goku (that thing we don't yet know how it works but it's making manga Vegeta much stronger now)

-Goku unlocks SSB in the saiyan arc, who can't he defeat of the remaining Z enemies?
-Frost goes to U7 during the Buu arc to help, how does he do against the many Buu forms?

- Majuub vs Zamasu (no immortality, the one that fought Goku and got hakai'd)[/q]
Zamasu

- Majuub vs SS2 Caulifla[/q]

Base Caulifla is a better match

[Tai Lung]

Next Battle

Cell GT and Frieza GT VS Caulifla and Kale
King Cold and M Frieza VS A 19 and A 20
Hell fighter 17 and 17 GT VS Trio de Dangers
Hit VS Vegeta TOP
Oceanus Shernron VS Cocote
Metal Cooler VS Frost
Cabba VS Trunks GT

[Vegetes]

Say there is a universe where Buu successfully absorbs Vegito, and then continues to absorb everyone in Universe 7 except Beerus,Whis,Broly,Merus and Moro. Who is the strongest Super character this Buu can beat?

[Zamasu55]

Next Battle

Cell GT and Frieza GT VS Caulifla and Kale
King Cold and M Frieza VS A 19 and A 20
Hell fighter 17 and 17 GT VS Trio de Dangers
Hit VS Vegeta TOP
Oceanus Shernron VS Cocote
Metal Cooler VS Frost
Cabba VS Trunks GT

- They got stronger over the years, sure, but I don't think they can handle Kale's Berserker state.
- So, let's see:
Cold and Freeza know nothing about them. They don't know 19 and 20 can absorb their energy. Now, if father and son start using beams, ki attacks etc, I think the androids would get strong enough to turn the tables. If they don't, they reduce them into utter scrap.
- HF 17 solos. Bergamo would be annoying with his special ability, but he'd perish in the end.
- SsjB Vegeta and Hit are kind of even, but the latter has his newly technique that didn't fully work on Jiren but would probably be able to defeat the Prince. But if Vegeta unlocks his Evolution state then it's over.
- Pass.
- Frost stomps in base.
- Cabba.