SSj4 Gogeta

[Mad Swami]

Because Goku and Vegeta fuse into SSj4 Gogeta in their SSj4 states, does that effect Gogeta's power in some way or is to equivalent to Gogeta turning SSj4? What do you guys think?

[Hugo Boss]

It would go either way if they fused in SS4 or in base. So far, nothing deviates from how it worked in Boo Arc, when Gotenks and Vegetto showed they could transform after the fusion.

[SSJgogeto]

IMO the order of the factors does not change the product. SS4 was necessary only because Goku was a child in his base form, but if he was an adult they could fuse in base form and then turn SS4.

[Mad Swami]

IMO the order of the factors does not change the product. SS4 was necessary only because Goku was a child in his base form, but if he was an adult they could fuse in base form and then turn SS4.

That's a really good point

[Mad Swami]

It would go either way if they fused in SS4 or in base. So far, nothing deviates from how it worked in Boo Arc, when Gotenks and Vegetto showed they could transform after the fusion.

Ok thanks

[Koitsukai]

I don't remember what was said about the dance fusion when it was introduced, I know the potara are not suppose to be used as SS but in base to not shorten the life of the fusion. The dance fusion I believe just needed the characters to be somewhat of the same height and the same power level, so it might be better to make best use of the time and do it as SS4, no need to transform or power up later.

[Mad Swami]

I don't remember what was said about the dance fusion when it was introduced, I know the potara are not suppose to be used as SS but in base to not shorten the life of the fusion. The dance fusion I believe just needed the characters to be somewhat of the same height and the same power level, so it might be better to make best use of the time and do it as SS4, no need to transform or power up later.

ok that makes sense

[Mad Swami]

IMO the order of the factors does not change the product. SS4 was necessary only because Goku was a child in his base form, but if he was an adult they could fuse in base form and then turn SS4.

That's a really good point. However say the child form was out of the equation, would them fusing in base change or not at all

[ankokudaishogun]

Because Goku and Vegeta fuse into SSj4 Gogeta in their SSj4 states, does that effect Gogeta's power in some way or is to equivalent to Gogeta turning SSj4? What do you guys think?

Using Goten and Trunks as comparison, i'd say there would have been no difference, except possibly less Ki cost and less shortened fusion time.

But Goku was stuck in kid form, so it would have made the fusion impossible. Also possibly needing Bluetz Waves to transform?