The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

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Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

Post by p-hyvo » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:48 am

Mad Swami wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:05 pm
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But the SSJ multiplier is never stated to change or get weaker in fact. When characters do better and what not that is due to them getting stronger. Case in point SSJ3 Goku being stronger in 17 arc then Majuub when last arc they were flipped. Gt gaps are just huge
Gt gaps are sure huge, but they would still be ev n with ssj=X2
And again, I've brought the proofs of the reduction even if obviously no One ever stated It directly in the series. There's no reason to think that (referring ti s17 arc) majuub Is tens of times stronger than base Goten and trunks, ssj Gohan Is tens of times stronger than majuub and base Vegeta Is tens of times base Gohan. And again, rildo getting a x50 or so boost Just by absorbing sigma force is'nt logical in the slightest. That should already serve as a proof by itself
I think your just underestimating the growth of characters and Rildo's fusion with Sigma force. Also does that mean SSJ2 is X4 and SSJ3 is X16?
Exactly, the gaps between the forms remains the same but scales from the X2, so its 2>4>16>1600 with ssj4
I feel like if i Say here where do i get numerically with dbgt/dbs Power levels, someone will get a stroke.
Better to not talk about dragon ball heroes ones, i swear
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Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

Post by Mad Swami » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:16 am

p-hyvo wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:48 am
Mad Swami wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:05 pm
p-hyvo wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:55 pm


Gt gaps are sure huge, but they would still be ev n with ssj=X2
And again, I've brought the proofs of the reduction even if obviously no One ever stated It directly in the series. There's no reason to think that (referring ti s17 arc) majuub Is tens of times stronger than base Goten and trunks, ssj Gohan Is tens of times stronger than majuub and base Vegeta Is tens of times base Gohan. And again, rildo getting a x50 or so boost Just by absorbing sigma force is'nt logical in the slightest. That should already serve as a proof by itself
I think your just underestimating the growth of characters and Rildo's fusion with Sigma force. Also does that mean SSJ2 is X4 and SSJ3 is X16?
Exactly, the gaps between the forms remains the same but scales from the X2, so its 2>4>16>1600 with ssj4
Huh, so in this version is Golden Oozaru still x500? or is it like x17 or something? Also I don't know how I feel about this scale because Goku cold use KaioKenX20 which is objectively X20 meaning Goku with KK would be stronger than SSJ3 Goku according to this theory

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Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

Post by Hulk10 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:56 pm

I am starting to question the point of this sort of question.
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Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

Post by Mad Swami » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:36 pm

Hulk10 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:56 pm
I am starting to question the point of this sort of question.
Which question? Like mine on what people think of the multiplier? if so why?

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Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

Post by Hulk10 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:44 pm

Mad Swami wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:36 pm
Hulk10 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:56 pm
I am starting to question the point of this sort of question.
Which question? Like mine on what people think of the multiplier? if so why?
The question on what the multiplier for SSJ4 is.
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Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

Post by Mad Swami » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:58 pm

Hulk10 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:44 pm
Mad Swami wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:36 pm
Hulk10 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:56 pm
I am starting to question the point of this sort of question.
Which question? Like mine on what people think of the multiplier? if so why?
The question on what the multiplier for SSJ4 is.
Fair enough.Honestly it's just I am working on a gt story and I wanted to see what ideas people had about multipliers for the form to incorporate into my story. Thanks for checking it out though much appreciate it

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Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

Post by Mad Swami » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:00 pm

x4000 I am not a fan of.
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Update: Over considering it more I think it isn't terrible and it's also a decent one. Not my favorite probably but kinda neat in the sense Golden Oozaru is 10X the original form while SSJ4 is 10x The latest form (SSJ3) So I shouldn't have been so harsh to it

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Re: The Super Saiyan 4 multiplier

Post by p-hyvo » Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:20 am

Mad Swami wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:16 am
p-hyvo wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:48 am
Mad Swami wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:05 pm


I think your just underestimating the growth of characters and Rildo's fusion with Sigma force. Also does that mean SSJ2 is X4 and SSJ3 is X16?
Exactly, the gaps between the forms remains the same but scales from the X2, so its 2>4>16>1600 with ssj4
Huh, so in this version is Golden Oozaru still x500? or is it like x17 or something? Also I don't know how I feel about this scale because Goku cold use KaioKenX20 which is objectively X20 meaning Goku with KK would be stronger than SSJ3 Goku according to this theory
Well, let's put that Easy :
Logically, Golden oozaru neees ti be a ssj3 oozaru because It worried super baby 2.
The thing Is that oozaru multiplier does'nt change like the ssj One because of It did that thing wouldnt work.(assuming you don't want to scale in a not Linear way, thing you can do but it's really hard and i don't think you would do. In case i can tell you about that but it's pretty convoluted)
So we have ssj =X2, ssj3 Is x16 and Golden oozaru Is x160
Ssj4 being able to compete with oozaru baby makes It X10 of Golden oozaru or x1600 base. The x500 thing wouldnt make sense with z multipliers , and would male even less sense with gt's ones
As Easy as that

If you wanna know something more about the non Linear way to scale multipliers for gt, Just pm me and i'll be there in case
I feel like if i Say here where do i get numerically with dbgt/dbs Power levels, someone will get a stroke.
Better to not talk about dragon ball heroes ones, i swear
Lol

Also i don't wanna be rude, even if i know i can seem It sometimes. I'm Just too harsh in some occasions, that's It. I can't control that. Is not that i want to be and asshole or mean to you, i Simply don't know how to Say what i think i other ways .Just clarifying

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