Dragon Ball gt characters stronger than super characters feats wise

[Perfect Garret]

In gt Goku can handle temperatures hotter than the sun, in super he can't even handle Earth's core, ssj2 can put up a fight against beerus, ssj2 future trunks can compete with Goku black, and zamasu who are stronger than super Saiyan God blue which leads me to believe God level isn't that strong, baby took everyone's body on earth which like having the power of a spirit bomb as a power boost + people gave him power on top of that, golden oozaru beat baby Vegeta easily, 2 ssj4's got trashed by Omega shenron, shadow dragons can destroy earth with presence alone. Rildo unbeatable on his planet unless you blow up his planet. Considering characters like master roshi can compete in tournament if power, it further leads me to believe super characters are weak.

[SSJgogeto]

But they are not.

[Perfect Garret]

But they are not.

Not counting character dialogue what is the most impressive feats you can remember of super that stomp on gt? The most impressive I've seen is tournament of power Goku, and Vegeta stomping all the other universes easily, we don't know how impressive that is because, super has very little feats to go by. People just think super is stronger because, super is the newer hyped up franchise.

[SSJgogeto]

The same with GT, we don't have much feats in there, especially considering that base Goku > Ultimate Gohan. And some of the feats are based in character dialogue, like the "hotter than sun" thing (I'm sure it's 'as hot as the sun').

About your question, it's hard to remember feats without some dialogue. We have base Vegeta and Absolute Zero and base Goku with the black hole, but there are phrases that evidence the feat.

[Perfect Garret]

The same with GT, we don't have much feats in there, especially considering that base Goku > Ultimate Gohan. And some of the feats are based in character dialogue, like the "hotter than sun" thing (I'm sure it's 'as hot as the sun').

About your question, it's hard to remember feats without some dialogue. We have base Vegeta and Absolute Zero and base Goku with the black hole, but there are phrases that evidence the feat.

Well what I meant by dialogue is they mention things like beerus being stronger than vegito, the only feats we have of this is him 1 shotting ssj3, I just feel super has less action feats compared to gt to support the dialogue we kind of have to believe there word in super, and the fact that weak fighters can compete with ssj god further leads me to believe there not as strong as Gt.

[SSJgogeto]

SS God? You're talking about Blue, right?

Anyway, in Super we have the famous "holding back" to explain some cases, like Goku's fight with Krillin. Remember when GT Goku fought with Mugley in the tournament? It's more or less the same thing.

[Tai Lung]

In gt Goku can handle temperatures hotter than the sun, in super he can't even handle Earth's core, ssj2 can put up a fight against beerus, ssj2 future trunks can compete with Goku black, and zamasu who are stronger than super Saiyan God blue which leads me to believe God level isn't that strong, baby took everyone's body on earth which like having the power of a spirit bomb as a power boost + people gave him power on top of that, golden oozaru beat baby Vegeta easily, 2 ssj4's got trashed by Omega shenron, shadow dragons can destroy earth with presence alone. Rildo unbeatable on his planet unless you blow up his planet. Considering characters like master roshi can compete in tournament if power, it further leads me to believe super characters are weak.

Mr satan survives an omega kick


he can only load a building in SSJ4 and with all his strength a piece of land


Goku SSJ4 was frozen .... but vegeta SSJ in super supports absolute zero

it further leads me to believe GT characters are weak.


not seriously .... your troll attempt is bad .....

[theherodjl]

Are we just going to forget about SSJG Goku & Beerus causing universe-shaking shockwaves from colliding punches? Or a beam struggle that was fixing to destroy the universe had Beerus not cancelled it out? No one in GT even remotely caused damage to the same degree, the closest was Kid Goku's kamehameha blowing open a hole in Sugoro's already-crumbling dimension.
DBS characters hold a massive advantage over GT characters in power & feats.

[Perfect Garret]

SS God? You're talking about Blue, right?

Anyway, in Super we have the famous "holding back" to explain some cases, like Goku's fight with Krillin. Remember when GT Goku fought with Mugley in the tournament? It's more or less the same thing.

There was no explanation for that just an assumption.

[Perfect Garret]

In gt Goku can handle temperatures hotter than the sun, in super he can't even handle Earth's core, ssj2 can put up a fight against beerus, ssj2 future trunks can compete with Goku black, and zamasu who are stronger than super Saiyan God blue which leads me to believe God level isn't that strong, baby took everyone's body on earth which like having the power of a spirit bomb as a power boost + people gave him power on top of that, golden oozaru beat baby Vegeta easily, 2 ssj4's got trashed by Omega shenron, shadow dragons can destroy earth with presence alone. Rildo unbeatable on his planet unless you blow up his planet. Considering characters like master roshi can compete in tournament if power, it further leads me to believe super characters are weak.

Mr satan survives an omega kick


he can only load a building in SSJ4 and with all his strength a piece of land


Goku SSJ4 was frozen .... but vegeta SSJ in super supports absolute zero

it further leads me to believe GT characters are weak.


not seriously .... your troll attempt is bad .....

Having a different opinion does not make someone a troll no flaming please keep your fan boy vibes under control, dragon Ball super power scaling is ridiculous it makes 0 sense, master roshi being able to beat Tien made no sense at least in Gt there is evidence to support there power in super it's just lets make weak characters relevent with no explanation. Super Goku got beat by a laser, and arale a joke character stomped Goku and Vegeta.

[Perfect Garret]

Are we just going to forget about SSJG Goku & Beerus causing universe-shaking shockwaves from colliding punches? Or a beam struggle that was fixing to destroy the universe had Beerus not cancelled it out? No one in GT even remotely caused damage to the same degree, the closest was Kid Goku's kamehameha blowing open a hole in Sugoro's already-crumbling dimension.
DBS characters hold a massive advantage over GT characters in power & feats.

Kid Goku in Gt could do the same thing charging up, shadow dragons simple existing kills planet Earth, rildo is invincible if you don't destroy the planet he is on, all baby has to do to beat someone is cut them then game over he gets your body unless he is too weak at the time. One of the shadow dragons only weakness is water it stomps ssj4 easily unless water is involved. Lord luud pretty much invincible if you don't know how to beat him.

[SSJgogeto]

There was no explanation for that just an assumption.

An assumption that explains everything.

Kid Goku in Gt could do the same thing charging up

Wait, what? That's not true.

[Tai Lung]

In gt Goku can handle temperatures hotter than the sun, in super he can't even handle Earth's core, ssj2 can put up a fight against beerus, ssj2 future trunks can compete with Goku black, and zamasu who are stronger than super Saiyan God blue which leads me to believe God level isn't that strong, baby took everyone's body on earth which like having the power of a spirit bomb as a power boost + people gave him power on top of that, golden oozaru beat baby Vegeta easily, 2 ssj4's got trashed by Omega shenron, shadow dragons can destroy earth with presence alone. Rildo unbeatable on his planet unless you blow up his planet. Considering characters like master roshi can compete in tournament if power, it further leads me to believe super characters are weak.

Mr satan survives an omega kick


he can only load a building in SSJ4 and with all his strength a piece of land


Goku SSJ4 was frozen .... but vegeta SSJ in super supports absolute zero

it further leads me to believe GT characters are weak.


not seriously .... your troll attempt is bad .....

Having a different opinion does not make someone a troll no flaming please keep your fan boy vibes under control, dragon Ball super power scaling is ridiculous it makes 0 sense, master roshi being able to beat Tien made no sense at least in Gt there is evidence to support there power in super it's just lets make weak characters relevent with no explanation. Super Goku got beat by a laser, and arale a joke character stomped Goku and Vegeta.

Calling someone fanboy just proves that you are indeed a troll ...
and no troll is not an offense .... fanboy yes

Pan fighting with rildo
a giant damages bread in the tournament
Videl kicks pan
a human hits goten
trunks base knocks down baby ozaru

Goku base defeats super 17
Goku base "dying" endures the attacks of omega shenron
a seagull gets pecked at oceanus shenron etc

the arguments you use are as bad as these

gt is equally inconsistent or more

[Perfect Garret]

Mr satan survives an omega kick


he can only load a building in SSJ4 and with all his strength a piece of land


Goku SSJ4 was frozen .... but vegeta SSJ in super supports absolute zero

it further leads me to believe GT characters are weak.


not seriously .... your troll attempt is bad .....

Having a different opinion does not make someone a troll no flaming please keep your fan boy vibes under control, dragon Ball super power scaling is ridiculous it makes 0 sense, master roshi being able to beat Tien made no sense at least in Gt there is evidence to support there power in super it's just lets make weak characters relevent with no explanation. Super Goku got beat by a laser, and arale a joke character stomped Goku and Vegeta.

Calling someone fanboy just proves that you are indeed a troll ...
and no troll is not an offense .... fanboy yes

Pan fighting with rildo
a giant damages bread in the tournament
Videl kicks pan
a human hits goten
trunks base knocks down baby ozaru

Goku base defeats super 17
Goku base "dying" endures the attacks of omega shenron
a seagull gets pecked at oceanus shenron etc

the arguments you use are as bad as these

gt is equally inconsistent or more

Calling someone a troll is a big insult that's pretty much calling someone toxic fan boy is a compliment, and insulting someone randomly for having a different db opinion is what a fan boy who is too attached to the series would do. Most of those points aren't even close to super level of ridiculousness, I mean master roshi power level is 150 he can beat people in tournament of power wtf? Golden frieza becomes as strong as super Saiyan God in 4 months, 4 hours Gohan becomes strong enough for tournament power, merged zamasu becoming a planet no explanation for that.

[Tai Lung]

Having a different opinion does not make someone a troll no flaming please keep your fan boy vibes under control, dragon Ball super power scaling is ridiculous it makes 0 sense, master roshi being able to beat Tien made no sense at least in Gt there is evidence to support there power in super it's just lets make weak characters relevent with no explanation. Super Goku got beat by a laser, and arale a joke character stomped Goku and Vegeta.

Calling someone fanboy just proves that you are indeed a troll ...
and no troll is not an offense .... fanboy yes

Pan fighting with rildo
a giant damages bread in the tournament
Videl kicks pan
a human hits goten
trunks base knocks down baby ozaru

Goku base defeats super 17
Goku base "dying" endures the attacks of omega shenron
a seagull gets pecked at oceanus shenron etc

the arguments you use are as bad as these

gt is equally inconsistent or more

Calling someone a troll is a big insult that's pretty much calling someone toxic fan boy is a compliment, and insulting someone randomly for having a different db opinion is what a fan boy who is too attached to the series would do. Most of those points aren't even close to super level of ridiculousness, I mean master roshi power level is 150 he can beat people in tournament of power wtf? Golden frieza becomes as strong as super Saiyan God in 4 months, 4 hours Gohan becomes strong enough for tournament power, merged zamasu becoming a planet no explanation for that.

"a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord
by posting inflammatory and digressive, "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

it's not offense almost everyone has some of that ...You do not know what it is?

How much power does Videl have? Or the human who hits Goten? or the seagull?

the last two arguments are elements ... that has always existed in fiction

everyone trains to be stronger in less time gohan, goten and trunks
buu opens dimensional portals screaming without explanation

Again your topic makes no sense

[theherodjl]

Kid Goku in Gt could do the same thing charging up, shadow dragons simple existing kills planet Earth, rildo is invincible if you don't destroy the planet he is on, all baby has to do to beat someone is cut them then game over he gets your body unless he is too weak at the time. One of the shadow dragons only weakness is water it stomps ssj4 easily unless water is involved. Lord luud pretty much invincible if you don't know how to beat him.

...No he can't. GT Goku charging up to his strongest form of Full Power SSJ4 just created a big light show with no repurcussions to even the amusement park he was in. How exactly you got "GT Goku charging up = DBS Goku & Beerus' universe-shattering fight" is a mystery to me.
The Shadow Dragons existed on Earth for several days without killing it so I'm not sure how reliable that claim is.
Rilldo taking control of a planet doesn't even come anywhere close to Zamasu nearly taking control of a motherfuckin' multiverse.
Baby's ability to take control of a fighter's body isn't really indicative of him being powerful...just that he has an useful ability. Ginyu can do that too and he's long since been a lesser threat to the Z Senshi.
A Shadow Dragon that is weak to a rainstorm is probably going to be slaughtered by umiverse-destroying attacks. Same with Luud.

You're not making a great case for GT here.

[Perfect Garret]

Calling someone fanboy just proves that you are indeed a troll ...
and no troll is not an offense .... fanboy yes

Pan fighting with rildo
a giant damages bread in the tournament
Videl kicks pan
a human hits goten
trunks base knocks down baby ozaru

Goku base defeats super 17
Goku base "dying" endures the attacks of omega shenron
a seagull gets pecked at oceanus shenron etc

the arguments you use are as bad as these

gt is equally inconsistent or more

Calling someone a troll is a big insult that's pretty much calling someone toxic fan boy is a compliment, and insulting someone randomly for having a different db opinion is what a fan boy who is too attached to the series would do. Most of those points aren't even close to super level of ridiculousness, I mean master roshi power level is 150 he can beat people in tournament of power wtf? Golden frieza becomes as strong as super Saiyan God in 4 months, 4 hours Gohan becomes strong enough for tournament power, merged zamasu becoming a planet no explanation for that.

"a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord
by posting inflammatory and digressive, "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

it's not offense almost everyone has some of that ...You do not know what it is?

How much power does Videl have? Or the human who hits Goten? or the seagull?

the last two arguments are elements ... that has always existed in fiction

everyone trains to be stronger in less time gohan, goten and trunks
buu opens dimensional portals screaming without explanation

Again your topic makes no sense

There are little to no training sessions of super characters training they just happen to be strong. It makes perfect sense, uub trained with Goku to become strong. Càulifla being able to fight super Saiyan God Goku made no sense, super is just a lazy cash grab that doesn't explain it's plot that well for power ups.

[SupremeKai25]

merged zamasu becoming a planet no explanation for that.

Not really, it was explained that it was his immortality allowing him to survive after his body was destroyed and latch onto the fabric of the cosmos.

[Perfect Garret]

Kid Goku in Gt could do the same thing charging up, shadow dragons simple existing kills planet Earth, rildo is invincible if you don't destroy the planet he is on, all baby has to do to beat someone is cut them then game over he gets your body unless he is too weak at the time. One of the shadow dragons only weakness is water it stomps ssj4 easily unless water is involved. Lord luud pretty much invincible if you don't know how to beat him.

...No he can't. GT Goku charging up to his strongest form of Full Power SSJ4 just created a big light show with no repurcussions to even the amusement park he was in. How exactly you got "GT Goku charging up = DBS Goku & Beerus' universe-shattering fight" is a mystery to me.
The Shadow Dragons existed on Earth for several days without killing it so I'm not sure how reliable that claim is.
Rilldo taking control of a planet doesn't even come anywhere close to Zamasu nearly taking control of a motherfuckin' multiverse.
Baby's ability to take control of a fighter's body isn't really indicative of him being powerful...just that he has an useful ability. Ginyu can do that too and he's long since been a lesser threat to the Z Senshi.
A Shadow Dragon that is weak to a rainstorm is probably going to be slaughtered by umiverse-destroying attacks. Same with Luud.

You're not making a great case for GT here.

Goku did it while in hell if I remember right, I'll have to rewatch to find it again. Baby gets stronger for every person he goes into Ginyu doesn't so controlling the Earth is equal to absorbing the power of a spirit bomb, he used everyone's power on top of this to make him even stronger. Considering golden oozaru stomped baby that means ssj4 power is insane, and Omega shenron stomping 2 ssj4's is crazier. Not necessarily, we don't know how the shadow dragon's body functions, considering he did fine against ssj4 I'm sure he would be fine.

[Perfect Garret]

merged zamasu becoming a planet no explanation for that.

Not really, it was explained that it was his immortality allowing him to survive after his body was destroyed and latch onto the fabric of the cosmos.

No other character with immortality could do that, wtf?