Wow, Toriyama would never have made such a mistakeFionordequester wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:56 pm Oh... Ok, so Salagir DIDN'T keep track...
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... ...Salagir (Page 1623): To be honest, I keep track of whose gohan is each, but I gave up on the Piccolos long ago
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Nah, he absolutely would. Still a li'l frustrating though, when you're theory crafting is trounced by the author's forgetfulness .
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
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He was dead before he got the chance. They couldn't find them till after they recruited the saiyans.Brikikoz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:31 pmWhy didn't Kibito teleport Babidi or Dabura?miguelnuva1 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:19 am
Kaioshin also needed help becasue Buu doesn't need oxygen and he couldn't teleport without Kibito in DBZ thus he couldn't try it on Babidi and Dabura.
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Man, her facial expressions really are amazing.
Prediction: Bra is teleporting behind him. Gohan will either do that Substitution Jutsu thing, or die horribly.
Prediction: Bra is teleporting behind him. Gohan will either do that Substitution Jutsu thing, or die horribly.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
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Time to see how much Salagir likes his anime tropes. Good setup for a 'Big Damn Heroes' moment.
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I really hope Gohan makes it out of this somehow. Which one is this anyway? 16 or 18?
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16. Also, Asura showed up to help clarify a few things on the French page:
Asura wrote:Well there is obviously something missing (panel or drawing) to better show what's happening this page, since most people have not understood it.
I thought that panel #1 would be enough to help understand Bra's position compared to the other characters (roughly between the 2 groups, but far away).
In panel #2, Bra uses the same tactic she did against Cold (she begins her attack and teleports). Panel #3 just shows where she starts to reappear.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
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Wrong. He had visual contact with Dabura and Babidi when they were on the cliffside watching Spopovichi and Namu die. He could have used the superior Kaioshin-Teleport, and killed everyone there.miguelnuva1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:06 amHe was dead before he got the chance. They couldn't find them till after they recruited the saiyans.Brikikoz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:31 pmWhy didn't Kibito teleport Babidi or Dabura?miguelnuva1 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:19 am
Kaioshin also needed help becasue Buu doesn't need oxygen and he couldn't teleport without Kibito in DBZ thus he couldn't try it on Babidi and Dabura.
So why didn't he?
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Toriyama didn't "Screw up". He established that Goku's teleportation can't be spammed to that extent, it's why he's unable to use it when Boo tries to blow up the planet.Brikikoz wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:33 pmThey're writing teleportation to its logical combat extent. Toriyama screwed up by introducing it and that's why he never actually had anyone use it in battles because it's too overpowered.
If Goku had used teleportation logically, everyone beyond Babidi would've been dead in one shot.
Toei originally had Goku starting spamming teleports, which is obviously a problem, but making Bra able to do so is a problem Multiverse created. I am aware that the Kaioshin teleport is better than Goku's, but it wasn't shown to be spammable, that's a choice Salagir made himself.
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The screw up was introducing warping in the first place. If he'd ended things with Cell Saga, with the Warp-Kamehameha being the obvious max usage of the ability, it'd be fine, and a great climactic use of powers.Saiga wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:41 pmToriyama didn't "Screw up". He established that Goku's teleportation can't be spammed to that extent, it's why he's unable to use it when Boo tries to blow up the planet.Brikikoz wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:33 pmThey're writing teleportation to its logical combat extent. Toriyama screwed up by introducing it and that's why he never actually had anyone use it in battles because it's too overpowered.
If Goku had used teleportation logically, everyone beyond Babidi would've been dead in one shot.
Toei originally had Goku starting spamming teleports, which is obviously a problem, but making Bra able to do so is a problem Multiverse created. I am aware that the Kaioshin teleport is better than Goku's, but it wasn't shown to be spammable, that's a choice Salagir made himself.
Then he continued, but by introducing new enemies who would've died to the Warp-Kamehameha, such as Dabura or Babidi, and then not using it...that's another screwup caused by the original.
Same with the Kaioshin teleport. There's no logical reason WHY they wouldn't use it as a weapon other than it would be a story breaker.
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That's not a screw-up. Goku could have defeated either of those enemies without the Warp-Kamehameha, so it's fine (especially Babidi lol).
He didn't even fight either of those characters, so not a screw-up at all. And even then, the Warp KHH is nowhere near as powerful as just being able to constantly spam it to avoid attacks and move where-ever you want.
Besides, Bra hasn't Warp KHH'd anyone. So by your logic Multiverse screwed up anyway.
He didn't even fight either of those characters, so not a screw-up at all. And even then, the Warp KHH is nowhere near as powerful as just being able to constantly spam it to avoid attacks and move where-ever you want.
Besides, Bra hasn't Warp KHH'd anyone. So by your logic Multiverse screwed up anyway.
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You mean when his Boss told he not to make a move while he was also recovering from the Shock that Dabura had joined Babidi?Brikikoz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:24 pmWrong. He had visual contact with Dabura and Babidi when they were on the cliffside watching Spopovichi and Namu die. He could have used the superior Kaioshin-Teleport, and killed everyone there.miguelnuva1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:06 amHe was dead before he got the chance. They couldn't find them till after they recruited the saiyans.
So why didn't he?
That still doesn't account for Vegito and Bra's situation.
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Apparently, Salagir likes to subvert tropes...hate to say it but it's kind of funny. Not in a 'ha ha' but in a cosmic warped sense.
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Holy crap dude...
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I always roll my eyes at scenes like this. Even if they're teleporting, you know where the attack is going to come from. Fucking move.
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Well that Gohan lost all hope. Bra probably could have walked up to him calmly and he wouldn't have moved.It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:01 pmI always roll my eyes at scenes like this. Even if they're teleporting, you know where the attack is going to come from. Fucking move.
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Even in fan continuities Gohan just stands there and lets people mess him up. Son Gohan? More like Some Disappointment!FoolsGil wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:06 pmWell that Gohan lost all hope. Bra probably could have walked up to him calmly and he wouldn't have moved.It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:01 pmI always roll my eyes at scenes like this. Even if they're teleporting, you know where the attack is going to come from. Fucking move.
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I am just...SOOOOO sick of Bra. Can this just END already?! Jesus Christ, it's agonizing.
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