Are There Any Updates On The Harmony Gold Dub Of Dragon Ball?

[Tom_Servo]

Another update.

Kei17 has given me permission to share his VOB of episode 1, which is a higher quality file than the anonymous copy I was given a week ago. I will be sharing it somewhere once the other episodes are digitized either today or tomorrow.

Do note he won’t be as active due to his dog passing away. I can’t feel anything but sympathy for the guy.

[10gigtriforce]

Has anyone tried playing the harmony gold movie or eposide(s) that we have with an audio receiver with dolby surround/prologic(ll/x)? The 1995 dub funi did with kidmark(and probably that video of movie 1 from funi that uses the HG names) all have dolby stereo. Basically a 4.0 surround sound, 3 channels in the from with 1 channel in the back, when run through dolby surround/ prologic systems. But far as I know no other releases have that, so I'm wondering if its something they carried over from HG like they did with the names for 1 video or if kidmark wanted to go ham.

[Planetnamek]

Another update.

Kei17 has given me permission to share his VOB of episode 1, which is a higher quality file than the anonymous copy I was given a week ago. I will be sharing it somewhere once the other episodes are digitized either today or tomorrow.

Do note he won’t be as active due to his dog passing away. I can’t feel anything but sympathy for the guy.

Sorry to hear that , hope he feels better, I do appreciate him sharing this though.

[Tom_Servo]

My source has digitized his tape, and confirmed with me five episodes are on it. However, he doesn’t want me to share it until it’s transferred again, because the first time around, the gain was set too high. Look forward to its release later this weekend!

[superrayman3]

Another update.

Kei17 has given me permission to share his VOB of episode 1, which is a higher quality file than the anonymous copy I was given a week ago. I will be sharing it somewhere once the other episodes are digitized either today or tomorrow.

That's good to hear, I'm really looking forward to seeing more of the HG dub, I'm honestly surprised at how much progress has been made within such a short timespan and I really like what I've seen thus far as for the kei VOB of episode 1, that may be his copy of the rip takarajima has (I say may because both he and kei have said on the forum that both parties have a copy, so unless kei found another version at a later point after he received takarajimas rip, this is likely the case).

Do note he won’t be as active due to his dog passing away. I can’t feel anything but sympathy for the guy.

That is sad news indeed, I've had to say goodbye to quite a few dogs in my life (Thankfully I haven't had to see one be put down yet but I have seen many dogs in my family be given to new owners and homes) so I can relate to that feeling and has my sympathies and condolences.

Edit:

My source has digitized his tape, and confirmed with me five episodes are on it. However, he doesn’t want me to share it until it’s transferred again, because the first time around, the gain was set too high. Look forward to its release later this weekend!

5 episodes O.O??? This may be the biggest development in the search yet, not only that but it seems at least the 5 episodes being recorded part of the history can finally be confirmed (we still don't know if any more episodes were recorded but at least we got the 5 that are now known to exist).

[Valerius Dover]

Something did just occur to me. Episode 1 definitely has the same title as all the later dubs. I wonder if Episodes 4-5 have different titles, or just the same titles with only the names being different.

[10gigtriforce]

Another update.

Kei17 has given me permission to share his VOB of episode 1, which is a higher quality file than the anonymous copy I was given a week ago. I will be sharing it somewhere once the other episodes are digitized either today or tomorrow.

Do note he won’t be as active due to his dog passing away. I can’t feel anything but sympathy for the guy.

Glad to see more hg dub but that poor pupper poor kei

[Planetnamek]

So this means all 5 episodes of the HG dub have been found? Holy shit that's awesome! Your source is doing a great service

[superrayman3]

So this means all 5 episodes of the HG dub have been found? Holy shit that's awesome! Your source is doing a great service

Indeed, not only that but we may be able to use the VHS footage to restore this dub or most of it completely.

[eledoremassis02]

Dang! That amazing! I'm glad you did all this work to uncover somthing really rare and sharing it (with permission). Thank you and your source so much!

[10gigtriforce]

So this means all 5 episodes of the HG dub have been found? Holy shit that's awesome! Your source is doing a great service

Indeed, not only that but we may be able to use the VHS footage to restore this dub or most of it completely.

already an attempt at episode 1 on archive.org. looks pretty ok. Id love to see the other 4 + the movie done the same way. so far the audio we have is pretty ok, so some better video is about all we need need.

[KBABZ]

So uh.... no luck on figuring out the font for the title card??



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For the person who knows the guy digitizing the tapes, it'd be great if we could see the full opening and credits for each episode, if at all possible!

[10gigtriforce]

Finally sitting down and watching the hg movie in one sitting. A few thoughts come to mind:

The voice acting is really good, like yeah using SAG actors paid tf off.


The 89 commercials are crazy nostalgic.

Still not quite feeling goku's voice, but then again I'm not huge on English *kid* goku VA. Funi's 95 dub goku comes closest to good.

I never can get over how surprisingly close-ish lord wuzu's actor sounds to the one funi got to play the Krane hermit in their dub.

All in all the colors are very nice

[eledoremassis02]

Given the news, I've been having a little fun. It's a WOP


Touched up and fitted to a DVD case for the BLT-Zero dub (when it gets released)

[MasenkoHA]

The voice acting is really good, like yeah using SAG actors paid tf off.

I’m almost entirely certain they weren’t using SAG actors. Most/all of them were later Saban regulars and Saban and unions went together like oil and water.

Also being SAG really has next to nothing with acting talent. The Funimation actors weren’t bad because they were non-union, they were bad because most of had either no acting experience or only done theater work and the voice directing was horrible.

Still not quite feeling goku's voice, but then again I'm not huge on English *kid* goku VA. Funi's 95 dub goku comes closest to good.

I veer back and forth between liking it because it sounds the closest to Nozawa and disliking it because it also sounds like Nozawa filtered through cheesy 80s cartoon kids like Pup Named Scooby Doo, Flintstone Kids, etc. I probably go back and forth between Goodson and Hendedson for favorite english kid Goku.

I never can get over how surprisingly close-ish lord wuzu's actor sounds to the one funi got to play the Krane hermit in their dub.

I’m too distracted by the fact that it’s Lord Zedd from Power Rangers. Also Mao Mao and General Blue are definitely the “Today on Power Rangers” voice so that was distracting and nostalgic.

Also good to know the random decision to age Oolong up to a middle aged adult in early Dragon Ball started with Harmony Gold.

[Danfun64]

It's a shame the Facebook page with the Zero y El Dragon Magico episodes went down. Then again, of the first five episodes only 2-4 were uploaded. Shame I can't remember what other episodes were uploaded. I remember the last episode of the Goku vs Jackie Chun fight was uploaded. The episodes where Goku flashes Hasky and Murasaki lands on the Nyoibo were also uploaded. I wonder if that stuff is lost again...

[KBABZ]

It's a shame the Facebook page with the Zero y El Dragon Magico episodes went down.

I have no knowledge of this dub! Care to inform me?

[Danfun64]

"Zero y El Dragon Magico" was a Spanish language take on the Harmony Gold dub done by the company Video Doblajes. It was relatively more successful. For one thing, it actually was shown outside one small area. It covered the double feature and 60 episodes before being canned, after which Producciones Salgado redubbed those 60 episodes, followed by Intertrack taking over for the remainer of DB's classic run through Z, GT, and the movies.

Zero y El Dragon Magico is divided into two parts: the material that Harmony Gold got the chance to dub before, and the material that wasn't. The former really suffers as it didn't use an M/E mix at all (apparently Zero y El Dragon Magico started in 1993, while the Harmony Gold dub was done in 1989? That's what the Dragon Ball International Guide spreadsheet says. Anyways, the completed HG material retained English episode titles and every edit HG made. Dialogue was handled by either looping audio and talking over it, or muting the audio and playing stock music over it and talking over that. The rest of the run doesn't have these limitations. Not only did ep 6-60 have proper M/E tracks, but apparently they were completely uncut. A funny thing to note is that the way the episodes tried to compensate for English audio as the base of the double features and ep 1-5 had a visual equivalent. HG DB had a slightly different version of the second OP variant. The Zero y Do Dragon Magico double feature took that intro and swapped several scenes from ones from the movies themselves, especially when English text is shown. The Zero y El Dragon Magico series OP, by contrast, was done with a clean copy of the first OP variant. They even got the ED (the second variant, predictably enough), which HG never used.

As for the names, yeah. It's a mixture of the HG names, new names (for example, Cachito instead of Bongo... instead of Krillin/Kuririn), and more faithful names (mainly for characters who never appeared in the first five episodes of course, though Lena was reverted to Bulma).

There used to be a Facebook page that had at least a dozen episodes uploaded, but it's been taken down. All of the episodes there were probably downloaded and reuploaded to other sites, however.

[KBABZ]

"Zero y El Dragon Magico" was a Spanish language take on the Harmony Gold dub done by the company Video Doblajes. It was relatively more successful. For one thing, it actually was shown outside one small area. It covered the double feature and 60 episodes before being canned, after which Producciones Salgado redubbed those 60 episodes, followed by Intertrack taking over for the remainer of DB's classic run through Z, GT, and the movies.

Zero y El Dragon Magico is divided into two parts: the material that Harmony Gold got the chance to dub before, and the material that wasn't. The former really suffers as it didn't use an M/E mix at all (apparently Zero y El Dragon Magico started in 1993, while the Harmony Gold dub was done in 1989? That's what the Dragon Ball International Guide spreadsheet says. Anyways, the completed HG material retained English episode titles and every edit HG made. Dialogue was handled by either looping audio and talking over it, or muting the audio and playing stock music over it and talking over that. The rest of the run doesn't have these limitations. Not only did ep 6-60 have proper M/E tracks, but apparently they were completely uncut. A funny thing to note is that the way the episodes tried to compensate for English audio as the base of the double features and ep 1-5 had a visual equivalent. HG DB had a slightly different version of the second OP variant. The Zero y Do Dragon Magico double feature took that intro and swapped several scenes from ones from the movies themselves, especially when English text is shown. The Zero y El Dragon Magico series OP, by contrast, was done with a clean copy of the first OP variant. They even got the ED (the second variant, predictably enough), which HG never used.

As for the names, yeah. It's a mixture of the HG names, new names (for example, Cachito instead of Bongo... instead of Krillin/Kuririn), and more faithful names (mainly for characters who never appeared in the first five episodes of course, though Lena was reverted to Bulma).

There used to be a Facebook page that had at least a dozen episodes uploaded, but it's been taken down. All of the episodes there were probably downloaded and reuploaded to other sites, however.

Wow, that's super-cool! Goes to show how broad the dubbing world of DB could be even back then.

[Danfun64]

There's also the Gota Magical dub which reused Zero y El Dragon Magico materials (despite apparently coming out after the Producciones Salgado dub), which covered the first sixty episodes (but not the double feature). I was under the impression (I don't speak Spanish or Portuguese, so I can't be sure) that it reused the Zero script, but all of the names were reverted/retranslated to/from their original Japanese counterparts, so Goku is Goku again. Other things worth noting is that ep 1-5 appeared to have an M/E track used for dubbing purposes along with the rest of the episodes. Also, the video side of things appears to be identical to Zero y El Dragon Magico. Meaning the opening and ending credits are in Spanish, and the episode titles are also shown in Spanish, sometimes still referring to Goku as Zero (the narrator gives the translated episode title... corrected with the new names. So an episode title referring to Zero will have him say Goku for example). One last thing worth noting is that Zero y El Dragon Magico reused the English theme without modification. The Gota Magica dub recorded it's own remix of Makafushigi Adventure that appears to be based on the lyrics of the Producciones Salgado/Intertrack Latino Spanish dub.

Of course, like Zero y El Dragon Magico, the Gota Magical dub would be replaced by a redub with a different cast. However it took longer for that to happened, as unlike the Latino Spanish side of things, the next dub of DB after this one would be Alamo's dub of Z, with the DB redub happening after that show finished it's run IIRC. And then you have DPN taking over from Alamo for ep 61-153... and then CN Brazil wanted Alamo to redub those episodes a few years later for consistency.