Interesting or funny pictures thread

Any general discussion regarding fan-created works of the Dragon Ball franchise, including AMVs, fan-art, fan-fiction, etc.
User avatar
It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips
Regular
Posts: 740
Joined: Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:16 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips » Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:20 pm

Kanassa wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:00 pm
It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:07 pm
Man, I dunno how to tell you this but Trunks was already a Mary Sue. A very well executed one with loads of personality and interesting characterization but still a Mary Sue.
His entire character is being a failure who constantly gets his ass kicked and is ultimately pointless in the story he was made for. He is, by far, one of the most non-sue characters in Dragon Ball and Super only continues this with his big moment literally being the reason his entire missions fails and gives the villain the win.
That's still a Mary Sue. Many Mary Sues are written to be tragic characters who watch everything they love be destroyed. Many don't even survive the climax of their stories. Heck, if you check most definitions you won't find anything about succeeding or winning. According to them a Mary Sue is just a character who is unrealistically cool, lacks meaningful flaws, and is thrust into the spotlight of the story.
My opinions suck. You should probably mute me to spare yourself having to see them.

"If someone gets Star Wars wrong? Death threats. If a kid learns that a shitty song they liked when they were 12 was a cover of a song made in 1984? Death threats. If someone makes a Sonic game that's too dark and edgy? Death threats. If someone makes a Sonic game that isn't too dark and edgy? Death threats. If someone criticizes Naruto? Lots of death threats. Sexualizes pokemon? UNIVERSAL PRAISE." - Plague of Gripes

User avatar
Cure Dragon 255
Banned
Posts: 5658
Joined: Thu May 03, 2012 5:23 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:42 pm

Lets be Galaxy Brian and say Mary Sue is a sexist nebulous concept to put down any character the acusee doesnt like.

User avatar
Shaddy
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1653
Joined: Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:38 pm
Contact:

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Shaddy » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:42 pm

Well, the sexist connotation is only a very recent thing as far as I'm aware, and I'm not sure it really applies when you use it on a masculine character. The proper term for that scenario is "gary stu". Assuming both are used correctly, the idea of a poorly-designed overwritten hero character that is good at everything and liked by everyone without any real need for change or feeling of challenge to the ordeal isn't inherently a bad thing to criticize. I don't think Trunks would actually fit the bill, someone like Sasuke Uchiha might better, but there has to be some shorthand for this mistake in storytelling.

User avatar
Cure Dragon 255
Banned
Posts: 5658
Joined: Thu May 03, 2012 5:23 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:58 pm

Look I love you Shaddy but no it isnt. Its most definitely not a recent thing.

User avatar
It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips
Regular
Posts: 740
Joined: Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:16 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips » Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:09 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:42 pm Lets be Galaxy Brian and say Mary Sue is a sexist nebulous concept to put down any character the acusee doesnt like.
But I like Trunks :(
My opinions suck. You should probably mute me to spare yourself having to see them.

"If someone gets Star Wars wrong? Death threats. If a kid learns that a shitty song they liked when they were 12 was a cover of a song made in 1984? Death threats. If someone makes a Sonic game that's too dark and edgy? Death threats. If someone makes a Sonic game that isn't too dark and edgy? Death threats. If someone criticizes Naruto? Lots of death threats. Sexualizes pokemon? UNIVERSAL PRAISE." - Plague of Gripes

User avatar
Cure Dragon 255
Banned
Posts: 5658
Joined: Thu May 03, 2012 5:23 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:17 pm

Now that is a more interesting take. Not many admit that.

User avatar
Kanassa
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 6265
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:57 am

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Kanassa » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:42 am

It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:20 pm
Kanassa wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:00 pm
It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:07 pm
Man, I dunno how to tell you this but Trunks was already a Mary Sue. A very well executed one with loads of personality and interesting characterization but still a Mary Sue.
His entire character is being a failure who constantly gets his ass kicked and is ultimately pointless in the story he was made for. He is, by far, one of the most non-sue characters in Dragon Ball and Super only continues this with his big moment literally being the reason his entire missions fails and gives the villain the win.
That's still a Mary Sue. Many Mary Sues are written to be tragic characters who watch everything they love be destroyed. Many don't even survive the climax of their stories. Heck, if you check most definitions you won't find anything about succeeding or winning. According to them a Mary Sue is just a character who is unrealistically cool, lacks meaningful flaws, and is thrust into the spotlight of the story.
Not really, sue's are written to have the setting bend to put them on a pedestal of perfection, lacking meaningful consequences for actions and their only downfall is in ways that completely deny them agency or responsibility. And even by your own definition, Trunks doesn't count, he's not unrealistically cool, is mostly used as a useless fuckup and is utterly meaningless to the story he's into the point you could remove him from the plot and very little would need to change. The most wanking he ever gets is being Vegeta's son and that's only used to have Vegeta complain about what a disappointment Trunks is for most of the arc.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back. :D
- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017

User avatar
Grimlock
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8657
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:11 pm
Location: Cybertron.

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Grimlock » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:44 pm

It's interesting to note that this is actually GT Gogeta, prior to becoming Time Patroller/stronger. Whoever did this either forgot to color Gogeta's pants as black or he's a big fan of the character. :P

Image

User avatar
Steven Bloodriver
I Live Here
Posts: 3499
Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:06 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:54 pm

Image
Image

User avatar
FoolsGil
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5038
Joined: Tue May 21, 2013 10:37 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by FoolsGil » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:39 pm

Image

By Tovio Rogers
@TovioR

User avatar
Steven Bloodriver
I Live Here
Posts: 3499
Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:06 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:21 pm

Image

User avatar
Lord Beerus
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 21430
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm
Location: A temple on a giant tree
Contact:

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:10 pm

Image

User avatar
Tai Lung
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1877
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:38 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Tai Lung » Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:46 pm

Image

ShaggyBlanco
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 108
Joined: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:05 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by ShaggyBlanco » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:56 am

Image

User avatar
Tai Lung
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1877
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:38 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Tai Lung » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:09 pm

Image

User avatar
Lord Beerus
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 21430
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm
Location: A temple on a giant tree
Contact:

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:50 am

Image

User avatar
Steven Bloodriver
I Live Here
Posts: 3499
Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:06 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:16 am

Image

User avatar
DestructoDisc
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 407
Joined: Wed May 16, 2018 1:07 pm

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by DestructoDisc » Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:35 am

Image

User avatar
SupremeKai25
I Live Here
Posts: 4814
Joined: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:40 am

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by SupremeKai25 » Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:55 am

Image
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with Toyotaro

User avatar
sunsetshimmer
I Live Here
Posts: 2207
Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:34 pm
Location: Poland/Equestria

Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread

Post by sunsetshimmer » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:12 am

Image
"I will concede that your feelings are worthy of the mightiest of Saiyans. However, there is more to my power than just this. Before you die, I will show it to you. This is the difference in power, between the primitive Saiyans and the evolved Tsufruians." ~Baby Vegeta

Post Reply