Unpopular DB opinions

[Tai Lung]

Goku vs Caulifla/Kale was better than Goku vs Kefla (even thought the latter was pretty good).
I really liked how Goku was teaching them while beating their asses and how he manages to hold his own without transforming (right away) because he's just a better fighter. This fact is actually what made me disagree with the whole thing of Caulifla being a mary sue; yeah she has power, a lot, but that doesn't mean crap if she's just a regular brawler, while Goku is an actual experienced martial artist. I also really liked their interactions, super really shines with those kind of scenes

I quite agree with that ... I also help the development of saiyan girls

[Cipher]

The Universe 6 arc in the Super manga is supremely enjoyable.

[Alruneia]

The Universe 6 arc in the Super manga is supremely enjoyable.

How so? Not that I'm necessarily disagreeing, I'm just curious about your reasoning. Also, you specify the manga version. Is that because you prefer it over the anime, or is it more based on how some people say that the Zamasu arc is the only good manga arc?

[Matches Malone]

The Universe 6 arc in the Super manga is supremely enjoyable.

How so? Not that I'm necessarily disagreeing, I'm just curious about your reasoning. Also, you specify the manga version. Is that because you prefer it over the anime, or is it more based on how some people say that the Zamasu arc is the only good manga arc?

I would've said they were equal if it weren't for Vegeta's fight with Magetta in the anime, that gives it the edge for me. The manga definitely takes the cake for Zamasu's arc due to its consistency, unlike the anime which was all over the place with it.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

The remastered dub serves no one and Funimation are shooting themselves in the foot trying to sell it as the dub seen on Toonami. The inconsistency of going from the redub of Seasons 1 and 2 to a significantly redubbed season 3, and then later seasons with gradually less redubbing as it goes on makes for an incredibly jarring experience.

If anyone wants to watch the series in English I recommend Funi Kai, the Ocean dubs and OG Funimation dub at least as all are much more consistent.

[MasenkoHA]

The remastered dub serves no one and Funimation are shooting themselves in the foot trying to sell it as the dub seen on Toonami. The inconsistency of going from the redub of Seasons 1 and 2 to a significantly redubbed season 3, and then later seasons with gradually less redubbing as it goes on makes for an incredibly jarring experience.

If anyone wants to watch the series in English I recommend Funi Kai, the Ocean dubs and OG Funimation dub at least as all are much more consistent.

The OG Funi dub is just as bad as the remastered dub if not worse. You’re either going to go from the capable Canadian cast to the incompetent Texas cast or the Texas cast at their most polished pre-Kai to a jumbled mess. It’s a whiplash in quality regardless.

I agree Funimation should own up to their original crap job instead of playing revisionism especially since the revised dub does little to fix anything. But I think it’s weird that people think it’s better. It’s not better. It’s just a mess of a product made by people who had no clue what they were doing making bad choice after bad choice versus the same product but with a half torn band-aid put on it.

[MyVisionity]

I would take the OG dub over Remastered any day. It might not technically be "better" but it feels much more authentic and natural. Plus I think that the voices flow much better. I cannot stand hearing Sabat's over the top deep and gruff Vegeta in those episodes. It pulls you right out of it.

While terrible, I think that the OG Funi Season Three work is a classic, so I hate to see it be overwritten and forgotten.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

The remastered dub serves no one and Funimation are shooting themselves in the foot trying to sell it as the dub seen on Toonami. The inconsistency of going from the redub of Seasons 1 and 2 to a significantly redubbed season 3, and then later seasons with gradually less redubbing as it goes on makes for an incredibly jarring experience.

If anyone wants to watch the series in English I recommend Funi Kai, the Ocean dubs and OG Funimation dub at least as all are much more consistent.

The OG Funi dub is just as bad as the remastered dub if not worse. You’re either going to go from the capable Canadian cast to the incompetent Texas cast or the Texas cast at their most polished pre-Kai to a jumbled mess. It’s a whiplash in quality regardless.

I agree Funimation should own up to their original crap job instead of playing revisionism especially since the revised dub does little to fix anything. But I think it’s weird that people think it’s better. It’s not better. It’s just a mess of a product made by people who had no clue what they were doing making bad choice after bad choice versus the same product but with a half torn band-aid put on it.

As bad as the old Z dub is, it's very much a product of it's time when the FUNi cast were at their most amateur and inexperienced while the hack job patchwork '07 OB version was added as basically an afterthought to have it seem less bad but still didn't make it any less inaccurate script and dialogue wise than it'd been back in 1999. The original "Season 3" run of the Freeza episodes at least went with the Ocean dubs of the previous two seasons to some degree. It's so bizarre going from the partial redubbing to the mostly untouched version from Trunks's arrival and onward, the inconsistency there just makes any improvement (what little there is) effectively meaningless in the long run.

[Hulk10]

That the Saiyan tails are an asset. That seems to be an unpopular opinion.

[MyVisionity]

I agree about the Saiyan tails being an asset. They open up a range of new storytelling possibilities.

[Hulk10]

I agree about the Saiyan tails being an asset. They open up a range of new storytelling possibilities.

Not just that but they give a power boost and allow the Saiyans to achieve SSJ4.

[It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips]

I agree about the Saiyan tails being an asset. They open up a range of new storytelling possibilities.

They also looked really good. Like the OG Saiyan armor.

Come on, TOEI. It's like Toriyama is doing all the crosshatching himself anymore. Toyotaro has a like a whole month between releases! Bring back the tails!

[MasenkoHA]

As bad as the old Z dub is, it's very much a product of it's time when the FUNi cast were at their most amateur and inexperienced

Sure it was a product of “a replacement cast that had no business replacing the prior cast badly pretending they were old cast” that stuff was garbage back in 1999. Season 3’s dub is just awful anyway you slice it.

while the hack job patchwork '07 OB version was added as basically an afterthought to have it seem less bad but still didn't make it any less inaccurate script and dialogue wise than it'd been back in 1999.

I don’t think making it good or less bad was the goal as much as trying to make the transition from the 2005 dubbed episodes to the 1999 episodes more “smooth” obviously it wasn’t very smooth but neither was the transition from the Ocean cast to the Funi cast back in 1999.

The original "Season 3" run of the Freeza episodes at least went with the Ocean dubs of the previous two seasons to some degree

It doesn’t really go with it to any degree. Obviously it’s intended to be in the same continuity but suddenly the cast have been replaced by amateurs who can’t act to save their lives, characters can suddenly bleed, the Namekians are randomly dead now instead of “hurt badly” the music score went from sounding like Mighty Morphin Power Rangers with a slight edge to sounding like someone really hated their washing machine so decided to throw 20 cell phones into it.

The remastered dub is easily the more consistent product it’s just a matter of “why didn’t you change this or that as well?”

But more consistent in this case means “well it’s obviously the same cast for all 291 episodes now and it’s uncut the whole way through”

[Dbzfan94]

This same conversation again? You guys do this like once a week.

[Hulk10]

I agree about the Saiyan tails being an asset. They open up a range of new storytelling possibilities.

They also looked really good. Like the OG Saiyan armor.

Come on, TOEI. It's like Toriyama is doing all the crosshatching himself anymore. Toyotaro has a like a whole month between releases! Bring back the tails!

I'd love that honestly.

[Tai Lung]

Chichi regressed more than Goku did. I don't think Goku is more of a caricature than he ever as, whereas Chichi has clearly been regressed to her previous characterization as a tiger mom. I can only assume it's because that was the characterization she is most well know for. However, what I found so interesting from the Cell arc onward is how she grew out of that, especially once Goku died. Now it's like she learned nothing

she's been like this since Z started

[MasenkoHA]

The tiger mom trait pretty much disappeared in the Buu arc.

[Psajdak]

In what little screentime he had in his anime appearances, both non-canon, and canon, Bardock seemed to have more introspection than Goku in general.

[It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips]

In what little screentime he had in his anime appearances, both non-canon, and canon, Bardock seemed to have more introspection than Goku in general.

That's not a high bar to clear. Goku has had all two moments of self reflection throughout the whole series. He's not really the kinda person to consider the situation he's in or his own feelings about it.

Ok, unpopular opinion time:

Garlic Junior was the only villain they could have realistically brought back for a mini arc. Post Freeza the characters can steamroll just about any physical threat. The only way to keep any level of tension was through a villain that couldn't just be Kamehameha'd to death and whose objectives by passed the heroes all together. Sure the writers could have given similar abilities to a different baddie but that also would have required set up. Garlic really was the best option available to them.

[Psajdak]

I wish Freeza used his second, and third form as well in ToP, even if against weaker opponents.

They may not be as powerful as fourth form, or Golden Freeza, but designwise, they perfectly displayed how true danger, and cruelty hidden beneath his small horned form.

In fact, I kinda dislike the fact that nowadays Freeza is by default in his 4th form.