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Desassina
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by Desassina » Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:44 pm
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I count only two timelines with many instances of the same ones. That is the same thing as knowing how they could have developed had they not been interfered with. What happens there is the following: Cell's arrival with a continuous line put a dotted one below in a sequence with Trunks's. The events occur in the large bands as described until they get cut off by the trips in time and they continue in the one below. These aren't different versions of the same characters and the main line doesn't build up to the future hence why the bands fade. It's a recursive chart with a loop. When the characters travel from the moment of interference in the main line to the future, their bands are aligned with each other. That is to say that Trunks gave Goku the medicine on the left, for example, and returned to his future on the right. That is represented by the arrows.
Edit: thanks Grimlock for the chronology suggestions.
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by Grimlock » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:36 am
It's probably better to point out that the last panel of the second roll it's wrong. It's already AGE 785 when Trunks returns to the present. There's an eight-month timeskip in his timeline.
We do know when Movie 15 and Universe 6 saga take place, it's in AGE 779. In the anime continuity, Goku Black first appears on Earth in AGE 795. They struggle for one year before Trunks decides to return to the present again.
As for when Zamasu kills Gowasu and wished to switch bodies, I actually can't remember where I saw but I do recall someone or somewhere stating Goku Black comes one year ahead of the present timeline. That would establish that he comes from AGE 780 and probably gathered all the Super Dragon Balls in that same year or in AGE 781 before going to Trunks' timeline.
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by Desassina » Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:05 am
Grimlock wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:36 am
It's probably better to point out that the last panel of the second roll it's wrong. It's already AGE 785 when Trunks returns to the present. There's an eight-month timeskip in his timeline.
Copy paste... Damn it, I knew that I got something wrong, thanks!
We do know when Movie 15 and Universe 6 saga take place, it's in AGE 779. In the anime continuity, Goku Black first appears on Earth in AGE 795. They struggle for one year before Trunks decides to return to the present again.
Thanks once more. I couldn't remember, because I didn't know when we were told, but it makes total sense. The manga had a panel about Trunks saying that he needed to return to 17 years prior right?
As for when Zamasu kills Gowasu and wished to switch bodies, I actually can't remember where I saw but I do recall someone or somewhere stating Goku Black comes one year ahead of the present timeline. That would establish that he comes from AGE 780 and probably gathered all the Super Dragon Balls in that same year or in AGE 781 before going to Trunks' timeline.
In the manga panel, he jumps sideways, when it could be a Toyotaro thing, because it doesn't really matter, but that got me thinking: how could Zamasu take Goku's body and team up with himself in his future?
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by Grimlock » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:58 pm
Desassina wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:05 amI couldn't remember, because I didn't know when we were told, but it makes total sense.
A guide or pamphlet states Movie 15 takes place in AGE 779, as well as the old version of the Dragon Ball SSSS website and Xenoverse 2. We also have Pan's birth, which is known to be in AGE 779. So her first appearance is an indication of which year it is.
Xenoverse 2 also states Universe 6 saga occurs in that same year.
Desassina wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:05 amThe manga had a panel about Trunks saying that he needed to return to 17 years prior right?
That would be correct. AGE 796 - 17 = AGE 779.
Desassina wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:05 amhow could Zamasu take Goku's body and team up with himself in his future?
It's not "in his future", after killing Goku, he went to Trunks' timeline and teamed up with the Zamasu from that timeline. That's why when Beerus kills Zamasu, a new timeline is created, because that one was meant to become Goku Black.
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by Desassina » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:32 pm
The last part is what I probably realized when correcting the scheme. Help me out: where is it stated that Trunks was attacked in Age 795? The different media are confusing me.
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by Desassina » Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:18 pm
I don't get it... I didn't disagree with his battle being over a year. Where's the age though? I feel like we're inferring half of the things and mixing them up with the ones that actually took place in the series. The movies were a thing alright, but I'm starting to think that the ages were better off as question marks until further notice, because there's no use trying to tie them with the End of Z. In any case, the purpose of this thread wasn't to argue chronology, just time travel and different versions of the same world.
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by Grimlock » Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:41 pm
Here is the AGE. And nothing is being "mixed up". In both the manga and in the anime continuities, Future Trunks saga takes place in AGE 796. The only thing that is probably different is when Goku Black first appears/attacks Earth. I specifically said "in the anime continuity" in my previous post. We don't know exactly when Goku Black first appears/attacks Earth in the manga.
If Future Trunks saga takes place in AGE 796 and Trunks struggles with Goku Black for one year, that obviously means that the latter first appears/attacks Earth (anime continuity) in AGE 795. It's a simple thing to understand.
You can edit your image yet again back to "???" and ignore official information, but that won't change anything, you know. The official dates will be there regardless of that, the "further notice" is right here. I merely brought it to you because I assumed you didn't know it. End of Z remains unchanged, it's still there and still taking place in AGE 784 as per usual.