How did Goku ever used Kaioken X10 in the Frieza arc.
I never saw it.
Is there a image of the multipler.
I'm just asking
Kaioken x10 in the Frieza arc
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Kaioken x10 in the Frieza arc
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Re: Kaioken x10 in the Frieza arc
He didn't start using the Kaio-Ken at all until after Freeza started using 50% of his full power and pummeling him. You see Goku flare up the Kaio-Ken aura at least once before Kaio tells us that he's using the x10 version.
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Re: Kaioken x10 in the Frieza arc
Was it ever said in the dub of the anime.Kaboom wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:08 pm He didn't start using the Kaio-Ken at all until after Freeza started using 50% of his full power and pummeling him. You see Goku flare up the Kaio-Ken aura at least once before Kaio tells us that he's using the x10 version.
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Re: Kaioken x10 in the Frieza arc
No, Goku wasn't. The manga makes it clear that Goku didn't start using the Kaiou-ken in any form until AFTER Freeza had went to 50% full power. It was only then that Goku was shown with the Kaiou-ken aura, as beforehand he's only shown with a normal aura when he exhibits one.
From the original translation of the manga as well, for confirmation sake.
Tenshinhan: "There’s nothing to worry about. Goku will win this match…Aren't you forgetting about the Kaio-Ken? As he is now, Goku is able to endure a maximum of up to about 10 times his power, right?"
Kaio: "Unfortunately... That Ten-Fold Kaio-Ken is what Goku is using now..."
It is literally only the Funimation dub that ever suggests or indicates Goku is using the Kaiou-ken (in any capacity) the entire time he's fighting Freeza, as all the original dialogue points to is that Goku is currently using it while Freeza is at 50%. This is supported by the Full-color manga's coloring in the pages I provided earlier, with him only being depicted with a red aura after Freeza went to 50%.
This is additionally supported by Freeza, before going to 50%, suggesting he could tell Goku still had a lot of power he was capable and willing to use, and that he hadn't truly been going all out beforehand.
Freeza: “You’re quite confident. But I’ve noticed that though you told me you’d fight seriously, you still have a considerable amount of power remaining…”
Goku: “So the jig’s up, huh?”
Freeza: “Even taking that into consideration, in my estimation… If I put out about 50%, that is to say, half of my maximum power, I'll be able to turn you into space dust..."
The 10x Kaiou-ken was the literal highest Goku was willing to use, with the 20x being too dangerous and no indication that he could or wanted to try for anything in between. So if Freeza believes this, and Goku confirms it, then that means Goku had levels of power he still was willing to use, and thus the Kaiou-ken 10x.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/6 ... n_goku_in/
This notion that he was using it the entire time comes from the Funimation dub of Z, as the original line in the manga and anime do not indicate he's using it the entire time, simply that he is currently using it, when Tenshinhan suggests that he still has it up his sleeve.Young-Jah wrote: Fri May 01, 2020 11:33 amWas it ever said in the dub of the anime.Kaboom wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:08 pm He didn't start using the Kaio-Ken at all until after Freeza started using 50% of his full power and pummeling him. You see Goku flare up the Kaio-Ken aura at least once before Kaio tells us that he's using the x10 version.
From the original translation of the manga as well, for confirmation sake.
Tenshinhan: "There’s nothing to worry about. Goku will win this match…Aren't you forgetting about the Kaio-Ken? As he is now, Goku is able to endure a maximum of up to about 10 times his power, right?"
Kaio: "Unfortunately... That Ten-Fold Kaio-Ken is what Goku is using now..."
It is literally only the Funimation dub that ever suggests or indicates Goku is using the Kaiou-ken (in any capacity) the entire time he's fighting Freeza, as all the original dialogue points to is that Goku is currently using it while Freeza is at 50%. This is supported by the Full-color manga's coloring in the pages I provided earlier, with him only being depicted with a red aura after Freeza went to 50%.
This is additionally supported by Freeza, before going to 50%, suggesting he could tell Goku still had a lot of power he was capable and willing to use, and that he hadn't truly been going all out beforehand.
Freeza: “You’re quite confident. But I’ve noticed that though you told me you’d fight seriously, you still have a considerable amount of power remaining…”
Goku: “So the jig’s up, huh?”
Freeza: “Even taking that into consideration, in my estimation… If I put out about 50%, that is to say, half of my maximum power, I'll be able to turn you into space dust..."
The 10x Kaiou-ken was the literal highest Goku was willing to use, with the 20x being too dangerous and no indication that he could or wanted to try for anything in between. So if Freeza believes this, and Goku confirms it, then that means Goku had levels of power he still was willing to use, and thus the Kaiou-ken 10x.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/6 ... n_goku_in/