Dragonball(Z) Movies Question

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:09 pm

This is a question concerning the original fullscreen masters for the Dragonball(Z) films. Being as Funimation somehow got fullscreen masters for their movie release, what is going to happen to them now that Funimation kinda messed them up with their "remastering". If they are the original masters, does that mean they are damaged forever?

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:21 am

FUNimation doesn't have Toei's original masters. Nobody but Toei will ever have Toei's original masters. FUNimation claiming to have "Original Japanese Film Masters" is just them saying they have masters from Japan but trying to make it seem like they have some legendary original film.

Also, I sincerely doubt FUNimation has damaged the masters they do have considering all the remastering was done via lazy digital transfers and cleanups. In other words, they ran the film through a machine they rented. The film came out like normal, but the machine created the digital remastered HD copy, which they then crammed on a regular DVD and threw it into stores. But not before trying to make their product sound as great and definite as possible with crazy claims and obvious statements like "Original Japanese Film Masterssss!!"

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:55 am

Matt is on the money. What FUNimation has is a film master. It's not the original. The original masters, the film negatives, are in Toei's vault and I highly doubt that Toei would just give them to FUNi. Or anyone for that matter.

Anyway, FUNi telecined their film in 1080p and then downscaled it to 480p. Think of it as scanning a photo at a really high resolution and then resizing it to something smaller.

jamie_sweeney · Post by **jamie_sweeney** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:16 am

They didn't remaster their fullscreen versions of the movies from the beginning though, did they? Or are these the broly movies that were released on blu-ray that are being discussed, which I guess had the same treatment as the box-sets. I'm never sure because I can't get these things here in the UK without Amazon, and I don't get around to that very often.

Broly on blu-ray.... depending on how you say it thats almost a tongue twister.

shotkeeper · Post by **shotkeeper** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:29 am

The FILM is not widescreen nor fullscreen. It's just the film. Now with that film you can make widescreen or you can make fullscreen. Let me remind you that the series were supposed to be in Fullscreen, but the movie were supposed to be widescreen.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:38 am

Blory on Bru-lay lol

Well some people would see them "remastering" the movies as staying closer to the original than before, since the movies were meant to be in wide-screen. Though I like my full-screen. I don't know if I'd get the movies in wide-screen (though I am getting the whole series as it comes out), we'll just have to see. Truth be told, as far as the movies go, there's no reason for me to get them wide-screen.

Anyway, your question. The movies were put on film, and the film wasn't some crazy thin wide-screen film, it was regular standard sized. The way it was meant to be wide-screen was that when they drew everything, they were drawing to calculatingly fit within the "black lines" at the top and bottom. They still drew on the entire film, and colored it in, but everything would fit into the wide-screen, so you wouldn't get those chopped off heads and legs.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:05 pm

You do know that they didn't draw on the film itself, right?

jamie_sweeney · Post by **jamie_sweeney** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:49 am

Yeah, I knew the movies were meant to be in widescreen, when I mentioned the same treatment as the box sets I meant that process they used thats supposed to remove grain on the film and format it in HD. I'd order the set but I don't have a blu-ray player yet.