Dragon Ball Rewatch, Week 19 - DB episodes 81-85

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Re: Dragon Ball Rewatch, Week 19 - DB episodes 81-85

Post by ABED » Sat May 16, 2020 7:06 pm

MyVisionity wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 4:03 pm
ABED wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 11:35 am I wonder why the anime has only this tournament take place over the course of a few days. I like it and it gives a greater sense of "epic-ness" for lack of a better term.
This was around the time they began to ramp up the filler so that's probably why things are padded out. They probably thought they didn't have to for the next tournament or just decided it wouldn't work.

I prefer it spread out over days too, even though some of the filler parts don't work and mess with the characters too much.
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I'm interested in the 2nd half of your response. What didn't work?
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Re: Dragon Ball Rewatch, Week 19 - DB episodes 81-85

Post by MyVisionity » Sat May 16, 2020 8:42 pm

ABED wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 7:06 pm
MyVisionity wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 4:03 pm
ABED wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 11:35 am I wonder why the anime has only this tournament take place over the course of a few days. I like it and it gives a greater sense of "epic-ness" for lack of a better term.
This was around the time they began to ramp up the filler so that's probably why things are padded out. They probably thought they didn't have to for the next tournament or just decided it wouldn't work.

I prefer it spread out over days too, even though some of the filler parts don't work and mess with the characters too much.
Possibly

I'm interested in the 2nd half of your response. What didn't work?
Mostly the Crane school stuff like when they break for lunch during the preliminaries and Tenshinhan complains about the food and almost fights Yamcha. Or the restaurant scenes where the Crane and Turtle groups go back and forth. I think those kinds of scenes cheapen Tenshinhan's character a little bit and also cheapen the drama too much. Also the scene where Crane Hermit tries to kill Goku in the middle of the night. As much as I like that scene it seems silly that Crane would personally try and take him out. Almost like it's beneath him.

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Re: Dragon Ball Rewatch, Week 19 - DB episodes 81-85

Post by ABED » Sat May 16, 2020 9:40 pm

I like the scene where he tries to kill Goku. Not only does it make sense for him to want revenge, it shows us more about Tenshinhan. Even if he wanted Goku dead, he wouldn't want him taken out before he had the chance to defeat him in the finals.

I don't think their dinner scene cheapens the drama. There's a pettiness to it, but that can coexist with more earnest conflict.
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Re: Dragon Ball Rewatch, Week 19 - DB episodes 81-85

Post by KBABZ » Sun May 17, 2020 12:06 pm

I feel the 22nd TB filler tends to be repetitive and one-one. Yeah, Crane is a petty, shallow, angsty, grudge-holding, shallow guy, but how many times must he and Roshi/Bulma argue with him to show this to us?

As for the idea that they'd break for lunch or return to their hotels, I do like the base idea. It heavily implies a set schedule and that the TB is such a large event that it simply cannot be done in a single day like the first time around. It's kinda like the Olympics in that way.

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Re: Dragon Ball Rewatch, Week 19 - DB episodes 81-85

Post by ABED » Sun May 17, 2020 12:09 pm

Fair enough, but come on, that SBD fart was hilarious.
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Re: Dragon Ball Rewatch, Week 19 - DB episodes 81-85

Post by MasenkoHA » Wed May 20, 2020 1:26 am

MyVisionity wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 8:42 pm
Mostly the Crane school stuff like when they break for lunch during the preliminaries and Tenshinhan complains about the food and almost fights Yamcha. Or the restaurant scenes where the Crane and Turtle groups go back and forth. I think those kinds of scenes cheapen Tenshinhan's character a little bit and also cheapen the drama too much.
Demonstrating that Tenshinhan is a smug arrogant asshole doesn’t cheapen his character that’s kind of the point. He’s not some grand elegant villain like Freeza, he’s an arrogant martial arts douche.
Also the scene where Crane Hermit tries to kill Goku in the middle of the night. As much as I like that scene it seems silly that Crane would personally try and take him out. Almost like it's beneath him.
Considering Goku had apparently killed his brother it makes sense that he would try to kill Goku personally.

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