"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Gogeta_Blue » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:24 am

Ok so Vegeta's ability

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Post by experted_luke » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:27 am

The fusion part will definitely be interesting. We can't say that Vegeta has won just yet. I'm not surprised if this moment'll be taken from him, but I hope it won't. If all goes horrible, at least get Beerus to interfere, as Moro has been threatening the mortality of other planets, thus leaving Universe 7 in peril. Have Beerus do more, but not always finish the job.

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Post by Matches Malone » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:28 am

Moro didn't just fuse with 7-3, he fused with Shimorika (is that how you spell it ?) as well. It was a 3 way fusion, and it looks like Goku, Piccolo, and Gohan are going to aid Vegeta.
Gogeta_Blue wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:24 am Ok so Vegeta's ability
Now the universe can't say he never did anything for them. :clap:

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Matches Malone wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:23 am
Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:20 amGiven how Vegeta seemed pretty confident in himself, he'll probably go like "Kakarot, we don't need to fuse! I can handle this on my own! We don't need fusion everytime we get in a fight!"

Goku: He'll change his mind when he gets kicked...eventually
To give Vegeta the benefit of the doubt, Moro was in a completely weakened state and 7-3 isn't that powerful, so how strong could their fusion really be ? Maybe he can pull it off, if even with some support from Goku on the side.

Moro fused with Shimorikka as well, it was a 3 way fusion.
Still Moro/7-3/Shimorekka fusion has:
Moro's energy absorption, while Vegeta has a way around it, the rest of the cast doesn't, making them targets with the exception of 17 and 18.
7-3's copying abilities, have you seen how much of a pain that was to deal with? Gohan and Piccolo legit had to do hurdles in order to find a way around it, and are lucky that he can only copy one ability for a period of time. If he gets his hand on the prince, its going to get ugly, which given Vegeta's confidence, is bound to happen.
If they felt desperate, could easily drain the earth if they felt like it.
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Post by GodVegetto91 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:29 am

Wow!!!!!!!! Totally, and utterly, MINDBLOWN!!!!

The design looks cool. Even though it looks like a genuine fusion, I think he really absorbed him into himself, and took on all of his characteristics. Like Cell on 17- and 18, Super Buu on Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan.

I.e. for all intents and purposes, this is just Moro (the conciousness owning it). And not a dual split personality as in Fusion.

Seems to me at least...

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Post by Matches Malone » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:30 am

experted_luke wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:27 am The fusion part will definitely be interesting. We can't say that Vegeta has won just yet.
Vegeta won the fight, but he'll need help winning the war, as Moro didn't just fuse with one person, he fused with 2. Now it's basically 3 on 1, unless Goku, Gohan, and Piccolo jump in to even the odds, which it looks like they will.

I cannot believe how far our predictions have been on this so far. Great job Toyotaro. :clap:

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Post by Femme Fatale Kikaza » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:33 am

Matches Malone wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:30 am
experted_luke wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:27 am The fusion part will definitely be interesting. We can't say that Vegeta has won just yet.
Vegeta won the fight, but he'll need help winning the war, as Moro didn't just fuse with one person, he fused with 2. Now it's basically 3 on 1, unless Goku, Gohan, and Piccolo jump in to even the odds, which it looks like they will.

I cannot believe how far our predictions have been on this so far. Great job Toyotaro. :clap:
Yeah, Vegeta may have beat Moro, but he's gonna need backup dealing with Moro's fusion. I feel like in order to stack up, we should have some of the Z fighters(NOT GOKU OR VEGETA) fuse, like 17-18 and Gohan or something, who are one the strongest fighters. Though I'm sure how you'll get 18's part in a male dominated fusion, I'm sure you can think of something.
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Post by experted_luke » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:34 am

Do you guys really think this fusion will be all that powerful? It just seems like a way to cliffhang into next month. A fusion between the three shouldn't be impossible for Goku and Vegeta to take out.

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Post by Matches Malone » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:37 am

experted_luke wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:34 am Do you guys really think this fusion will be all that powerful? It just seems like a way to cliffhang into next month. A fusion between the three shouldn't be impossible for Goku and Vegeta to take out.
Not only is the fusion going to be powerful, it'll have multiple techniques, like Moro's power drain and 7-3's copy abilities. If Goku and Vegeta were at full power you'd be right, but they're not. Goku's probably completely out of energy and Vegeta's at 40-50% at best. They'll need some massive strategy and back up from all the Z fighters to win this.

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Post by Femme Fatale Kikaza » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:37 am

experted_luke wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:34 am Do you guys really think this fusion will be all that powerful? It just seems like a way to cliffhang into next month. A fusion between the three shouldn't be impossible for Goku and Vegeta to take out.
More concerned about the fusion using 7-3 and Moro's abilities in a way to aid themselves(Shimorekka doesn't seem to have any notable abilities) and cause problems for Goku and Vegeta. If they find a way to get to Vegeta's neck, it'll be a problem. Hopefully the Z team's more upper class fighters like (Gohan, 18, 17 and Piccolo) will be of assistance while Goku and Vegeta are holding the fusion off.
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Post by Xeogran » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:39 am

I really LOVE that design?!?!

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Post by Femme Fatale Kikaza » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:42 am

Matches Malone wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:37 am
experted_luke wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:34 am Do you guys really think this fusion will be all that powerful? It just seems like a way to cliffhang into next month. A fusion between the three shouldn't be impossible for Goku and Vegeta to take out.
Not only is the fusion going to be powerful, it'll have multiple techniques, like Moro's power drain and 7-3's copy abilities. If Goku and Vegeta were at full power you'd be right, but they're not. Goku's probably completely out of energy and Vegeta's at 40-50% at best. They'll need some massive strategy and back up from all the Z fighters to win this.
I hope that if the fusion is becoming a problem in latter chapters, Gohan, 17 and 18 decide that the only way to play at Moro's game, is to fight dirty like Moro and follow suite and try fusing themselves. I mean, they can watch the fusion play out, surely they can copy it! I hope other members of the cast try fusing in order to stand a chance themselves, though I hope it isn't permanent like the fusion of Moro seems to be.
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Post by Matches Malone » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:43 am

Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:42 amI mean, they can watch the fusion play out, surely they can copy it!
It seems like Moro just ate them, so copying it isn't possible.
Xeogran wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:39 am I really LOVE that design?!?!
It's not bad or anything, it's just odd seeing those massive horns on someone else's head.

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Post by Femme Fatale Kikaza » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:48 am

Matches Malone wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:43 am
Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:42 amI mean, they can watch the fusion play out, surely they can copy it!
It seems like Moro just ate them, so copying it isn't possible.
Xeogran wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:39 am I really LOVE that design?!?!
It's not bad or anything, it's just odd seeing those massive horns on someone else's head.
I guess, though I hope maybe at least 17 and 18 can try fusing themsleves if this guy becomes too much of a problem for Goku and Vegeta. I mean, they aren't exactly snacks for Moro given they don't have ki.

Though the design is going to take some getting used to. And am I the only one who can't see where Shimorekka's part of the fusion is? Like it just seems like 7-3 and Moro fused, but I can't see Shimorekka at all.
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Post by Matches Malone » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:52 am

There's only 2 ways I see this playing out:

1- The Z fighters team up on him with Vegeta leading the attack.

2- Goku manages to tap into MUI again.

I'm fine with either, but I prefer a team attack at this point.
Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:48 amAm I the only one who can't see where Shimorekka's part of the fusion is? Like it just seems like 7-3 and Moro fused, but I can't see Shimorekka at all.
I don't think it's anything meant to be seen, as he may have some hidden ability we don't know about.

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Post by Femme Fatale Kikaza » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:56 am

Matches Malone wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:52 am There's only 2 ways I see this playing out:

1- The Z fighters team up on him with Vegeta leading the attack.

2- Goku manages to tap into MUI again.

I'm fine with either, but I prefer a team attack at this point.
Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:48 amAm I the only one who can't see where Shimorekka's part of the fusion is? Like it just seems like 7-3 and Moro fused, but I can't see Shimorekka at all.
I don't think it's anything meant to be seen, as he may have some hidden ability we don't know about.
As long it doesn't involve the 'Merus killing himself just cause' I think i'll be fine. If Moro/7-3/Shimorekka becomes that much of a problem, a team effort should be the way to go about this.

Shimorekka doesn't seem all that special, I can't see him having any overly special abilities. If he does, it has to be at least somewhat useful.
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Post by Matches Malone » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:59 am

Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:56 amShimorekka doesn't seem all that special, I can't see him having any overly special abilities. If he does, it has to be at least somewhat useful.
If he doesn't maybe Moro just didn't want him to feel left out, as I read he's a nice guy once you get to know him. :lol:

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Post by Femme Fatale Kikaza » Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:04 am

Matches Malone wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:59 am
Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:56 amShimorekka doesn't seem all that special, I can't see him having any overly special abilities. If he does, it has to be at least somewhat useful.
If he doesn't maybe Moro just didn't want him to feel left out, as I read he's a nice guy once you get to know him. :lol:
Probably jsut wants to keep all his extra minions within himself for safekeeping, you know just for the sake of an extra boost.

Personally, I hope they don't screw this up with Merus jumping in. If this fusion is becoming an issue that they can't kill, have Beerus do something about it as Beerus currently storming to Earth, if this fusion is all that's its made out to be , Beerus will probably go in to investigate.
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Post by Matches Malone » Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:07 am

Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:04 amPersonally, I hope they don't screw this up with Merus jumping in.
Same here, although I won't be as upset as I would've had he jumped in and stole Vegeta's victory. Personally, I think this is going to be a massive team fight against him, with Vegeta possibly landing the final blow, as he's currently the strongest fighter among them.
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