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The new reason Goku behaved horribly to Son Gohan as a child....

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:25 am

It wasnt due to his saiyan heritage...it was because he missed his parents and hated Son Gohan for replacing them... until he hit his head and forgot them...SAD.

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Post by TheGreatness25 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:57 am

Is this confirmed? I guess it would make sense seeing as how Goku is now playing the part of Superman. I'm surprised that they wouldn't have totally scrapped Goku being terrible with Gohan until he hit his head.

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Post by MasenkoHA » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:34 am

I will say one thing I do like about the Dragon Ball Minus/Super Broli retcon is Goku being a toddler instead of an infant makes it so his awful violent behavior pre-head injury is more learned behavior from his first few years being on Planet Vegeta rather than Saiyans being genetically inclined to violence

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Post by WittyUsername » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:30 pm

Meh, sure, why not?

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Re: The new reason Goku behaved horribly to Son Gohan as a child....

Post by emperior » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:53 am

It wasn’t. As every other Saiyan Goku didn’t care about his parents and heck he was too young to give a damn about them.

Goku was untamable because as a Saiyan that’s what his instinct was: to make a mess and get into a fighting with everything which breathes. Heck the first thing Broly did when he was sent on Vampa was to annihilate those insects, and he couldn’t care at all when Paragus arrived there.

Goku’s reaction to seeing Bardock or Gine would have been the same.

As Gohan said in Minus, it would have been ugly if Goku encountered someone else who wasn’t an accomplished martial artist capable of using the Kamehameha (Gohan was around Kame Sennin level which is superhuman and well above the standard Earthlings level aside a bunch of individuals).
Gohan really meant it. If Goku found himself with a bunch of normal humans he would have slaughtered them. Toddler or not. And he would have probably kept on slaughtering them out of habit.

We also know from the original manga that Gohan couldn’t tame Goku until the latter fell into a ravine and hit his head. And who knows how that even happened. Maybe it happened accidentally during a fight.
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Re: The new reason Goku behaved horribly to Son Gohan as a child....

Post by TheSeductiveTomato » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:22 am

emperior wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:53 am We also know from the original manga that Gohan couldn’t tame Goku until the latter fell into a ravine and hit his head. And who knows how that even happened. Maybe it happened accidentally during a fight.
Or maybe Gohan got sick of his shit and chucked him down the ravine :lol:

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Post by emperior » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:46 am

TheSeductiveTomato wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:22 am
emperior wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:53 am We also know from the original manga that Gohan couldn’t tame Goku until the latter fell into a ravine and hit his head. And who knows how that even happened. Maybe it happened accidentally during a fight.
Or maybe Gohan got sick of his shit and chucked him down the ravine :lol:
I thought of that too :lol: it would be quite a dark twist. Maybe that’s why the Oozaru killed him? It was just an instinctual revenge?
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Post by WittyUsername » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:32 pm

emperior wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:53 am It wasn’t. As every other Saiyan Goku didn’t care about his parents and heck he was too young to give a damn about them.

Goku was untamable because as a Saiyan that’s what his instinct was: to make a mess and get into a fighting with everything which breathes. Heck the first thing Broly did when he was sent on Vampa was to annihilate those insects, and he couldn’t care at all when Paragus arrived there.

Goku’s reaction to seeing Bardock or Gine would have been the same.

As Gohan said in Minus, it would have been ugly if Goku encountered someone else who wasn’t an accomplished martial artist capable of using the Kamehameha (Gohan was around Kame Sennin level which is superhuman and well above the standard Earthlings level aside a bunch of individuals).
Gohan really meant it. If Goku found himself with a bunch of normal humans he would have slaughtered them. Toddler or not. And he would have probably kept on slaughtering them out of habit.

We also know from the original manga that Gohan couldn’t tame Goku until the latter fell into a ravine and hit his head. And who knows how that even happened. Maybe it happened accidentally during a fight.
Goku did look sad when his parents sent him away. The implication is presumably supposed to be that Goku’s parents are partially where he gets his good nature from.

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Re: The new reason Goku behaved horribly to Son Gohan as a child....

Post by ArmenianPepsi » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:31 pm

MasenkoHA wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:34 am I will say one thing I do like about the Dragon Ball Minus/Super Broli retcon is Goku being a toddler instead of an infant makes it so his awful violent behavior pre-head injury is more learned behavior from his first few years being on Planet Vegeta rather than Saiyans being genetically inclined to violence
This may sound like a dumb question, but did the DB Minus material retcon the original Bardock special from existance? I'm still a tad confused about it. :lol:
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Re: The new reason Goku behaved horribly to Son Gohan as a child....

Post by MasenkoHA » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:35 pm

ArmenianPepsi wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:31 pm
MasenkoHA wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:34 am I will say one thing I do like about the Dragon Ball Minus/Super Broli retcon is Goku being a toddler instead of an infant makes it so his awful violent behavior pre-head injury is more learned behavior from his first few years being on Planet Vegeta rather than Saiyans being genetically inclined to violence
This may sound like a dumb question, but did the DB Minus material retcon the original Bardock special from existance? I'm still a tad confused about it. :lol:
As far as I can tell Bardock’s tv special and Dragon Ball Minus don’t jive together because the tv special portrayed Bardock as a standard Saiyan warrior who is fine committing mass genocide and doesn’t give a shit about his son(s) where Dragon Ball Minus he seems to at least love his second son

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Re: The new reason Goku behaved horribly to Son Gohan as a child....

Post by SuperSaiyaManZ94 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:43 pm

MasenkoHA wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:35 pm
ArmenianPepsi wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:31 pm
MasenkoHA wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:34 am I will say one thing I do like about the Dragon Ball Minus/Super Broli retcon is Goku being a toddler instead of an infant makes it so his awful violent behavior pre-head injury is more learned behavior from his first few years being on Planet Vegeta rather than Saiyans being genetically inclined to violence
This may sound like a dumb question, but did the DB Minus material retcon the original Bardock special from existance? I'm still a tad confused about it. :lol:
As far as I can tell Bardock’s tv special and Dragon Ball Minus don’t jive together because the tv special portrayed Bardock as a standard Saiyan warrior who is fine committing mass genocide and doesn’t give a shit about his son(s) where Dragon Ball Minus he seems to at least love his second son
That has to be by far the biggest change with Minus, they have Bardock actually have genuine care for Goku/Kakarot whereas of course in the original special he regarded him as nothing more than a lowly weakling who would never amount to anything special. It really is heavy departure from the character as he was previously depicted for the longest time, and continuing that with the opening of DBS: Broly.
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Re: The new reason Goku behaved horribly to Son Gohan as a child....

Post by WittyUsername » Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:40 pm

The Bardock special and Minus don’t work together for reasons besides Bardock’s characterization. The Bardock special has Goku being sent away by some random members of Freeza’s empire in order to conquer Earth, while Minus has Bardock being the one to send him away in order to keep him safe. Also, the Bardock special has Bardock learning about Freeza’s plans to wipe out the Saiyans through ominous visions of the future, while Minus just sort of has him figuring it out on his own.

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