Matches Malone wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:17 pm
ZeroNeonix wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:42 pmPersonally, I always thought the originally Broly was stupid. The story surrounding him was garbage, his motivation was stupid, he screamed Kakarot way too much.
He was basically every Dragon Ball Z stereotype personified.
Rather than being just a mindless killing machine on steroids, Super Broly is actually complex and interesting.
Despite being a sympathetic character when he's calm, there's a beast inside, waiting to be unleashed if somebody decides to poke the bear.
What exactly did the new Broly say once he started fighting Goku and Vegeta ? not a single word. If you don't like the original Broly for not talking, then why does modern Broly get a pass ? Speaking of motivation, what exactly was modern Broly's ? he fights because daddy tells him to, what an Oscar worthy plot point.
But they made it work, which is proven by not only his ability to stand the test of time, but even be recognized by Toriyama himself.
There's nothing complex about him, he's just as straight forward as every other DB villain introduced since day one. In terms of being interesting, he's a step above Jiren, but that's as much as I'm willing to give him.
Never mind the fact no one pokes him, he just freaks out like the original did, the only difference is that Koyama knew the kind of character he wanted, while Toriyama was trying to have his cake and eat it too.
Did I say that I didn't like original Broly because he didn't talk? No. I said I didn't like that he repeated the phrase "Kakarot" every five seconds. Imagine if in the early MCU movies, every time Hulk broke something, he'd say, "Hulk smash!" Would that have been preferable to the roars and growls he made in the movies? No. Same here. No dialogue is preferable to one phrase being used over and over and over.
Old Broly is memorable because of his design. That's it. Nobody misses the old story, because it was stupid and forgettable. They just like him because he's a big, vicious, mindless killing machine. And he's still that in the new movie. Now if you prefer his old look with the gold necklace, armbands, etc, fair enough. Although I'd argue Broly's new look fits his backstory better. Old Broly looks like royalty, while Super Broly looks like a wildboy.
Paragus' motivation in the old movie doesn't really make sense. I mean, sure, they tried to kill his son, but he and his son were the only ones to survive the explosion on Planet Vegeta. Broly takes him to a new planet of weaklings, which they conquer, and they live like kings. What was left to be mad about? New Paragus doesn't even know about his planet's destruction, so when he's stuck on a barren wasteland for 30 years, it makes sense he'd still harbor a grudge against the Saiyan royal family, even if his anger does end up being misdirected at the younger Vegeta. Speaking of Vegeta, that's another thing they fixed. Originally, Vegeta was left on the sidelines, cowering while Broly focused on Goku, the source of Broly's "trauma." In the new movie, Paragus sicks Broly on Vegeta first, and Goku only taps in later because...well, he's Goku, and he always has to be the hero in the end.
If you really prefer the original Broly over the new one, are you sure it isn't just nostalgia goggles causing you to prefer the way things used to be? I mean, I grew up with the original Broly, and I struggle to think of a single thing the original did better.