What Could Freeza Be Planning???

[theherodjl]

He's talked of a few things such as a potential coup against Beerus, messing around with the cosmic hierarchy of the other universes, and even the particularly-bold claim of someday ruling over Zeno but why say such things? He's not even strong enough to defeat the Z Senshi, let alone make Zeno of all beings bow beneath him. Is Freeza just voicing megalomanical frustration as well as empty threats like what Quitela did prior to being erased?

[SupremeKai25]

In the Tournament of Power he said he wanted to dethrone Zeno and rule over the gods, but he seems to have abandoned that goal (probably because he realized he stands no chance). Besides he wanted to control the gods with the Super Dragon Balls, too bad that he doesn't know their location so he has no hope.

His current goal is revenge. He can't defeat Goku and Vegeta alone, that's why he wants to find Broly and bring him into his ranks. Then he can unleash Broly on the saiyans and get his revenge.

[Lionel]

I think Freeza's fury has been placated -- at least enough to allow him to take a step back and contemplate his future plans. If he's going to have any hope of building himself up to the point where he is able to gain some hierarchical clout then I believe his best course of action would to work within the system. As it stands no one can touch any of the angels, let alone Zeno. My thoughts are that Freeza's best window is the Hakaishin position where he could improve the mortal rank of his universe -- which has the secondary benefit of preserving his own empire at home -- and establishing closer ties to celestial overseers.

Freeza as an effective and reliable Hakaishin who is capable of manipulating others has a greater chance of achieving his goals than an openly belligerent ningen who is promptly swatted away by Goku or Beerus.

[Polyphase Avatron]

If Zamasu was able to gain access to the Super Dragonballs and make wishes without the angels and Zeno knowing, then why couldn't Freeza do the same thing?

[LoganForkHands73]

I think he's planning to use the Super Dragon Balls in order to wish...

To grow 2.5cm in height.

5cm would be too noticeable.

[Zephyr]

I don't know what he's planning, but we already know where it leads.

[Koitsukai]

Aside of Freeza's plots being mostly anime filler with no back up from the main source, I think in the long run he wants to murder the saiyans through Broly, and if his control over Broly is successful(highly unlikely), perhaps challenge Beerus too. If he were to know about the kaioshin-hakaishin life-link then things might get interesting.

If Zamasu was able to gain access to the Super Dragonballs and make wishes without the angels and Zeno knowing, then why couldn't Freeza do the same thing?

I think the main issue is that he can't travel to U6 to gather the rest of the SDBs. He would never get the cube, that is if he even knows about it.

[SupremeKai25]

Actually Frieza would need to know who Zuno is in order to find the Super Dragon Balls. That is how Zamasu did it, he had Zuno tell him the location of each ball. However I dont believe Frieza or any of his men are even aware of Zuno.

Logistically Frieza cant gather them , or it would take a very long time anyway. Zamasu was able to collect the Dragon Balls so fast because, as a Kai, he had an advanced form of teleportation which allowed him to travel to any place he wanted, and he also possessed advanced telekinesis which allowed him to move the massive planet-sized balls. Since Frieza and his men have neither of those, it would take them much longer than Zamasu to gather the balls... at which point they would just get caught in the act by the Gods.

[JulieYBM]

I doubt Toriyama knows yet. I think it would be interesting if he cloned Broli, though, as an homage to Movie #14, but to be used as his personal beast. Giving Broli a sort of 'rival' and story arc of setting hinself a part from his clone.

I dunno, I just don't think Toriyama does, either.

[Peach]

Frieza is just blowing steam when it comes to Zeno.

As for what's next for Frieza? Who knows. My first thoughts at the end of the Broly movie were that next he's going to find a fusion partner or wait Broly's two friends to "tame" him. At that point he would manipulate Broly to use him as a tool against Beerus/Goku/Vegeta. But I don't think Broly is that stupid. Especially if he's getting into friendly spars with Goku.

[UI Peter]

A "Freeza overthrows the Divine hierarchy" saga seriously needs to happen, otherwise bringing him back to life for a 2nd time would have been pointless.

[Jack Bz]

If Zamasu was able to gain access to the Super Dragonballs and make wishes without the angels and Zeno knowing, then why couldn't Freeza do the same thing?

Freeza doesn't even know the divine language, he'd need a god to translate the wish for him unless he can use regular dragon balls to learn it.

[SupremeKai25]

Oh yeah I completely forgot that the Super Dragon Balls can only be used if you know divine language. That was actually the main argument I used back in the day to explain why Frieza would fail in his attempt to dethrone the Gods. If he won the Tournament of Power, of course the Grand Priest wouldn't let him wish to remove Zeno and the other Gods!

[Polyphase Avatron]

Oh yeah I completely forgot that the Super Dragon Balls can only be used if you know divine language. That was actually the main argument I used back in the day to explain why Frieza would fail in his attempt to dethrone the Gods. If he won the Tournament of Power, of course the Grand Priest wouldn't let him wish to remove Zeno and the other Gods!

Isn't it just Japanese spoken backwards? Not that hard to figure out.

[SupremeKai25]

Oh yeah I completely forgot that the Super Dragon Balls can only be used if you know divine language. That was actually the main argument I used back in the day to explain why Frieza would fail in his attempt to dethrone the Gods. If he won the Tournament of Power, of course the Grand Priest wouldn't let him wish to remove Zeno and the other Gods!

Isn't it just Japanese spoken backwards? Not that hard to figure out.

That's meta knowledge that the characters in the story obviously don't have.

[Thanos]

I doubt Toriyama knows yet. I think it would be interesting if he cloned Broli, though, as an homage to Movie #14, but to be used as his personal beast. Giving Broli a sort of 'rival' and story arc of setting hinself a part from his clone.

Yeah, because what this franchise needs is more Broli, right?

I do agree with the first sentence though. Certainly on-brand with the man's writing style.

As for Freeza, I would actually prefer for him to continue his role of helping out the "good guys" whenever it's in his best interest, I absolutely adore the piss-taking between he and Vegeta, and everyone's buttcheeks growing together whenever he's around. Any opportunity to hear Ryosei Nakao's scenery-chewing and "oh-ho-ho!" antics is great television.

[JulieYBM]

I doubt Toriyama knows yet. I think it would be interesting if he cloned Broli, though, as an homage to Movie #14, but to be used as his personal beast. Giving Broli a sort of 'rival' and story arc of setting hinself a part from his clone.

Yeah, because what this franchise needs is more Broli, right?

I do agree with the first sentence though. Certainly on-brand with the man's writing style.

As for Freeza, I would actually prefer for him to continue his role of helping out the "good guys" whenever it's in his best interest, I absolutely adore the piss-taking between he and Vegeta, and everyone's buttcheeks growing together whenever he's around. Any opportunity to hear Ryosei Nakao's scenery-chewing and "oh-ho-ho!" antics is great television.

Yeah, it does need more Broli. He's hot, a good boy and I like his scenes with Cheelai and Lemo. I wanna see them in more situations.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I doubt Toriyama knows yet. I think it would be interesting if he cloned Broli, though, as an homage to Movie #14, but to be used as his personal beast. Giving Broli a sort of 'rival' and story arc of setting hinself a part from his clone.

Yeah, because what this franchise needs is more Broli, right?

I do agree with the first sentence though. Certainly on-brand with the man's writing style.

As for Freeza, I would actually prefer for him to continue his role of helping out the "good guys" whenever it's in his best interest, I absolutely adore the piss-taking between he and Vegeta, and everyone's buttcheeks growing together whenever he's around. Any opportunity to hear Ryosei Nakao's scenery-chewing and "oh-ho-ho!" antics is great television.

Yeah, it does need more Broli. He's hot, a good boy and I like his scenes with Cheelai and Lemo. I wanna see them in more situations.

Really there is no point in introducing them if they're not going to do anything with them. I kept waiting for Broly to be involved in the Moro arc, but no luck.

[FishermanJohnWest]

Broly is a fan service character with insane portrayal. Since Frieza isn't cutting it anymore in being a threat, they are most likely going to use Broly to get shit done for Frieza