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Calling all translators and editors

Post by Dayspring » Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:47 pm

Anybody up for a joint venture project translating and editing some mini-manga (documentary and gag) Toriyama made for Weekly Jump (all Dragonball manga related)?

1) One of them, a 6-panel X-Mas special, has the last appearance of Lunch (from the Namek saga!!!).

2) Another is a 4 chapter (4-panels per chapter) mini-manga called "The Manga Training of MutenRoshi!"

3) Another 4 chapter manga (4 panels again) is "Akira Toriyama, the grand master of manga!!"

4) A 15-panel manga called "The Anime and Me", where Toriyama explains why there's filler, that he loves filler, and considers Dragonball to be the manga AND the anime (...does that mean he considers filler as canon?! :shock: ). It's also the one where he explains he once considered having Goku as an old geezer at the end of the manga (he drew geezer goku in this panel)

5) Don't need help for this one. It's the famous but lost 4-panel manga of Vegeta getting a gutterball as Toriyama's contribution to "First Drawings of the New Year of Jump!"

I need a translator for projects 1, 2, and 3 of the of the four chapters of the third project. I need editors (someone to replace the katakana with english text) for all but the Vegeta one. I can translate some, but only from katakana to alphabet. EX: "Bathing suit" would go from katakana to "Mizugi".

And yes, I have the info concerning what years+volumes of Weekly Jump they appeared in.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:31 am

We get to put it all on the site if Julian does it! >.<

Bwuahaha. Awesome shit, though.
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Post by Dayspring » Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:47 am

VegettoEX wrote:We get to put it all on the site if Julian does it! >.<

Bwuahaha. Awesome shit, though.
Fine, but I want my name in the credits AND, on the page where you put it up, I'd like a statement that says it was a joint venture with me, and a link to my site.

You know you're a nobody in the DB community when bartering with Vegetto EX seems cool. :P
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Re: Calling all translators and editors

Post by SaiyaJedi » Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:03 pm

I'm game for it. So long as it can be done on dialup, that is. :?

So... yeah, sure, why not?
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Post by Jerseymilk » Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:11 pm

What sort of job would editing entail? I'd be willing to help out that way.
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Post by Dayspring » Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:40 pm

Jerseymilk wrote:What sort of job would editing entail? I'd be willing to help out that way.
Once the translations are done, it would mean replacing the katakana on the original pics with the translations. I'd do it myself but my computer's dying. So instead I'm doing the scanning (for obvious reasons) and translating the ones that were translated into French.
SaiyaJedi wrote:I'm game for it. So long as it can be done on dialup, that is.
I'm not sure what you meant by that, but what I'm going to do is put it up on my photobucket account and send you the links to each manga. Then you can just d/l them to your computer whenever you want.
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Post by Dayspring » Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:16 pm

Update: I translated the french portions ("The Anime and Me" and the 1st chapter of "Akira Toriyama the Grand Master of Manga!") as well as wrote down the info for all of them (when/where they appeared, etc).

I also translated the captions/explanations for the DBGT prototype sketches that appeared in Weekly Jump. If you want, I'd like to propose a trade (if you don't have them in your daizenshuu that is): I send you these pics+captions in exchange for letting me use your chapter 3 of NMZ? My site's mainly a blog but I want to show off rare stuff concerning DB from Toriyama, etc. NMZ falls into that category perfectly. I'd link to you and give you full credit for it, of course.
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Post by SaiyaJedi » Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:30 pm

Dayspring wrote:If you want, I'd like to propose a trade (if you don't have them in your daizenshuu that is): I send you these pics+captions in exchange for letting me use your chapter 3 of NMZ? My site's mainly a blog but I want to show off rare stuff concerning DB from Toriyama, etc. NMZ falls into that category perfectly. I'd link to you and give you full credit for it, of course.
A link to the DaizEX page with it would suffice.

The rest sounds good to me. :)
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Post by Dayspring » Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:19 pm

KICK. ASS. Just so you know, one of these pics wasn't even shown in Japan. It was a pic of GT Goku+co that was to be used on a free phone card that was to be given away with one of the issues of 1995's Weekly Jumps. Due to an error they never went through with the promotion. According to the caption for the pic, the first time fans would see it is in the version of the Daizenshuu that I have.
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Post by laserkid » Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:05 am

I'm not nearly good enough with Japanese to translate but I've got editing ability if you give me images and translations and where they go I can very easily work with that (PSP7 and me are good friends) - so if you guys arent going to do that I'm good for it.
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Post by Dayspring » Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:42 am

GYAAAA!!! My scanner's too crappy!!! The scans are all pixellated!!

Let's hope I'm just an asshole! Who else has an HP PrecisionScan LT????


And Laser, you can do the editing on (at least) "The Anime and me". It was french so I've already translated it, and I'm scanning it now.
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Post by Dayspring » Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:47 pm

Dayspring wrote:GYAAAA!!! My scanner's too crappy!!! The scans are all pixellated!!

Let's hope I'm just an asshole! Who else has an HP PrecisionScan LT????
Here's the quality of the scans. I introduce to you, Geezer Goku!
**Removed do to its shiteness and the fact that I needed to make room on my account for higher quality pics. If you want to look at Geezer Goku, look at my avatar**
Dayspring wrote: And Laser, you can do the editing on (at least) "The Anime and me". It was french so I've already translated it, and I'm scanning it now.
Check your PMs in about 5-10 mins. I'll send you the links to my photobucket account for the "The Anime and Me" manga and give you additional info concerning the editing.
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Post by PsyLiam » Mon Jun 28, 2004 1:38 pm

That's not pixellation, that's moire-patterning, caused by the fact that the image is already made up of dots, and when they're scanned they cause other dots, for complicated reasons that I can't remember.

Try changing the resolution you are scanning at. That sometimes help. Or look for any option to do with moire-patterning.
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Post by Dayspring » Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:59 pm

So far not so good. I don't have moire-pattering option, and playing w/ resolution just seems to shorten/enlarge the pic rather than do anything about the dots.

Nobody else has posted. Is the scan quality ok with you guys as is?
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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:01 pm

Scan quality's pretty crappy.

Scanning an image at a larger resolution does not actually change its size; its "dots-per-inch" is just different. I'd say scan it at something like 400 dpi, and then change it back down to 72 dpi in Photoshop after scanning. You can do this in the "Image Size" menu (then again, I have no idea if you're using Photoshop).
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Post by Dayspring » Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:10 pm

VegettoEX wrote:and then change it back down to 72 dpi in Photoshop after scanning. You can do this in the "Image Size" menu (then again, I have no idea if you're using Photoshop).
Paintshop I'm afraid. And I'm no wizard at that either. Any ideas how to reduce it to 72 dpi using Paintshop? Another alternative that I'm sure nobody wants to do is have me put it up on photobucket and have one the volunteer editors dl the 400 dpi version and do it themselves.
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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:12 pm

I'd be more than happy to try and clean up the large images and insert the translated text.

In fact, I insist upon doing so :P

Save the images in PNG format. I don't use Paint Shop, and I'd want a lossless version.
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Post by PsyLiam » Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:46 pm

I'm pretty sure that Photoshop can import PSP stuff. The later can import the former, at any rate...

And the resize option in PSP is cunningly hidden in the Image menu, under "resize". Genius, eh? One of the options is "pixels per inch" (which is just another way of saying DPI). It can be changed there.

And if Mike runs out of time to do the image editting stuff, I should be able to help.
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Post by Dayspring » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:22 pm

VegettoEX wrote:I'd be more than happy to try and clean up the large images and insert the translated text.

In fact, I insist upon doing so :P
I see. So you just want you, me and Julian working on this project then?
VegettoEX wrote: Save the images in PNG format. I don't use Paint Shop, and I'd want a lossless version.
Is it safe to assume that PNG is the same as "PNG Bitmap File"? If not, here's what I can save as with this scanner:

Bitmap File (*.bmp)
GIF Bitmap File (*.gif)
JPEG Bitmap File (*.jpg)
FlashPix Bitmap File (*.fpx)
PCX Bitmap File (*.pcx)
PNG Bitmap File (*.png)
TIFF File (*.tif)
TIFF Compressed (*.tif)
Windows Metafile

I know these sound like newbie questions that I seem to know the answer to, but I'm not in the mood to make assumptions and find out later that I did something wrong.
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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:50 pm

In this case, "bitmap" doesn't necessarily refer to Microsoft's *.BMP uncompressed format; it just refers to any images that are comprised of pixels.

Yep, go with the PNG (*.png). Stands for Portable Networks Graphic. It's a lossless image format (just like HuffyUV for AVIs). It's essentially like zipping the image, but without needing to unzip it to work with it.

Short answer... yes >.> Hehe.
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