Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
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- Fionordequester
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Well, let's not worry, in any case. Vegetto & Bra have big flaws, along with their redeeming qualities, and boy howdy, Salagir's got some plans for them !
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
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You know how universally liked your waifu character is when you pit them against a child abuser for most disliked.
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At this rate and Salagir’s “they have a long way to go” I feel like DBM is gonna go on for another 20 years
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I guess Bra's redeeming qualities are yet to come
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Bra's redeeming quality I guess is that she was abused as a kid? Her bond with Gohan however should have been much stronger as he was the one who tried to help her. Personally I would have had her mourn Goten quicker realizing her mistake then Vegito shows up.
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I'm not sure it's considered child abuse when your child has destroyed an entire planet of people, including their brother, along with the entire solar system. At this point, especially considering her reaction to finding out she surpassed Gohan, it is irresponsible to leave her alive. At the very least, she should be Evil Containment Waved into a rice cooker and left somewhere no one would ever find her.
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That's an interesting spin. I guess he underestimated how awful he created her.Fionordequester wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:09 pm Well, let's not worry, in any case. Vegetto & Bra have big flaws, along with their redeeming qualities, and boy howdy, Salagir's got some plans for them !
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No, no, see, it's kind of like when Piccolo told Super Buu to kill all the earthlings. Pre-tty awful stuff, even if his intent was good... But hey, they have the Dragon Balls. That kinda just makes everything better:
Not that we're saying Vegetto's bad, mind. His heart was in the right place, dude just didn't choose his words very carefully. Goku & Vegeta were flawed parents, so Vegetto's got some issues there, too.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
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Hm.Fionordequester wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:44 amNo, no, see, it's kind of like when Piccolo told Super Buu to kill all the earthlings. Pre-tty awful stuff, even if his intent was good... But hey, they have the Dragon Balls. That kinda just makes everything better:
Not that we're saying Vegetto's bad, mind. His heart was in the right place, dude just didn't choose his words very carefully. Goku & Vegeta were flawed parents, so Vegetto's got some issues there, too.
I don't think its even remotely close to compare what Piccolo did, to Bra.
1) There was no one physically outside of a fusion that could stop Buu, and only the dragonballs could reverse the effects. If Piccolo went all heroic, everyone on the lookout dies, and that meant Gotenks was never going to be able to hold the line (though they predicted he'd save the world) and that the dragonballs would not be able to reverse what happened. It was a cold calculated call, but there was a reset button.
2) What happened on that planet, Bra wasn't Piccolo. Bra was Buu. She actively killed those people upon losing control of herself. And she gave no fucks about it because she's now stronger than Gohan. Yes, the Dragonballs can bring those people back, And yes, losing control can be forgiven, if the character who lost control actually has remorse. But Bra didn't. And even if Bra had remorse for her actions, she still wouldn't be the Piccolo in the situation, because what she did, wasn't for some burning matchstick thrown into the darkness, full of hope, believing that if Buu's sadism is sated, things can be fixed later. She lost her mind. Period. She was the sadist.
And I don't give 2 shits what Salagir says about Vegetto. Vegetto is whatever he wants him to be. You can blame or bless anything Vegetto does to Goku or Vegeta with him. So whatever on that.
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He still immediately charged in with a punch to the face. Against a child.ZeroNeonix wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:27 am I'm not sure it's considered child abuse when your child has destroyed an entire planet of people, including their brother, along with the entire solar system. At this point, especially considering her reaction to finding out she surpassed Gohan, it is irresponsible to leave her alive. At the very least, she should be Evil Containment Waved into a rice cooker and left somewhere no one would ever find her.
Now that child may have the power of the gods, but so does he, so relatively, its the same difference between say, us and a regular child. He could probably go with less severe approaches than straight up face punch.
And this is coming from someone who would very much like to punch Multiverse Bra in the face.
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What else could he have done, patted her on the head and gently scolded her? The only way of stopping her was to knock her out.JewyB wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:30 pmHe still immediately charged in with a punch to the face. Against a child.ZeroNeonix wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:27 am I'm not sure it's considered child abuse when your child has destroyed an entire planet of people, including their brother, along with the entire solar system. At this point, especially considering her reaction to finding out she surpassed Gohan, it is irresponsible to leave her alive. At the very least, she should be Evil Containment Waved into a rice cooker and left somewhere no one would ever find her.
Now that child may have the power of the gods, but so does he, so relatively, its the same difference between say, us and a regular child. He could probably go with less severe approaches than straight up face punch.
And this is coming from someone who would very much like to punch Multiverse Bra in the face.
Also I agree with everything FoolsGil said in response to the Piccolo vs Bra debate
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I can't believe the author sees Bra as Piccolo and not as Buu. It explains why his story is a mess though.
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I mean, he could have restrained her, he's stronger than her no?
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So, Salagir basically called Vegitto a psychopath, and used that as an excuse for why Bra is a psychopath (but isn't, according to Salagir)?
This is practically right up there with those rare but horrifying fanfics that put Goku and Bra together (no, I never read them, only saw them listed among other fanfics).
This is practically right up there with those rare but horrifying fanfics that put Goku and Bra together (no, I never read them, only saw them listed among other fanfics).
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Goku and Bra? That's one hell of a crack pairing. There's literally no reason he would even look at Bra.Jackalope89 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:57 pm So, Salagir basically called Vegitto a psychopath, and used that as an excuse for why Bra is a psychopath (but isn't, according to Salagir)?
This is practically right up there with those rare but horrifying fanfics that put Goku and Bra together (no, I never read them, only saw them listed among other fanfics).
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Yeah I read one out of morbid curiosity and they’re as horrifying as you think. Yikes.Jackalope89 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:57 pm So, Salagir basically called Vegitto a psychopath, and used that as an excuse for why Bra is a psychopath (but isn't, according to Salagir)?
This is practically right up there with those rare but horrifying fanfics that put Goku and Bra together (no, I never read them, only saw them listed among other fanfics).
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Yeah, I would rather NOT get into the heads of those people.FoolsGil wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:00 pmGoku and Bra? That's one hell of a crack pairing. There's literally no reason he would even look at Bra.Jackalope89 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:57 pm So, Salagir basically called Vegitto a psychopath, and used that as an excuse for why Bra is a psychopath (but isn't, according to Salagir)?
This is practically right up there with those rare but horrifying fanfics that put Goku and Bra together (no, I never read them, only saw them listed among other fanfics).
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She was in the moddle of a rampage. Trying to restrain her peacefully would have probably resulted in her turning on him. And again, she murdered a whole planet. He would have been justified if he snapped her neck instead. She's only alive because she has the privilege of being his daughter.
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Its the equivalent of a saiyan tantrum. When real children lash out and throw a tantrum and start hitting people we can still restrain them without knocking them unconscious.ZeroNeonix wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:06 pm She was in the moddle of a rampage. Trying to restrain her peacefully would have probably resulted in her turning on him. And again, she murdered a whole planet. He would have been justified if he snapped her neck instead. She's only alive because she has the privilege of being his daughter.