Does anyone else feel that much of the DB fandom enforces low standards?

kemuri07 · Post by **kemuri07** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:06 pm

The problem is: DB is such a completely different beast than Demon Slayer. A lot of that comes to how DS is structured. Even DBS is still structured after classic DB in its narrative--just, you know, worse.

Demon Slayer, and other shonen of its type, are more personal narratives and can support the kind of quality over quantity structure that makes it successful. DB is pretty much designed to put out as much content as humanly possible.

DBNamek · Post by **DBNamek** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:16 pm

With DS, the biggest reason they are so successful is because of the anime. I have never watched or read DS, only heard that it's a pretty solid series, but certainly nothing groundbreaking. But the anime adaptation was so successful, the manga sales skyrocketed.

Cure Dragon 255 · Post by **Cure Dragon 255** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm

I just LOVE how much song and dance is made about Demon Slayer's quality yet no actual demonstration of it is made? What does it do better than Dragon Ball? Does it use its characters better? Better pacing? Better World Building? No, its just "Better Quality" as if that is an objective thing.

JewyB · Post by **JewyB** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:00 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm I just LOVE how much song and dance is made about Demon Slayer's quality yet no actual demonstration of it is made? What does it do better than Dragon Ball? Does it use its characters better? Better pacing? Better World Building? No, its just "Better Quality" as if that is an objective thing.

The sword animations are really nice.

Cure Dragon 255 · Post by **Cure Dragon 255** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:02 pm

Yeah. That's a good thing. Nice animation. That's always great.

UI Peter · Post by **UI Peter** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:16 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm I just LOVE how much song and dance is made about Demon Slayer's quality yet no actual demonstration of it is made? What does it do better than Dragon Ball? Does it use its characters better? Better pacing? Better World Building? No, its just "Better Quality" as if that is an objective thing.

It does all of the above better than modern DB, and yes it is an objective thing.

kemuri07 · Post by **kemuri07** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:17 am

Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 pm I just LOVE how much song and dance is made about Demon Slayer's quality yet no actual demonstration of it is made? What does it do better than Dragon Ball? Does it use its characters better? Better pacing? Better World Building? No, its just "Better Quality" as if that is an objective thing.

Ummm, no one is saying that?

Also these questions are easily answerable if you just watched the show.

Cure Dragon 255 · Post by **Cure Dragon 255** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:06 am

Yes. They did. Matches Malone post did not have any arguments to it. Other than its "Its good takemywordforitkthnxbai". Only the person who actually said "It does all of the above better than modern DB, and yes it is an objective thing." actually gave me an answer. Only their little comeback backfired because I meant to say "People saying better quality" isnt objective while "Does it use its characters better? Better pacing? Better World Building? " DOES have an objective answer AND THAT Proves Demon Slayer is better than Dragon Ball. So he or she won the argument but decided to be petty instead.

And Please dont tell me to check out a series just so you can win arguments.

precita · Post by **precita** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:30 am

Dragonball has always been heavily criticized compared to whatever popular anime was airing in Japan, the same happened in the 90's and early 2000's. Every time a new shonen comes out, people always say, "this is much better than Dragonball" and of course they're free to do so, and many prefer other similar action or shonen anime over Dragonball.

This isn't a new concept, you guys don't remember the same thing happened in the 90's and early 2000's? People always said, "this show has much better action scenes, writing, and animation than Dragonball Z." I remember this since 2001.

Matches Malone · Post by **Matches Malone** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:52 am

Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:06 amMatches Malone post did not have any arguments to it. Other than its "Its good takemywordforitkthnxbai". "Does it use its characters better? Better pacing? Better World Building? "

I don't think I said it like that, but I'll answer your questions. If we're comparing it to the original DB, then it's pretty subjective, as both have good characters, good worlds, good plots, etc... If we're comparing it to modern DB, then just about any name you pull out of a hat does everything better, much less the current biggest manga in Japan. You'd have to go through a good number of names before finding something as mediocre as modern DB.

Cure Dragon 255 · Post by **Cure Dragon 255** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:57 am

That IS a much better answer. I will go and sit down now.

kemuri07 · Post by **kemuri07** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:03 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:06 am Yes. They did. Matches Malone post did not have any arguments to it. Other than its "Its good takemywordforitkthnxbai". Only the person who actually said "It does all of the above better than modern DB, and yes it is an objective thing." actually gave me an answer. Only their little comeback backfired because I meant to say "People saying better quality" isnt objective while "Does it use its characters better? Better pacing? Better World Building? " DOES have an objective answer AND THAT Proves Demon Slayer is better than Dragon Ball. So he or she won the argument but decided to be petty instead.

And Please dont tell me to check out a series just so you can win arguments.

Dude. You need to take a chill pill. Literally no one is fighting you here.

So yes, go sit down.

Cure Dragon 255 · Post by **Cure Dragon 255** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:45 pm

Ok, I deserved that. I was rude.

Matches Malone · Post by **Matches Malone** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:08 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:45 pmOk, I deserved that. I was rude.

You were very rude young man, now go to your room and think about what you've done.

Cure Dragon 255 · Post by **Cure Dragon 255** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:13 pm

Now I feel like being rude again.

But nah. I will take the chance to be nice instead of a fucking asshole like I was before. Sorry everyone. I was in a bit of a ranty mood.

Matches Malone · Post by **Matches Malone** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:25 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:13 pmBut nah. I will take the chance to be nice instead of a fucking asshole like I was before. Sorry everyone. I was in a bit of a ranty mood.

Don't worry about it, this year has made it difficult to be in anything other than a ranty mood. Hopefully next year things will improve, as I'm really tired of all the chaos this year has brought us.

Cure Dragon 255 · Post by **Cure Dragon 255** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:34 pm

Thanks for being so understanding. You are awesome.

UI Peter · Post by **UI Peter** » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:11 pm

Another annoying thing I see in much of the fandom is folks bash OG Dragonball/Z just to defend Super, and folks who bash/downplay other anime just to defend DB in general.

Matches Malone · Post by **Matches Malone** » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:15 am

UI Peter wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:11 pm Another annoying thing I see in much of the fandom is folks bash OG Dragonball/Z just to defend Super, and folks who bash/downplay other anime just to defend DB in general.

I agree with both of these. I think people believe that there's something wrong admitting that what they like isn't the best in its field, which isn't the case at all. Is DB/Z the best Shonen ? far from it, but it's still my favorite, and always will be. You don't have to bring down others to justify why you like something, just like it for what it is.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:15 am

I think we should all step back from fandom and just like what we like how we like it. I know there's a need to share that love but I am really beginning to suspect that forums and the like are not the place for that. Fandom cannot be some all-consuming aspect of our lives. I guess that's funny to hear from a woman who has spent literally half of her life on this forum and has 13,000+ posts but it is definitely something that has come to my mind the older I get, the more responsibilities I get of importance and the like.

Basically, fuck fandom, hang with your friends and fuck everyone else.

Kanzenshuu

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