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ZeroNeonix
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by ZeroNeonix » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:16 am
dbgtFO wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:58 am
ZeroNeonix wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:54 pm
It's weird. It's like they have two completely different styles. One simplistic, cartoonist style for when characters are viewed from a distance, and one hyper realistic style when close up. It's almost like how in Ren and Stimpy, you'd occasionally get these gross close up shots with a ton of detail.
Never saw Ren and Stimpy, but the same feature was used in Powerpuff Girls and Dexter's laboratory on occasion. Seems to be something done in a bunch of 90's american cartoons. No clue if current shows make those gross, detailed close ups.
I don't know if Ren & Stimpy invented that detailed closeup style, but they definitely popularized it.
Regular Ren & Stimpy:
Closeup:

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by dbgtFO » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:29 am
ZeroNeonix wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:16 am
dbgtFO wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:58 am
ZeroNeonix wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:54 pm
It's weird. It's like they have two completely different styles. One simplistic, cartoonist style for when characters are viewed from a distance, and one hyper realistic style when close up. It's almost like how in Ren and Stimpy, you'd occasionally get these gross close up shots with a ton of detail.
Never saw Ren and Stimpy, but the same feature was used in Powerpuff Girls and Dexter's laboratory on occasion. Seems to be something done in a bunch of 90's american cartoons. No clue if current shows make those gross, detailed close ups.
I don't know if Ren & Stimpy invented that detailed closeup style, but they definitely popularized it.
Regular Ren & Stimpy:
Yeah tvtropes agrees with that:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... sUpCloseUp
And of course they have a page on that

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by Slangh » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:10 pm
Ah, the glory of two glowing old guys beating each other up. Not that interesting since Vegeta officially became a 'good guy', yet modern DB insists on hyping it up.
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by ZeroNeonix » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:48 pm
Slangh wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:10 pm
Ah, the glory of two glowing old guys beating each other up. Not that interesting since Vegeta officially became a 'good guy', yet modern DB insists on hyping it up.
It's not about the stakes. For Goku and Vegeta, it's a test to see how far they can go, and see who ultimately comes out on top. I believe in Dragon Ball Online, the last time the two are seen is when they fly off to space to have their last battle where no bystanders can be hurt. I think that's a fitting end for them.
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by miguelnuva1 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:13 pm
ZeroNeonix wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:48 pm
Slangh wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:10 pm
Ah, the glory of two glowing old guys beating each other up. Not that interesting since Vegeta officially became a 'good guy', yet modern DB insists on hyping it up.
It's not about the stakes. For Goku and Vegeta, it's a test to see how far they can go, and see who ultimately comes out on top. I believe in Dragon Ball Online, the last time the two are seen is when they fly off to space to have their last battle where no bystanders can be hurt. I think that's a fitting end for them.
Agreed. Its like Yugi vs Atem, there wasn't really a lot of stakes but you were waiting for it.
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by EGonzo » Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:29 am
miguelnuva1 wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:13 pm
ZeroNeonix wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:48 pm
Slangh wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:10 pm
Ah, the glory of two glowing old guys beating each other up. Not that interesting since Vegeta officially became a 'good guy', yet modern DB insists on hyping it up.
It's not about the stakes. For Goku and Vegeta, it's a test to see how far they can go, and see who ultimately comes out on top. I believe in Dragon Ball Online, the last time the two are seen is when they fly off to space to have their last battle where no bystanders can be hurt. I think that's a fitting end for them.
Agreed. Its like Yugi vs Atem, there wasn't really a lot of stakes but you were waiting for it.
Huh, I really hadn't thought about them that way. Very good analogy
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by Slangh » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:55 am
ZeroNeonix wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:48 pm
Slangh wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:10 pm
Ah, the glory of two glowing old guys beating each other up. Not that interesting since Vegeta officially became a 'good guy', yet modern DB insists on hyping it up.
It's not about the stakes. For Goku and Vegeta, it's a test to see how far they can go, and see who ultimately comes out on top. I believe in Dragon Ball Online, the last time the two are seen is when they fly off to space to have their last battle where no bystanders can be hurt. I think that's a fitting end for them.
Well... good for Goku and Vegeta and I am aware of the DBO storyline. It's just not that interesting to me, nor is the dynamic between Goku and Vegeta since they came friends. DB fights are great when they DO have stakes and tie into a story, otherwise it's just glowing guys punching each other, which on its own is not that great to watch. Even a 'climactic' battle in space means nothing compared to the drama of the Saiyan saga fight and even the Majin Vegeta story arc.
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by JewyB » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:04 pm
Slangh wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:55 am
Well... good for Goku and Vegeta and I am aware of the DBO storyline. It's just not that interesting to me, nor is the dynamic between Goku and Vegeta since they came friends. DB fights are great when they DO have stakes and tie into a story, otherwise it's just glowing guys punching each other, which on its own is not that great to watch. Even a 'climactic' battle in space means nothing compared to the drama of the Saiyan saga fight and even the Majin Vegeta story arc.
Counterpoint: Most of the tournaments had no stakes and had some of the best fights in DB.
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by FoolsGil » Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:30 pm
Having this special from Pan's POV was definitely the right call.
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by FlpShimizu » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:51 pm
Never thought I´d say this, but this special is a breath of fresh air away from that Bra crap they´ve been shoving down our throats.
"I'm never fighting a gag manga character again!"
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by Jackalope89 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:42 pm
FlpShimizu wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:51 pm
Never thought I´d say this, but this special is a breath of fresh air away from that Bra crap they´ve been shoving down our throats.
Art aside, it is a palate cleanser.
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by Jack Bz » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:59 pm
It's a breath of fresh air to actually have a degree of focus on the original universe for a change. I've been waiting for Goku to be relevant to the story in any way for years.
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by Matches Malone » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:30 pm
When the tournament goes back to normal, whenever that will be, it seems like the final match will be between Goku and Vegeta. I really hope they bring their A+ artists for this, as it's been a long time coming.
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by TobyS » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:14 pm
I think it's inherently stupid the implication vegeta could surpass Gohan literally or functionally and that he's an equal to Goku. They are canon characters who get screen time in canon this grand multiverse thing ending with just wanted Goku versus wanked vegeta sucks....
So this special feels like build up to something I don't want.
At least the Bra stuff was original...
All the organisers are dead and the control tower blew up so there's real stakes even if the rest make it back, and now it's a second long wait till it continues. Bleh.
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by miguelnuva1 » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:31 am
Goku vs XXI is most likely the finals.
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by FlpShimizu » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:48 pm
I'm really enjoying this
"I'm never fighting a gag manga character again!"
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by goku1234 » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:56 pm