Trachta10 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:24 am
Ajay wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:28 pm
Trachta10 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:58 amFrom what I understand, many photographers take pictures in JPEG format because the difference with a RAW file is almost undetectable (same with a image scanner), but the truth is there is a vast difference in the amount of information retained in a RAW file compared to a JPEG, so if you just shot in JPEG, which is a “loss” file format, much of the initial image information and detail is discarded and cannot be recovered.
You can just shot in JPEG, or shot in RAW,
edit it, and then convert it to a JPEG, is not the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_image_format
https://www.slrlounge.com/workshop/dyna ... w-vs-jpeg/
Dude, I know what raw photography is. I'm saying that Funi using PNGs on their website has absolutely zero indication of what they do and don't have. It's just standard practise to use compressed images online. The company were never going to upload anything but that because browsers don't support it. Of course their raw scans will be in adequately lossless formats. To suggest they didn't scan their reels in an adequate format, let alone JPG, is one of the weirdest posts in this thread so far, especially trying to attribute the Level Sets' black levels to it. Like... what? That's not how any of this works.
Well, when you said RAW isn´t a format and wikipedia literally says "Raw image format" I assumed you didn't know what it was.
I am just saying that it is very common that people do not use the RAW format, because it is simply not necessary, and JPEG is cheaper and faster for a company.
if you work with RAW format, you will never have crushed blacks like in the Level Sets, because when you have that RAW file you can edit it easily, denoise it, brighten darks, etc, and then convert it to a JPEG, if you work directly with a JPEG all those edits are impossible, you will have very poor results, and I think that's why also the 30th anniversary has all this problems, they are not working with RAW files
When they did Kai, you can realize, the denosie was done much better, dark areas look much better,
that's because they probably had more budget and time, and could work with the files in RAW
Crushed blacks is a result of their older film prints, not them using a damn
JPEG file format for a professional remaster. Do you realize how artifact-ridden the masters would be if they were actually in the same format as the images FUNi posted on their blog?
As we keep telling you, FUNi shared compressed JPEGs because they're easier to load and browsers actually support them - it is absolutely no indication that they actually used a jpeg format for their remaster, and it is in an utterly ridiculous proposition.
Poor remastering and color correction isn't a release solely caused by the file fomat, dawg. Poorly applied DVNR and color correction will hurt images in even the highest quality format - it's not a shield from bad hands. Look no further than Toei's remastered movie releases, which were blasted with DVNR.
I mean seriously, just tell me: what companies do you know actually used a JPG format for a remaster, and how in the hell would that be cost effective? I'm probably coming off as rude but I just can't believe what you're saying.
The Dragon Box had crushed blacks too, especially the movies - were those jpegs, too? Hell I'm watching a Goodfellas remaster on Amazon that's chock full of crushed blacks (and I'm not talking about Samuel L. Jackson after the botched robbery, either). Guess that was a JPEG, too! We all know Warner Bros. is hard-up for cash.
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