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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Psajdak » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:01 pm

I think Kozo Shioya (known for voicing fat characters) did an amazing job voicing Buu, including Kid Buu who had rather monkey-like characteristics.

That being said, it did felt like a degradation, considering how Buu with Piccolo absorbed, and speaking eloquently compared to his previous self felt like a true final stage.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 90sDBZ » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:54 pm

I've always liked Kid Buu myself. After getting arrogantly intelligent villains like Cell and Frieza it's refreshing to have one that's batshit insane.

It's weirdly satisfying to see him immediately blow up the Earth with no hesitation, after every previous villain made the classic Bond-villain mistake of dragging things out.

He has some genuinely funny moments, like when he bites Goku only to get bitten back. And when Fat Buu misses with his candy beam sending jawbreakers everywhere mid-fight, followed by Kid Buu grabbing them and stuffing them in his mouth. It's gets even funnier because you see Mr Satan doing them same while rooting for Fat Buu.

It's hard for me to rank the Buu's. Fat Buu was a great mixture of funny and menacing. Super Buu started out really creepy and intimidating. He was one of the most menacing villains ever. That made it even more funny that he ultimately had just as much of a sweet tooth as his predecessor. His battle with Gotenks had some hilarious moments, like when they thoughtlessly head-butt each other and end up with a throbbing headache.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Yuji » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:00 pm

Out of all of the Super Boo variants, Gotenks Boo is probably my favorite. The fusion jacket suits him and he was the lesser fool out of the Boos, even including the more powerful Gohan Boo.

I think Kid Boo is likely my favorite out of all the Boo forms, however, since he's a refreshing change of pace and his battle with Goku is one of the best in the arc. He also has some of the most memorable mannerisms.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by precita » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:29 pm

A lot of people claim Boo is too one-dimensional (meaning all of them), and while it's true to an extent, I really do like how the final DBZ villain was just a pure evil insane maniac. He really came across as devilish at some points especially Super Boo with the human extinction act and Kid Boo, and there's so many funny/silly moments with Boo's forms during the fights with Gotenks and Goku you can't help but love it.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by PurestEvil » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:48 pm

precita wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:29 pm A lot of people claim Boo is too one-dimensional (meaning all of them), and while it's true to an extent, I really do like how the final DBZ villain was just a pure evil insane maniac. He really came across as devilish at some points especially Super Boo with the human extinction act and Kid Boo, and there's so many funny/silly moments with Boo's forms during the fights with Gotenks and Goku you can't help but love it.
I liked Fat Buu and Super Buu myself. They were devilish in their own twisted ways. I found Kid Buu, however, to be very irritating, mainly because of his damn voice. But I don't think Buu was a bad villain overall.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by WittyUsername » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:54 pm

I was never under the impression that Kid Boo is disliked. I always considered him an improvement over Super Boo, who had become little more than a Freeza/Perfect Cell knockoff after he started absorbing people.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by PurestEvil » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:55 am

WittyUsername wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:54 pm I was never under the impression that Kid Boo is disliked. I always considered him an improvement over Super Boo, who had become little more than a Freeza/Perfect Cell knockoff after he started absorbing people.
I suppose that is why it is an "unpopular opinion" :D
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jord » Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:17 am

Psajdak wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:01 pm I think Kozo Shioya (known for voicing fat characters) did an amazing job voicing Buu, including Kid Buu who had rather monkey-like characteristics.

That being said, it did felt like a degradation, considering how Buu with Piccolo absorbed, and speaking eloquently compared to his previous self felt like a true final stage.
I'd say he is one of the most underrated Dragon ball voice actors. It's amazing how he bends his voice to voice 4 completely different versions of a character who all sound unique in their own way but sound 'related' to the other versions due to the vocal performance. I really, really enjoy his performances in the Buu saga.

It's also a shame how Buu got sidelined so heavily in Super, considering the diversity of the character, his attacks and the strength he has. Passing him by for Tenshinhan, Roshi, Kuririn , 17 and 18 in the ToP is complete joke.

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Post by PurestEvil » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:49 am

Jord wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:17 am I'd say he is one of the most underrated Dragon ball voice actors. It's amazing how he bends his voice to voice 4 completely different versions of a character who all sound unique in their own way but sound 'related' to the other versions due to the vocal performance. I really, really enjoy his performances in the Buu saga.
I really enjoyed his fat/naive buu voice. It's the biggest reason why I enjoyed it the most.
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Post by Jord » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:01 am

PurestEvil wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:49 am
Jord wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:17 am I'd say he is one of the most underrated Dragon ball voice actors. It's amazing how he bends his voice to voice 4 completely different versions of a character who all sound unique in their own way but sound 'related' to the other versions due to the vocal performance. I really, really enjoy his performances in the Buu saga.
I really enjoyed his fat/naive buu voice. It's the biggest reason why I enjoyed it the most.
I do too. It brings a certain joy to me. Plus you hit the nail on the head by calling him naïve instead of plain stupid which is a common misconception.

Conversely, I really, REALLY dislike the screechy dub voice that makes him sound both childish as well as extremely annoying. It feels so...forced.

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Post by PurestEvil » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:26 am

I mean, he is referred to as the "naive Buu" when when he fought his grey "evil" self
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by WittyUsername » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:22 pm

Jord wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:17 am
Psajdak wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:01 pm I think Kozo Shioya (known for voicing fat characters) did an amazing job voicing Buu, including Kid Buu who had rather monkey-like characteristics.

That being said, it did felt like a degradation, considering how Buu with Piccolo absorbed, and speaking eloquently compared to his previous self felt like a true final stage.
I'd say he is one of the most underrated Dragon ball voice actors. It's amazing how he bends his voice to voice 4 completely different versions of a character who all sound unique in their own way but sound 'related' to the other versions due to the vocal performance. I really, really enjoy his performances in the Buu saga.

It's also a shame how Buu got sidelined so heavily in Super, considering the diversity of the character, his attacks and the strength he has. Passing him by for Tenshinhan, Roshi, Kuririn , 17 and 18 in the ToP is complete joke.
They wrote him out as an excuse to bring back Freeza.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Noah » Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:04 pm

Don't know how unpopular this is but Jump 2008 Special is pretty lame, I mean it was cool to have something animated from DB after I don't know, 12 years? But still kinda of a lackluster. I like the irony of villains that came in the time they're are no longer a threat to the main cast, but to have Vegeta's brother hold no relevance to the plot and its ugly design (midget Gohan in a Saiyan armor), Gotenks to be overshadowed by Goku just because the show can't ignore the main character card is just meh...


Also why ABED was banned? Sure the guy is kinda pain in the ass while discussing stuff, but still he never seemed the type that would be banned here for me.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by SuperSaiyaManZ94 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:42 pm

Noah wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:04 pm Don't know ho unpopular this is but Jump 2008 Special is pretty lame, I mean it was cool to have something animated from DB after I don't know, 12 years? But still kinda of a lackluster. I like the irony of villains that came in the time they're are no longer a threat to the main cast, but to have Vegeta's brother hold no relevance to the plot and its ugly design (midget Gohan in a Saiyan armor), Gotenks to be overshadowed by Goku just because the show can't ignore the main character card is just meh...


Also why ABED was banned? Sure the guy is kinda pain in the ass while discussing stuff, but still he never seemed the type that would be banned here for me.
Who knows, albeit he's only been temporarily banned and not permanently. His posts of late to my eyes haven't really come across as such. It's anyone's guess as to what reason.

As for the JSAT special, true it did leave a good deal to be desired in those ways and given it had the distinction at the time of being the first new animated Dragon Ball production to be released since GT ended in late 1997 just over a decade earlier.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Matches Malone » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:40 pm

Noah wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:04 pm Don't know ho unpopular this is but Jump 2008 Special is pretty lame, I mean it was cool to have something animated from DB after I don't know, 12 years? But still kinda of a lackluster. I like the irony of villains that came in the time they're are no longer a threat to the main cast, but to have Vegeta's brother hold no relevance to the plot and its ugly design (midget Gohan in a Saiyan armor), Gotenks to be overshadowed by Goku just because the show can't ignore the main character card is just meh...
It was definitely lackluster. My biggest issue with it is having such a massive plot point, Vegeta having a brother, only to do absolutely nothing with it. Goku getting the win at the end was very forced and screamed "He's the main character", they should've just let Gotenks win. One thing I love about it is the art style, I wish they kept it in what came after. I also really liked the updated Cha-la opening scene.

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Post by SuperSaiyaManZ94 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:47 pm

Matches Malone wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:40 pm
Noah wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:04 pm Don't know ho unpopular this is but Jump 2008 Special is pretty lame, I mean it was cool to have something animated from DB after I don't know, 12 years? But still kinda of a lackluster. I like the irony of villains that came in the time they're are no longer a threat to the main cast, but to have Vegeta's brother hold no relevance to the plot and its ugly design (midget Gohan in a Saiyan armor), Gotenks to be overshadowed by Goku just because the show can't ignore the main character card is just meh...
It was definitely lackluster. My biggest issue with it is having such a massive plot point, Vegeta having a brother, only to do absolutely nothing with it. Goku getting the win at the end was very forced and screamed "He's the main character", they should've just let Gotenks win. One thing I love about it is the art style, I wish they kept it in what came after. I also really liked the updated Cha-la opening scene.
I mean, i get that Goku is the main character of the series and all but would it have really killed them to have someone else score the win for a change?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Matches Malone » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:20 am

SuperSaiyaManZ94 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:47 pmI mean, i get that Goku is the main character of the series and all but would it have really killed them to have someone else score the win for a change?
What makes it worse was the fact that both the story and villain weren't taken seriously at all, so why go through the trouble of having Goku win ? The story and villain were set up perfectly for Gotenks.

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Post by Grimlock » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:07 am

Some complain about those who go to Dragon Ball Super threads and ask that someone else other than Goku to defeat/kill main villain, but right here we find people wanting someone else other than Goku to defeat/kill the main villain in an OVA that would undoubtedly and obviously play safe? :eh:

You should be asking this from the so-called "main series" not from an OVA made for celebration.

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Post by Matches Malone » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:50 am

Grimlock wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:07 amYou should be asking this from the so-called "main series" not from an OVA made for celebration.
We can't get the main series to change Goku and Vegeta's clothes, let's try to get that first before asking for a main character switch.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by PurestEvil » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:19 am

If people don't mind, I do have one more unpopular opinion I would like to share:
I LOVED Ribrianne while watching the ToP.
Okay, yeah, she does hog a lot of screen time which could have been used for other characters (ie Krillin and Ten). In spite of this, I loved how her trio was pretty much taking the piss out of the Shojo fantasy girl stories like Sailor Moon or Fairy Tail. From her +size appearance to her awkwardly long transformation scenes, and even that moment where she chastises A18 for being married to a midget. However, I do agree that this novelty does wear off because of her excessive prominence, I just don't think she deserves to be hated on as much as most fans do.
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