"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[GodVegetto91]

This reminds me a lot of Baby from GT... Getting some weird Tuffle survivor Baby arc vibes here guys..

[OrangeBanana]

I don't think its 73 I think Moro is still alive or some part of him has been transferred to 73, creating a new personality which is a mix of Moro and 73.

But Moro’s name isn’t Granola...

Is Granola gonna be the new villain? The name of the arc doesn't seem to state that. Plus they're making a key point of 73 returning.
EDIT: Plus Yunba makes the point of checking to see if Moro/73 was actually dead (atleast according to the translations), if that's not hinting at his return or something then I don't know.

[Gt91]

Mmm Granola... i don't think he's a sayan (no black hair), maybe a new race? Or someone from another universe? It's too soon to say something logical xD

[danyq94]

I believe that Granola is the time traveler of the 12th universe, mentioned in the Zamasu arc.

[SupremeKai25]

I believe that Granola is the time traveler of the 12th universe, mentioned in the Zamasu arc.

Wasn't it said that his time machine was taken by the U12's Supreme Kai and then stolen by Zamasu when he purged all the Gods? Then how can this "Granola" time travel?

[Gt91]

In b4, future trunk's son from a new timeline xD.
Really, he can be everything. A new race, another angel ecc.

[DevilKing99]

Like I thought another random U7 villain nobody heard about once.

[GodVegetto91]

Maybe Granola is the parasitic being responsible for making Moro evil who was originally just a random being. And now he found a new host, 73’s body!

Dunno.. Just a theory guys lol

Just like Baby tuffle.

[GodVegetto91]

Like I thought another random U7 villain nobody heard about once.

I know right.. I would have prefered a Demon Realm Arc, involving Demons/Evil Angels, or a Super Shadow Dragon Arc.

[Jiren The Alpha]

Like I thought another random U7 villain nobody heard about once.

That would not be a problem if it was Toriyama writing that villian, but we don't know yet if hes the villain or not.

[SupremeKai25]

I'll reserve my judgement, there's not enough info to formulate a concrete theory.

Suffice to say that if that guy at the end of the teaser is Granola, then he 100% won't be the main villain. He just doesn't have the design of a main villain. He could be a secret ally of the protagonists or just a sidekick/grunt of the REAL main villain.

[Alruneia]

This is... interesting... or, well, it might be. There's not much to work with here. To be clear, Granola is the guy flying that spaceship, and he's talking to somebody named something like "Oatmil". I think the little conversation goes something like
Granola: It's that ship, no doubt about it, right Oatmil?
Oatmil: It is. Be careful, Granola.

Also, Granola's name is gonna be messy for the English-speaking audience, I just know it. グラノラ does directly get transliterated to "granola", but it's not pronounced like the actual word "granola", because the that's written as グラノーラ. (The pun is that the ー has been omitted. That goes for Oatmil's name as well.) The o is different, so instead of it being gra-noh-la, it's like... gran-ola or something. I don't know how to describe it properly. I know it's gonna trip people up, though.

Oh, and I almost forgot: Whatever's happening to 73's head in this teaser is going to be a risky move. If we're doing some kind of reverse Big Gete Star (Meta-Cooler) thing, that could easily end up terrible. But we'll have to see what happens first.

[precita]

I'm getting GT vibes here and I don't know why. Something is starting to not feel right, like Toriyama isn't as involved anymore. I don't know what it is.

[Lord Beerus]

All I want is for Super to move past EOZ. I just feel Super is really limiting itself from a creative storytelling standpoint from having the characters frozen in time.

[DevilKing99]

I'll reserve my judgement, there's not enough info to formulate a concrete theory.

Suffice to say that if that guy at the end of the teaser is Granola, then he 100% won't be the main villain. He just doesn't have the design of a main villain. He could be a secret ally of the protagonists or just a sidekick/grunt of the REAL main villain.

The fact he does not look like a main villain means he is one.

I remember everybody saying Beerus and Whis look pathetic and weak when they first appeared.

My problem with him is he's a random U7 villain that nobody heard about before once. And it's not like this is something that can be fixed, the name Granola wasn't mentioned once before this point.

[Lord Frieza]

Well let’s not forget that the arc the focused on Black and Zamasu was called the Future Trunks arc.

Hell most of Super’s arcs are oddly named. The Champa arc doesn’t involve any actual conflict with Champa himself. The Universe Survival Arc is just an odd name even if it is technically right and even Moro’s arc is called the Galactic Prisoner arc.

I’m thinking, based on what little we know, that Granola is a main character not the villain and that maybe Moro or Seven-Three survived.

[emperior]

Not gonna lie, this sounds incredibly underwhelming.
I would rather it be a small fillerish arc but it won’t be.

I am very disappointed right now. I was happy for this arc to be over, and now it seems like the following arc is immediately connected to it leaving no room to breathe.

It’s also clear, at this point, that they have no intention of ever going through the end of the original manga even though this arc had so many teases.

Hopefully it will be better than it sounds.

[SupremeKai25]

I'll reserve my judgement, there's not enough info to formulate a concrete theory.

Suffice to say that if that guy at the end of the teaser is Granola, then he 100% won't be the main villain. He just doesn't have the design of a main villain. He could be a secret ally of the protagonists or just a sidekick/grunt of the REAL main villain.

The fact he does not look like a main villain means he is one.

I remember everybody saying Beerus and Whis look pathetic and weak when they first appeared.

My problem with him is he's a random U7 villain that nobody heard about before once.

I'll have to hard disagree with that. When you look at the past villains of Super, it was clear they were going to be the main antagonist:





And, huh, I couldn't find any good image of Moro, but regardless you get my point. The main villain usually has a distinguishable and unique design.

Like, who the hell looks at Goku Black and thinks "Hm, this might be just a mere underling"

That guy, looking from behind, doesn't seem special at all, which leads me to believe he might be a mere underling.

[Matches Malone]

There's not much to work with, but I'm not really happy about the possibility of 7-3 potentially being involved in this. The Moro arc was dragged out as is, there's no reason to have it extend into the next arc. Also, based on how up and down the Moro arc was, I recommend everyone keep their expectations low.

Who the hell looks at Goku Black and thinks "Hm, this might be just a mere underling"

When we got the poster I thought he'd be some nobody training under Mr.Satan who just looked like Goku.

I can't help but think Zamasu would be severely offended seeing a picture of himself with a Santa hat.

Something is starting to not feel right, like Toriyama isn't as involved anymore. I don't know what it is.

It'll be no different from everything else in modern DB post BOG, Toriyama just giving his seal of approval to what other writers want, rather than him being the one behind it.

[DevilKing99]

I'll reserve my judgement, there's not enough info to formulate a concrete theory.

Suffice to say that if that guy at the end of the teaser is Granola, then he 100% won't be the main villain. He just doesn't have the design of a main villain. He could be a secret ally of the protagonists or just a sidekick/grunt of the REAL main villain.

The fact he does not look like a main villain means he is one.

I remember everybody saying Beerus and Whis look pathetic and weak when they first appeared.

My problem with him is he's a random U7 villain that nobody heard about before once.

I'll have to hard disagree with that. When you look at the past villains of Super, it was clear they were going to be the main antagonist:





And, huh, I couldn't find any good image of Moro, but regardless you get my point. The main villain usually has a distinguishable and unique design.

Like, who the hell looks at Goku Black and thinks "Hm, this might be just a mere underling"

That guy, looking from behind, doesn't seem special at all, which leads me to believe he might be a mere underling.

Merged Zamasu 1000% looks like the main villain.

Zamasu himself looks like a hero, especially since very kai in the series has been a hero who tries help people out, which makes perfect sense since Zamasu is a fallen Kai.

Oh well, I'm sure Black/Zamasu will still the best villain in the series, Granloa like I said before is another random U7 foe like Moro who we will most likely will find nothing about.

Moro was in U7 for 2+ Months and didn't even gain any interaction with Beerus, Freeza, Broly, Piccolo and Shin. Moro and Beerus were right next to each other didn't say anything to each other.

Not to Mention Piccolo didn't get interact with Moro once despite Moro Killing his People.

Hell if Broly is allowed to ass pull himself from a power level of like 100,000 to SSB Gogeta level in barely an hour with zero prior fighting experience, why can't Piccolo get a boost in arc about a villain who killed the entire namekian race?